We gotta be able to work WITH the GOP

ttystikk

ttystikk

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Fogdog said:
Which Democrat are you talking about? The Democratic Party is a coalition that has always had important factions that opposed the various wars the US has engaged in, going back to Korea. As I said in an earlier message, Democrats are not authoritarians who require they follow a single leader's policy.

Even today, the Democratic Party doesn't hew to one leader's policy. There is dissent. They are being listened to but sometimes people are simply wrong about what they want. I'm completely for the US's military aid to enable Ukraine to defend itself from recolonization by Putin's imperial Russia. That you support Putin's war against Ukraine's valid and internationally recognized effort to retain its nascent democratic government speaks volumes about how tolerant you are of absolutist authoritarian rule. But that's OK, I'll listen to what you have to say about the war in Ukraine. You almost always fail fact checks but you are completely entitled to be wrong.
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This is a wall of text that does nothing but make excuses. When Democrats talk about war, is never about "whether," it's only about "when" and "who?"

So thanks for proving my point. I'm fine voting for war mongers. Starting wars for profit is a lot worse than racism and I am hereby pushing back against the pro war propaganda consent manufacturing machine.

We COULD be spending half a trillion dollars a year on a very pressing problem guaranteed to become a catastrophe called climate change.

Show the MIC how they stand to make a buck on the project and I bet we'd have their buy in.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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ttystikk said:
This is a wall of text that does nothing but make excuses. When Democrats talk about war, is never about "whether," it's only about "when" and "who?"

So thanks for proving my point. I'm fine voting for war mongers. Starting wars for profit is a lot worse than racism and I am hereby pushing back against the pro war propaganda consent manufacturing machine.

We COULD be spending half a trillion dollars a year on a very pressing problem guaranteed to become a catastrophe called climate change.

Show the MIC how they stand to make a buck on the project and I bet we'd have their buy in.
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Nice job at deflecting. Your point only works in the vague generalization that if one Democrat supported a war than all of them do, which is a lie and a distortion of what I said.

In any case, the US's involvement in the war that Ukraine is fighting to oppose recolonization by Russia is just and I see no reason to deny that many Democrats do support it. If there was ever a just cause for supporting a war, this is it. Your reply is a deflection. You accuse me of making an excuse, which I did not do.

Appeasing Putin is on the same belly crawling level of blind belief and stupidity that some leaders in Britain engaged in that enabled Hitler to launch the war in Europe. But I do not say you are making an excuse for Putin. You have always supported red handed dictators in this forum.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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ooof-da said:
Agree we gotta work together but can we just do a bonfire & some marshmallows while they eat their own?

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They are doing a pretty good job of beating the shit out of themselves and there are lots of former republicans on TV taking a stick to them too. You need to deal with them until they become a minority then you can ignore them and the noise while addressing genuine legitimate concerns. Somethings and views are incompatible with the constitution, the law or basic human rights however and hate speech is not speech it's just a weapon. They need to lie, cheat and steal to get elected now, can't accept the will of the majority and know they are on the wrong side of history. They even need a propaganda network, foxnews, to prop them up and brainwash morons.
 
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