Social Media is not Real Life

[Fogdog]

This is oddly specific and I feel the need to ask, respectfully - was this revealed with the use of dimethyltryptamine?

That said, maybe DMT stimulates a transducer that enables perception of some dimension we can't see when we are just muggles. I'm not saying I believe that, just saying I'm open to the idea of it.

 

[Fogdog]

Big brain stuff, trying to understand Quantum and String theory is certainly above my level after devoting some time to it previously. The reason I asked about dimethyltryptamine is clinical studies are being done with it, and trying to keep an open mind about the infinite number of parallel universes, is it possible that substances such as dimethyltryptamine allow the brain to access/receive information that is not typically possible? Similar to the car accident victim being able to "see", obviously she got that information from somewhere. Was her brain able to receive information via a different frequency, not necessarily a parallel universe, but experiencing this universe differently than we understand?

On one hand I think it's all an inside practical joke by the big brains, but it's fascinating to think about. Up until they start talking about the actual possibility that this is all just a simulation, then I get freaked out and have to shut it down.

I think that's what the author of that essay was saying in a roundabout way. He does mention hallucinations as something that are real but we don't understand what they are. A monk said during an interview on NPR that meditation can bring a person's mind to a different plane of existence, where they feel a sense of understanding that's not of this world. He said this is common among monks from different religions who practice the art of meditation. So, what is DMT doing? What is it that people are seeing and experiencing? There are common threads when I read people describe the experience. Same with ayahuasca. I knew somebody who got into peyote during summer break at college and she talked about knowledge as something a person can gain just by thinking about it. Didn't work for her, though, She didn't last long in my biochemistry class. But maybe she saw something during a trip that was more than just inside her head.

I've never tried it so I don't know what that could be. I'm fine with who I am and chicken about taking potentially mind altering drugs.

 

[doughper]

biochemistry class

Are you a biochem prof? Wow. I had a buddy majoring
in molecular biology, i'm sure he was shooting for a BS. He's the
dude I partnered with to do a hydro grow...that failed. What a deal, that.
Okay, we got buds, small. My share was like 2 or 4 oz or something.
This is '84ish. They were small, but for then looked, smelled and, tasted great, and for
about half an hour, you thought that they worked, then pretty much nothing.
He'd left them for about a month, so they failed to do the job.

 

[Fogdog]

Are you a biochem prof? Wow. I had a buddy majoring
in molecular biology, i'm sure he was shooting for a BS. He's the
dude I partnered with to do a hydro grow...that failed. What a deal, that.
Okay, we got buds, small. My share was like 2 or 4 oz or something.
This is '84ish. They were small, but for then looked, smelled and, tasted great, and for
about half an hour, you thought that they worked, then pretty much nothing.
He'd left them for about a month, so they failed to do the job.

I got my degree in Biochem but went into industry as a chemist and eventually found my way into product R&D. I loved the major but didn't want to/couldn't afford to go for a PhD in the subject, which is still the union card for decent job/pay in that field. Also, I don't want to do research using animals and could not bear to work at a hospital. So, I went down a different path and it's been good.

This discussion about AI has been good. I wish we had more discussions like this, instead of dealing with MAGA lunatics.

 

[doughper]

Well cool, professor. I did a senior paper on Interleukin 2, way back for science credits.
And I had some other things I did concerning biology/mol bio.
Heh, lotta animal lovers in RIU. I'll vote for that.

I really love that optimism you have about ppl. I'm not so happy about it all.
My point is AI is freakin' dangerous, no matter how it works. But glad you're
having fun. Me too. It's still crazy tho. We're talkin' about Termi-fucking-nator here. :shudder:

 

[schuylaar]

Been thinking about this question you posed. IMO it's when it becomes "aware" of itself...once it does that..humanity needs to step in......

Another good phrase..self-aware.

 

[schuylaar]

Since we don’t have to guess at its history from rock and seawater forward, we can comfortably dismiss the soul as a fraught metaphor.

Quantum computers open the prospect (perhaps pronounced “ threat”) of an entirely new order of mind. Compared to that, conventional AI is Lego.

You would be correct on both statements.

 

[schuylaar]

Facts aren't the same as thinking, nor does combinatorial logic allow novel solutions. The human brain is nothing like a computer. The San Diego Zoo had an elephant with more creativity than any computer has.

Wonder what the natives do with those big sticks?

They train them to do that.

 

[harris hawk]

How True _ facebook, tick tock, instagram are thress fourm one should aviod. BUT today it's hard not to join them because one want to post and become known for what ever reason _ these site really fourm today thougths on subjects - everybody wants their "2 minutes fo fame"!!!! In some countries tjher are time limits on them in assoication with one age

 

[ProPheT 216]

Write an argument, 300 words. Topic is " I didn't even write this myself". Argument should highlight how easily ai can generate information, making every person able to possess their own version of "jarvis" from Iron man.

Include references to and make it funny



Have you ever read a piece of writing so good that you just couldn't believe the person who wrote it was actually capable of creating something like that? Well, let me tell you a little secret: they probably didn't even write it themselves! With the advancements in Artificial Intelligence (AI), it's easier than ever to generate high-quality content without actually having to do the hard work yourself.

In fact, AI has gotten so good that it's not just limited to writing anymore. There are now AI-powered assistants that can do everything from scheduling appointments to making coffee. That's right, we're talking about the real-life version of Jarvis from Iron Man. And the best part? You don't have to be a billionaire genius to have one. With the proliferation of AI technology, anyone can have their very own virtual assistant at their fingertips.

But don't just take my word for it. Let's take a look at some of the evidence. According to a recent study by OpenAI, their language model known as GPT-3 can generate human-like text with remarkable accuracy. In fact, the researchers found that GPT-3 was able to fool human readers into thinking its output was written by a real person nearly half of the time!

And it's not just limited to writing, either. There are now AI-powered tools that can help you create art, music, and even code. So if you've ever wanted to be the next Picasso or Beethoven, all you need is a little bit of AI magic on your side.

But let's not forget the real reason why AI assistants are so popular: they make our lives easier. With just a few simple voice commands, we can have our virtual assistant do everything from ordering pizza to setting our morning alarm. It's like having a personal butler, only without the fancy suit and accent.

So, the next time someone compliments you on your writing, feel free to take all the credit. But don't forget to give a little shout-out to your virtual assistant for all their hard work behind the scenes. After all, without them, you'd just be another mediocre writer in a sea of AI-generated content.

References:

Brown, T. B., Mann, B., Ryder, N., Subbiah, M., Kaplan, J., Dhariwal, P., ... & Amodei, D. (2020). Language models are few-shot learners. arXiv preprint arXiv:2005.14165.
"GPT-3". OpenAI. Retrieved 2023-02-24.

 

[schuylaar]

How True _ facebook, tick tock, instagram are thress fourm one should aviod. BUT today it's hard not to join them because one want to post and become known for what ever reason _ these site really fourm today thougths on subjects - everybody wants their "2 minutes fo fame"!!!! In some countries tjher are time limits on them in assoication with one age

Why do you want to post your life for all to see? Is it the competition? So many people are concerned that government is too big..NSA, FBI is listening in- they don't have to. Savvy?

 

[schuylaar]

Write an argument, 300 words. Topic is " I didn't even write this myself". Argument should highlight how easily ai can generate information, making every person able to possess their own version of "jarvis" from Iron man.

Include references to and make it funny



Have you ever read a piece of writing so good that you just couldn't believe the person who wrote it was actually capable of creating something like that? Well, let me tell you a little secret: they probably didn't even write it themselves! With the advancements in Artificial Intelligence (AI), it's easier than ever to generate high-quality content without actually having to do the hard work yourself.

In fact, AI has gotten so good that it's not just limited to writing anymore. There are now AI-powered assistants that can do everything from scheduling appointments to making coffee. That's right, we're talking about the real-life version of Jarvis from Iron Man. And the best part? You don't have to be a billionaire genius to have one. With the proliferation of AI technology, anyone can have their very own virtual assistant at their fingertips.

But don't just take my word for it. Let's take a look at some of the evidence. According to a recent study by OpenAI, their language model known as GPT-3 can generate human-like text with remarkable accuracy. In fact, the researchers found that GPT-3 was able to fool human readers into thinking its output was written by a real person nearly half of the time!

And it's not just limited to writing, either. There are now AI-powered tools that can help you create art, music, and even code. So if you've ever wanted to be the next Picasso or Beethoven, all you need is a little bit of AI magic on your side.

But let's not forget the real reason why AI assistants are so popular: they make our lives easier. With just a few simple voice commands, we can have our virtual assistant do everything from ordering pizza to setting our morning alarm. It's like having a personal butler, only without the fancy suit and accent.

So, the next time someone compliments you on your writing, feel free to take all the credit. But don't forget to give a little shout-out to your virtual assistant for all their hard work behind the scenes. After all, without them, you'd just be another mediocre writer in a sea of AI-generated content.

References:

Brown, T. B., Mann, B., Ryder, N., Subbiah, M., Kaplan, J., Dhariwal, P., ... & Amodei, D. (2020). Language models are few-shot learners. arXiv preprint arXiv:2005.14165.
"GPT-3". OpenAI. Retrieved 2023-02-24.

You can change current home AI to speak in several accents, it's in settings. Aussie, Brit-Posh, US..why do I feel the above was written by AI? No one is that happy..switch it to emo.

 

[schuylaar]

Big brain stuff, trying to understand Quantum and String theory is certainly above my level after devoting some time to it previously. The reason I asked about dimethyltryptamine is clinical studies are being done with it, and trying to keep an open mind about the infinite number of parallel universes, is it possible that substances such as dimethyltryptamine allow the brain to access/receive information that is not typically possible? Similar to the car accident victim being able to "see", obviously she got that information from somewhere. Was her brain able to receive information via a different frequency, not necessarily a parallel universe, but experiencing this universe differently than we understand?

On one hand I think it's all an inside practical joke by the big brains, but it's fascinating to think about. Up until they start talking about the actual possibility that this is all just a simulation, then I get freaked out and have to shut it down.

We have 11 dimensions mathematically proven; we can see 3.

Right church; wrong pew. Not different frequency; it's a variation in the wave.

Here's an interesting article on the subject matter from 2020. I'm not saying whether I agree or disagree just wanted you to read if you want.

DMT alters cortical travelling waves

Psychedelics induce a pattern of cortical activity very similar to the one observed during visual perception, despite participants had shut eyes.

elifesciences.org

 

[schuylaar]

I got my degree in Biochem but went into industry as a chemist and eventually found my way into product R&D. I loved the major but didn't want to/couldn't afford to go for a PhD in the subject, which is still the union card for decent job/pay in that field. Also, I don't want to do research using animals and could not bear to work at a hospital. So, I went down a different path and it's been good.

This discussion about AI has been good. I wish we had more discussions like this, instead of dealing with MAGA lunatics.

That's because I've cloaked the thread and it really reads 'Starbucks' to MAGA eyes.

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

You can change current home AI to speak in several accents, it's in settings. Aussie, Brit-Posh, US..why do I feel the above was written by AI? No one is that happy..switch it to emo.

Or you could not have a home AI...You could turn that shit off and do things for yourself, like people did for all of recorded history.
having a fact parroted at you by your phone tells you that fact, but there's no way you're going to remember it. LEARN something, and it's always with you....Look at it like the difference between downloading and streaming...download it and it's yours forever, stream it, and you rely upon the system working 100% of the times you're going to need it, which isn't going to happen...a lot of that really valuable information is ABOUT what to do when the system isn't working.

 

[cannabineer]

I don't think what I'm saying is like that. Though I will point out that your use of analogy and my ability to readily understand it is what computers, megaflops and all aren't good at. A top flight chef has to understand how the ingredients and techniques produce the flavors of the food he's serving and the effects those flavors will have on his diners before he can be a top flight chef. I'm saying that a human can't design a machine that has capabilities beyond his understanding and the human mind is not understood at this time. Computers are nothing like the human mind.

I’m challenging the bolded. I see no barrier to building a thing that creates a thing that we do not understand. In fact, I believe that we are on that journey or one like it.

I am not saying built mind will be entirely like the human mind. The architectures are different, for one. But sooner than later, we will find ourselves in deep discussion with what might be thought of as a homegrown alien.

 

[cannabineer]

That said, maybe DMT stimulates a transducer that enables perception of some dimension we can't see when we are just muggles. I'm not saying I believe that, just saying I'm open to the idea of it.

I think we need to be very very careful there. The psychedelics as a class stimulate the part of our minds that perceive and assign meaning.

Until it is proven otherwise, I am stating as axiom that with psychedelics, and the ecstatic state in general, we take out [a rearrangement of] what we brought in with us. The temptation to believe there is More to it, that we’d had a Contact, is something I’m treating as a trap built into our natures.

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

I’m challenging the bolded. I see no barrier to building a thing that creates a thing that we do not understand. In fact, I believe that we are on that journey or one like it.

I am not saying built mind will be entirely like the human mind. The architectures are different, for one. But sooner than later, we will find ourselves in deep discussion with what might be thought of as a homegrown alien.

or we might find ourselves exterminated as vermin by that same home grown alien...I don't presuppose that an AI will find reason to kill us all, but i don't have anymore reason to suppose one wouldn't, than i have to suppose that no one in a crowd will draw a weapon and start indiscriminately killing people.
The most advanced AIs available at the moment seem to have serious meltdowns when asked certain questions, led down certain conversational paths. what's to stop one from shutting down cooling systems in nuclear reactors? turning off air radar? Launching weapons that it can easily crack the launch codes of?
As far as i'm concerned, any AI research should have to be completely off line, until the stability of the AI is VERY well established.

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

I think we need to be very very careful there. The psychedelics as a class stimulate the part of our minds that perceive and assign meaning.

Until it is proven otherwise, I am stating as axiom that with psychedelics, and the ecstatic state in general, we take out [a rearrangement of] what we brought in with us. The temptation to believe there is More to it, that we’d had a Contact, is something I’m treating as a trap built into our natures.

i find it much more likely that the doors to perception that psychedelics open, are just doors to closets in our own minds, and not glimpses into dimensions we have no sensory organs to perceive.

 

[cannabineer]

or we might find ourselves exterminated as vermin by that same home grown alien...I don't presuppose that an AI will find reason to kill us all, but i don't have anymore reason to suppose one wouldn't, than i have to suppose that no one in a crowd will draw a weapon and start indiscriminately killing people.
The most advanced AIs available at the moment seem to have serious meltdowns when asked certain questions, led down certain conversational paths. what's to stop one from shutting down cooling systems in nuclear reactors? turning off air radar? Launching weapons that it can easily crack the launch codes of?
As far as i'm concerned, any AI research should have to be completely off line, until the stability of the AI is VERY well established.

One part fantasies like Terminator treat too lightly is that a self-aware mind in the machine is nowhere near having or controlling the means of reproduction.
So for the foreseeable future, humans hold the strong hand.

Killing an AI is as easy and of the same sort as the deactivating-Hal scene in 2001.
The “singularity” can only happen with broad human consent, even participation.