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agare$969

agare$969

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Hey all I was hoping I could get some insight as to why these girls are looking droopy especially the middle one. They were all planted on 1/6 and are all the same strain. (Raspberry Sunshine x banana og). A good friend of mine saw my first grow and was kind enough to come off 4 3 packs of some of his own strains and when I initially saw this middle one he thought it was too cold in the grow room and it was. Since then about a week ago or so I got the temp on point and I upped my ppm in what I've been feeding according to some other folks. I'm using a coco perlite mix 70/30. I was only just introduced dyna gro, grow nute last week and added some cal mag yesterday as they started looking a little brighter. My question is, am watering too much (not necessarily overwatering) but I'm not letting the coco dry out enough before watering again therefore leaving a compounding effect that sort of resembles root issues. Am I getting enough oxygen to my roots? Any info would be super helpful. Ppm is 300, pH is 6.0-6.1 Hand watering 3 times a day based off of another's suggestion. Thanks!
 

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John Rollwan

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agare$969 said:
Hey all I was hoping I could get some insight as to why these girls are looking droopy especially the middle one. They were all planted on 1/6 and are all the same strain. (Raspberry Sunshine x banana og). A good friend of mine saw my first grow and was kind enough to come off 4 3 packs of some of his own strains and when I initially saw this middle one he thought it was too cold in the grow room and it was. Since then about a week ago or so I got the temp on point and I upped my ppm in what I've been feeding according to some other folks. I'm using a coco perlite mix 70/30. I was only just introduced dyna gro, grow nute last week and added some cal mag yesterday as they started looking a little brighter. My question is, am watering too much (not necessarily overwatering) but I'm not letting the coco dry out enough before watering again therefore leaving a compounding effect that sort of resembles root issues. Am I getting enough oxygen to my roots? Any info would be super helpful. Ppm is 300, pH is 6.0-6.1 Hand watering 3 times a day based off of another's suggestion. Thanks!
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You’re way over watering your plants at 3x a day in early vegetation with container soil imo. Just my opinion though. I let it get pretty dry before I water again to encourage root growth and extension. Even light amounts outside of flowering applied repeatedly into container soil will harm your plant. They recover okay in early veg. It can be a week lost in late veg/early flower. I’d let them dry out and watch them perk up. Under watering early on is much safer than over watering in any case. I water these little guys every 3rd day about the same PPM and RH. Sometimes will wait to a 4th. They’re all about 1.5 month old photos from seed in veg.
 

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John Rollwan said:
You’re way over watering your plants at 3x a day in early vegetation with container soil imo. Just my opinion though. I let it get pretty dry before I water again to encourage root growth and extension. Even light amounts outside of flowering applied repeatedly into container soil will harm your plant. They recover okay in early veg. It can be a week lost in late veg/early flower. I’d let them dry out and watch them perk up. Under watering early on is much safer than over watering in any case. I water these little guys every 3rd day about the same PPM and RH. Sometimes will wait to a 4th. They’re all about 1.5 month old photos from seed in veg.
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.... He's not in soil....
 
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John Rollwan said:
You’re way over watering your plants at 3x a day in early vegetation with container soil imo. Just my opinion though. I let it get pretty dry before I water again to encourage root growth and extension. Even light amounts outside of flowering applied repeatedly into container soil will harm your plant. They recover okay in early veg. It can be a week lost in late veg/early flower. I’d let them dry out and watch them perk up. Under watering early on is much safer than over watering in any case. I water these little guys every 3rd day about the same PPM and RH. Sometimes will wait to a 4th. They’re all about 1.5 month old photos from seed in veg.
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Reading is fundamental
 
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agare$969 said:
Hey all I was hoping I could get some insight as to why these girls are looking droopy especially the middle one. They were all planted on 1/6 and are all the same strain. (Raspberry Sunshine x banana og). A good friend of mine saw my first grow and was kind enough to come off 4 3 packs of some of his own strains and when I initially saw this middle one he thought it was too cold in the grow room and it was. Since then about a week ago or so I got the temp on point and I upped my ppm in what I've been feeding according to some other folks. I'm using a coco perlite mix 70/30. I was only just introduced dyna gro, grow nute last week and added some cal mag yesterday as they started looking a little brighter. My question is, am watering too much (not necessarily overwatering) but I'm not letting the coco dry out enough before watering again therefore leaving a compounding effect that sort of resembles root issues. Am I getting enough oxygen to my roots? Any info would be super helpful. Ppm is 300, pH is 6.0-6.1 Hand watering 3 times a day based off of another's suggestion. Thanks!
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Lift your light, feed once a day until run off. Give it a week they will turn around.
 
John Rollwan

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bk78 said:
OP disregard JonWan’s information

As you can see his plants are tiny for 6 weeks alive already, and he grows in soil which has absolutely nothing the same as coco.
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Awww honey it’s early and you’re grumpy again. Nope isn’t doing that trick I showed him at night anymore? I’ll come by this weekend *winks*

A they’re not small baby, they’re in holding under a T5 starter light on a 22/2, until there’s room for them to flower after my genetic masterpiece completes in 40-50 days. Sorry some of us still live in the land of jail time without unlimited space and freedom. It’s oppressive out here.
 
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John Rollwan said:
Awww honey it’s early and you’re grumpy again. Nope isn’t doing that trick I showed him at night anymore? I’ll come by this weekend *winks*

A they’re not small baby, they’re in holding under a T5 starter light on a 22/2, until there’s room for them to flower after my genetic masterpiece completes in 40-50 days. Sorry some of us still live in the land of jail time without unlimited space and freedom. It’s oppressive out here.
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Please stop derailing threads with awful information to new growers.
 
John Rollwan

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bk78 said:
Aka let coco dry out

lulz

I see your boyfriend has left the building since yesterday.

Please stick to giving soil growing advice where needed, not coco.
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I knew my babies would come correct my coconut mistake. Three heads are better than one. And now he has the correct answer. Without my comment you guys may have missed providing a valuable service. As long as we slow down the watering I think this threads a win for his babies.
 
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bk78 said:
Please stop derailing threads with awful information to new growers.
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I said container soil…but was otherwise 100% accurate. You offer the same advice with the word “coco” and you’re a genius. Let’s say he used the advice… extrapolate the result for me sweet heart?

You need more love in your life. That’s for sure. Maybe some Jesus.
 
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John Rollwan said:
I said container soil…but was otherwise 100% accurate. You offer the same advice with the word “coco” and you’re a genius. Let’s say he used the advice… extrapolate the result for me sweet heart?

You need more love in your life. That’s for sure. Maybe some Jesus.
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You shouldn't tell people to let their coco dry out like you did either, it will cause salt build up/hydrophobic areas of medium.
 
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A normal cat would just say “it’s coco, but yes you’re overwatering…” and then add their advice then the thread is complete I’d like it and we move on. You two wake up angry ready to GO
 
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Nope_49595933949 said:
You shouldn't tell people to let their coco dry out like you did either, it will cause salt build up/hydrophobic areas of medium.
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Apologies to the thread creator on this misread. An the toxic gang attack afterwards. Some people have no respect for others. Just wanna bully and attack. There’s still lots of nice humans around to interact with. And also feel free to offer stuff you find as a new grower that “old heads” like me may have missed. Thanks g
 
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MickFoster said:
6 weeks from seed sprout. Lol.
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You’re in a closed tent pressing LED’s for max growth vs. a starter T5 ballast with cooler temps to discourage rapid growth. Wish I had two flowering areas, but they’ll have to stay small and wait about 40-50 more days until current finishes in tent w/ the big light. They do love the extra time to root out and thicken that stalk. But hey we all gotta grow with what we got. Keep flexing though I’m sure you’ll learn a lot.
 
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