Landrace Sativas. Who knows what's up.

Antidote Man

Antidote Man

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This is my Jamaican Blue Mountain Lambsbread form The Real Seed Company / Kwik Seeds @ Day 70. On the site it says it goes about 100 days. I have never grown a pure sativa and am not sure what to look for when it comes to harvest time. It has some small calyxes, mixed hair color (white and orange), the leaf tips turned yellow and burnt, which I realized was from underfeeding. I'm giving it a lot more nutes and water, it drinks like no other plant.

It smells like dirt, and a little bit like Trainwreck with the pine-menthol odor. It's just very ugly and whispy, no mass to the buds. I'm curious if anyone has any feedback or knowledge on strains like this or ideas as to what I should do. I have this funny feeling the plant will always look this way, even on day 100.

Thank you, AM
 
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higher self

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I would let it go longer for sure! Defiantly let it go 100 days but like they say cant go by breeder recommendations. On the 1st run for long flowering sativas I like to run clones (they stay smaller when you veg for 1-2 wk then flip). One clone you cut when you think it's ready & then the other you basically forget about to see if it can go longer.
 
Antidote Man

Antidote Man

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higher self said:
I would let it go longer for sure! Defiantly let it go 100 days but like they say cant go by breeder recommendations. On the 1st run for long flowering sativas I like to run clones (they stay smaller when you veg for 1-2 wk then flip). One clone you cut when you think it's ready & then the other you basically forget about to see if it can go longer.
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Do the buds ever get thicker as thry near the end? Or is it strain specific?
 
Antidote Man

Antidote Man

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JulesW said:
Looks fried. What are you feeding her?
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Tiger Bloom. I upped the dose a bit. 4-5 tsp per gallon. The soil is dry. Just about to fix that. I water once per day...

And I found info online that said it was from lack of nutes as opposed to nute burn. Could that be bad information?
 
conor c

conor c

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Antidote Man said:
I wish I knew more about Sativas.... keep schoolin me peeples
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Are you feeding them synthetics?? Idk id say for landrace or heirlooms like you growing less is more and organics always works best more often than not not just cos its my preference just this is what they use back home as its what they got so id follow that unless its a pretty worked line also best to grow em in seedling compost like we use for veg etc vs grow mixes we use for modern hybrids its too hot for stuff thats not used to it
 
popeyesailorman

popeyesailorman

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I have grown several sativas and you are doing great. A month to six weeks and you will need 2nd strings to hold branches up.
You have drainage holes in the bottom of that pot?
I do small pots and short veg with 1.5 m tall @ chop. I found that my strain doesn't like topping. They split if topped and branches are tied down.
 
Antidote Man

Antidote Man

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popeyesailorman said:
I have grown several sativas and you are doing great. A month to six weeks and you will need 2nd strings to hold branches up.
You have drainage holes in the bottom of that pot?
I do small pots and short veg with 1.5 m tall @ chop. I found that my strain doesn't like topping. They split if topped and branches are tied down.
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I let the pot dry before I water. It takes 2 small quart sized watering cups to saturate it. By the following night its ready again. I don't believe I'm giving it too much nutes, but I cant explain the yellow tips. they're not crisping up so much now. I didnt top or anything, a few branches have creased already and I'm using tape. And strings

Let's hope you're right and they fatten up a bit, the plant looks lame as shit so far and very disappointing. But I will keep pressing on!

and thank you, AM
 
HenryTheEighth

HenryTheEighth

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Antidote Man said:
I wish I knew more about Sativas.... keep schoolin me peeples
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Looks like you are doing ok with it.

Sativa’s will be airy flower a lot of the time.
You are growing a ‘mountain’ sativa so expect a mountain type flower. Up in the mountain it would be misty and moist? So that’s why the flower is the way it is so it won’t rot.

If you want to grow it better, research the land it came from and grows in.

I have done long flowering whispy sativa before. I found a self watering pot helps when they turn into drinkers.
Sativas are usually light feeders I just used a organic tomato food at half strength. Bumped the strength up when required to correct yellowing.

I found putting it in a modified TALL tent with vertical fluoro tube lights around the walls was a winner as it could pretty much touch anywhere and not get burnt.

That would be my advice if you plan to keep doing long flowering sativa. Get a small tent that would suit one plant. Build a plinth to sit the tent up on (because half your height is pot and stem) then the four feet of plant that is flowers surround that with vertical fluoro tubes.
400 - 600 watts worth of tubes.

Hope that helps.
 
calvin.m16

calvin.m16

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Antidote Man said:
Do the buds ever get thicker as thry near the end? Or is it strain specific?
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I think this is strain dependent at this point. I have let plants go an extra 3 weeks in flower and gotten the same results as far as density and yield. Some plants will "harden up" a little more if you give them more time, the scientific term I think is the calyxes swell? but the yield isn't any different, just the buds tighten up a lot as it ripens. there's a point where not chopping is just wasting resources and time.
 
conor c

conor c

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calvin.m16 said:
I think this is strain dependent at this point. I have let plants go an extra 3 weeks in flower and gotten the same results as far as density and yield. Some plants will "harden up" a little more if you give them more time, the scientific term I think is the calyxes swell? but the yield isn't any different, just the buds tighten up a lot as it ripens. there's a point where not chopping is just wasting resources and time.
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Aye some stuffs on the airy side somes compact its just genetics i had it recently with a old skunk line one of the phenos grew and bloomed like a haze the rest solid old classic skunk buds same light feed no pests nada different except genetics/pheno to account for it as others have said without our intensive selection for denser buds some stuff will be airy due to environment as its an adaptation also anything ever used for a hashplant can often be this way too see airy stuff has more surface area for the resin glands to develop on so you often find stuff like proper morrocan can be this way i reckon theres reason to it besides just ressistance sometimes
 
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