Social Media is not Real Life

Fogdog

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In college precalculus, we're prepping for a mid term,
students asked the prof can we use our programmable
calculators, prompting this response from him:
"In India math students don't have paper, let alone
calculators. They memorize formulas and equations in
their head, so they won't run out of paper. But yeah, you
can use your calculators this time."

Now, we've forgotten those simple formulas and equations.
We rely on calculators to supplement our memory lapses in
math, we rely on Word to supplement our memory lapses
in spelling/grammar, we rely on google to supplement our
memory lapses in ... memory. So we forget how to calculate
or spell, or write. Now ChatGPT will cause us to
give up exercising our memory of language and speaking or
writing. Devolved back to the cave by high technology.
I saw the textbook and homework assignments my nephew had as an undergrad in Mechanical Engineering. High level math is still taught and he is a pretty good student. It was taught to me too. If you don't use it, you will lose it, which it has for me, but the concepts are all still alive and well inside of me.

I don't know what ChatGPT is but I'm not afraid of the next generation's capacity to use prior knowledge and extend it for the future generations if we manage to produce them.
 

doughper

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Skeptical? No, it's pessimistic, tho I hate to admit that.

Oh, I have no particular link for it. I'm talking about what I've
seen in RIU, seen on TV, and a bit of skimming online. I just
heard somewhere that the current ChatGPT is 1 gen, and 2 gen's
around the corner, etc. Ppl like you, smart, critical thinking,
creative types, independent types, probably won't be affected,
at least as much. But how many...what percent of people have
the above-listed attributes?
 

BudmanTX

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Today on NPR teachers were talking about having to test for bot written reports. Really really bad. On the flip side I have been stuck in the research phase of my new book for months. Maybe AI will give me a kickstart. But I'm not ready to turn my idea over to the dark web yet.
when i first heard of ChatGPT, there was a professor doing the same........

what part of the research are you on? I just finished the Book of Judas....talk bout an eye opener
 

Fogdog

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Skeptical? No, it's pessimistic, tho I hate to admit that.

Oh, I have no particular link for it. I'm talking about what I've
seen in RIU, seen on TV, and a bit of skimming online. I just
heard somewhere that the current ChatGPT is 1 gen, and 2 gen's
around the corner, etc. Ppl like you, smart, critical thinking,
creative types, independent types, probably won't be affected,
at least as much. But how many...what percent of people have
the above-listed attributes?
How many apocalypses have been predicted and how many have we had?
 

Fogdog

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Thanks,

Did not make me any less skeptical that it's going to replace us. Our minds don't work like computers.

But an interesting tool, nonetheless. People are amazing at what they can do.
 

BudmanTX

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Thanks,

Did not make me any less skeptical that it's going to replace us. Our minds don't work like computers.

But an interesting tool, nonetheless. People are amazing at what they can do.
no prob....

i agree it is an interesting tool, but it's can be also a dangerous one as well imo....
 

Fogdog

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Beyond the universal aspects of fear and our survival response to it, certain personality traits may make individuals more susceptible to believing it's the end of the world. Social psychologist Karen Douglas at the University of Kent studies conspiracy theorists and suspects that her study subjects, in some cases, share attributes with those who believe in an impending apocalypse. She points out that, although these are essentially two different phenomena, certain apocalyptic beliefs are also at the heart of conspiracy theories—for example, the belief that government agencies know about an impending disaster and are intentionally hiding this fact to prevent panic.

"One trait I see linking the two is the feeling of powerlessness, often connected to a mistrust in authority," Douglas says. Among conspiracy theorists, these convictions of mistrust and impotence make their conspiracies more precious—and real. "People feel like they have knowledge that others do not."

Schlozman recently had an experience that eerily echoed Orson Welles's 1938 The War of the Worlds broadcast. He was discussing his book on a radio program and they had to cut the show short when listeners misconstrued his fiction for fact. He believes the propensity to panic is not constant in history but instead reflects the times. In today's complicated world with terrorism, war, fiscal cliffs and climate change, people are primed for panic.


It's easy to feel overwhelmed when there is so much going on. It is also true that human tech has gone beyond what any one person can understand. Fear is a rational response but its just a signal that something is happening that one should pay attention to. Maybe immediate flight is needed. Maybe it's a signal there is an opportunity to learn something.
 

injinji

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when i first heard of ChatGPT, there was a professor doing the same........

what part of the research are you on? I just finished the Book of Judas....talk bout an eye opener
I've got to get a basic understanding of the interplay between Gaius Vibius Pansa Caetronianus and his father in law Quintus Fufius Calenus. (and the travel required for them to return to Rome after JC gets his on 3/15/44bc) My Joseph was son in law of Pansa, and was in Rome for the birth of his oldest son (the one later called Nicodemus). I know how my story is going to go, I just don't know enough about the folks in the background. Mainly because I haven't really been putting in the hours needed.



 

BudmanTX

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I've got to get a basic understanding of the interplay between Gaius Vibius Pansa Caetronianus and his father in law Quintus Fufius Calenus. (and the travel required for them to return to Rome after JC gets his on 3/15/44bc) My Joseph was son in law of Pansa, and was in Rome for the birth of his oldest son (the one later called Nicodemus). I know how my story is going to go, I just don't know enough about the folks in the background. Mainly because I haven't really been putting in the hours needed.



ah going through the backgrounds can be difficult, simple cause of the research need of them i see......

i'm having the same problem with Judas..one side says he turned on Jesus, but when i read the book winds up he's actually his best friend, and also knows who Jesus is :shock: ....still go more research to do......
 

Fogdog

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I've got to get a basic understanding of the interplay between Gaius Vibius Pansa Caetronianus and his father in law Quintus Fufius Calenus. (and the travel required for them to return to Rome after JC gets his on 3/15/44bc) My Joseph was son in law of Pansa, and was in Rome for the birth of his oldest son (the one later called Nicodemus). I know how my story is going to go, I just don't know enough about the folks in the background. Mainly because I haven't really been putting in the hours needed.



Julius Cesare's story and its aftermath is a good case study of what happens when ten or twenty billionaires rule an empire country with fake elections and assassinations considered their prerogative to use in place of statecraft.
 
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