Biden mishandles classified documents

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Dorian2

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DIY-HP-LED said:
I expressed a POV, but our rhetoric and choice of terms can reveal a lot about the news sources we choose in some instances, if those sources are out of line with the general journalist consensus, or especially if they have a known and consistent bias, most often to the extreme right. It is not so much a POV on their part as propaganda. News serves the consumer and provides truth and facts, propaganda serves those who create it and there are many tricks to the trade.

The news we choose says a lot about our POV and character too, because many choose to listen to transparent lies, told by a well known serial liar and ignore the plain truth.
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Thats fair. Just realize that by relating your overall POV regarding News sources and propaganda to a specific post, it tends to inherently associate that poster with what you're relating to in a more general sense. This very post of mine is a good example. I'm saying this specifically to your response, but it also applies to this thread. Just because somebody observes simple media bias in one form of media doesn't mean that the bias seen is equivalent to other media/news outlets. If I say I see bias on CNN or CBC, does it mean that I'm somehow justifying the propagandist rhetoric associated with an outfit like Fox? If it does, it's a bit insulting to be honest. And I'm not saying you've insulted me in anyway.
 
Fogdog

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Dorian2 said:
Thats fair. Just realize that by relating your overall POV regarding News sources and propaganda to a specific post, it tends to inherently associate that poster with what you're relating to in a more general sense. This very post of mine is a good example. I'm saying this specifically to your response, but it also applies to this thread. Just because somebody observes simple media bias in one form of media doesn't mean that the bias seen is equivalent to other media/news outlets. If I say I see bias on CNN or CBC, does it mean that I'm somehow justifying the propagandist rhetoric associated with an outfit like Fox? If it does, it's a bit insulting to be honest. And I'm not saying you've insulted me in anyway.
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It's all about you, isn't it?

Actually, it's not. Your tiny view of the world or as you call it, POV is not particularly useful given the wealth of unbiased information available from facts based new reports. I realize that to many, facts have a liberal bias but in reality, the bias comes from small minded people who value their POV over facts.
 
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Fogdog

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Skillcraft said:
Well I am the one that started this thread and I hate to tell you but I may be a dumbass but I am not a republican. Funny how we are just supposed to say that it was a clerical error that Biden had classified documents in three places. Sorry but I don't buy it. My question is why did he even have them at his house and office to begin with? But we should all rest easy they were in a locked garage next to his Corvette.
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Yes, you started this therad and I agree with your assessment of yourself. Which is why you have got it wrong. The attention and emotion dumbasses have poured into the finding of a few classified documents among Biden's archives is about politics and not anything significant in world or US national events.

Biden's handling of the economy, social issues, international issues and his spot on characterization of MAGA Republicans as fascist has been capable, smart and good for the vast majority of the people of the US and the world. But fascists don't really care about issues or the well being of others, they just care about power and suppressing people who don't match their ideals. And so, they are blowing this situation all out of proportion. Like any dumbass would do.
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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Since we are comparing Biden and Trump's documents cases, how about some breaking news about Donald screwing himself on social media again and some expert legal commentary on Donald's latest panic induced brain fart.


BREAKING: Trump accidentally SCREWS himself with his OWN post

The Legal Breakdown episode 17: @GlennKirschner2 joins to discuss Trump's posts trying to explain away his stolen documents from Mar-a-Lago and equate himself with Joe Biden.
 
Herb & Suds

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DIY-HP-LED said:
Since we are comparing Biden and Trump's documents cases, how about some breaking news about Donald screwing himself on social media again and some expert legal commentary on Donald's latest panic induced brain fart.


BREAKING: Trump accidentally SCREWS himself with his OWN post

The Legal Breakdown episode 17: @GlennKirschner2 joins to discuss Trump's posts trying to explain away his stolen documents from Mar-a-Lago and equate himself with Joe Biden.
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Yeah
I save junk mail just for the fun of it
But I’m no hoarder no matter who says otherwise
 
Wattzzup

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Biden is doing great the economy couldn’t be any better.

Every time we have a Republican president it takes a few years to dig out of the hole they made. It’s an uphill battle. The only reason gas prices were cheap under Trump was because of Covid and the demand was so low. Frankly only a moron would think otherwise

There’s a great thread here called “another Republican president, another recession”
 
Fogdog

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Wattzzup said:
Biden is doing great the economy couldn’t be any better.

Every time we have a Republican president it takes a few years to dig out of the hole they made. It’s an uphill battle. The only reason gas prices were cheap under Trump was because of Covid and the demand was so low. Frankly only a moron would think otherwise

There’s a great thread here called “another Republican president, another recession”
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True that.

Every issue in the US economy that Republicans complain about today began in Trump's term.
 
PadawanWarrior

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cannabineer said:
I think you’re remembering That Man’s $1.9T tax cut to the rich.
Still no links; only insults.
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I'm not insulting anyone. I honestly think Biden is the worst president in history that I know of. I hated Hillary, but she looks like an Saint now, :lol:. I just don't understand how some of you guys can honestly think he's doing a good job.
 
Fogdog

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PadawanWarrior said:
I'm not insulting anyone. I honestly think Biden is the worst president in history that I know of. I hated Hillary, but she looks like an Saint now, :lol:. I just don't understand how some of you guys can honestly think he's doing a good job.
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I believe you when you say that you believe Biden is "the worst president in History". What value do your beliefs have? For example, looking at your complaint of energy independence, what you believe about Biden is false. The US is still "energy independent". Also, Biden did not "go after the fossil fuel industry". He simply asks that industry to start using the thousands of unused permits already granted to them instead of granting permits in environmentally sensitive areas or other public lands. Also cancelled an unpopular and environmentally destructive pipeline did not affect the US's energy security one bit.

But also "in US history"? Worse than Herbert Hoover? Get a grip.
 
Herb & Suds

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PadawanWarrior said:
I'm not insulting anyone. I honestly think Biden is the worst president in history that I know of. I hated Hillary, but she looks like an Saint now, :lol:. I just don't understand how some of you guys can honestly think he's doing a good job.
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No offense but I can’t understand how any American can not see Donald was the worst President in our history
 
cannabineer

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PadawanWarrior said:
I'm not insulting anyone. I honestly think Biden is the worst president in history that I know of. I hated Hillary, but she looks like an Saint now, :lol:. I just don't understand how some of you guys can honestly think he's doing a good job.
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“honestly think” is not the same as suggesting we have our heads checked. Seriously, if you “honestly think” nonsense, I suggest you teach yourself the basics of critical thought. Online courses exist.
In simplest terms, the most cursory search of the facts of the matter does not support what you are saying. Disbelief without backing is a pretty serious self-imposed handicap.
 
cannabineer

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Fogdog said:
I believe you when you say that you believe Biden is "the worst president in History". What value do your beliefs have? For example, looking at your complaint of energy independence, what you believe about Biden is false. The US is still "energy independent". Also, Biden did not "go after the fossil fuel industry". He simply asks that industry to start using the thousands of unused permits already granted to them instead of granting permits in environmentally sensitive areas or other public lands. Also cancelled an unpopular and environmentally destructive pipeline did not affect the US's energy security one bit.

But also "in US history"? Worse than Herbert Hoover? Get a grip.
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There is a reason Hoover is a synonym for something that sucks, in millions of households.
 
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