TRUMP CONVICTED

topcat

topcat

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BudmanTX said:
give ya an idea of his rant....oh this is good:

NEW: Chris Kise asks for permission to have Trump speak. Engoron, “Do you promise to just comment on the facts and the law?” Trump starts talking immediately without agreeing.

“This was a political witch hunt; we should receive damages for what they have taken our company through. They have no documents—they have nothing!” The only thing they have, Trump concedes, is the triplex, which was a mistake.

“I am not sure the dollar amount would have been that far off, if you want to know!” But Trump continues, “I am an innocent man. I have been politically persecuted. . . . This statute is vicious.”

“What has happened here is a fraud on ME. . . . The amount of taxes I have paid over this period is close to $300 million. They don’t want me here anymore. I have a problem; they want to make sure I don’t run again.”

Trump goes on — without any interruption from Engoron or her team — and attacks James, accusing her of election interference. “You have your own agenda,” Trump angrily says to Engoron. “You can’t listen for more than one minute!”

Engoron pleads with Kise, “Mr. Kise, please control your client.” Trump nonetheless accuses James of going after him for her political gain, including an allegedly “failed” run for Governor, at which point Engoron shuts it down.

But it’s too late. Everything Trump wanted to say was said. And now, having said it, he has left the courtroom after insisting James should pay him for the havoc she’s wreaked on his company.

This is from:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1745504676513014081


Looks like someone is gonna be writing a big ck soon from this......a $370million dollar one.....let the grifting begin...
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The Fuck just starts in without agreeing to the conditions and judge lets him get away with it. I suppose, the judge was avoiding a potential appeal point.
 
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CCGNZ

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cannabineer said:
Biden doing such a thing would set a bad precedent whose downside greatly exceeds any imagined temporary political gains. It would have the opposite effect of healing the nation.

- it would cheapen a criminal conviction of that insurrectionist
- it would not change maga minds, not elected ones nor the base
- it would strengthen maga’s belief in their own legitimacy/righteousness and prolong the national crisis.

I think the chances of Biden pardoning that man or any of his coconspirators are zero.
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Good points man,I knew it'd be risky in those regards and I'm always concerned w/precedent,I was just thinking that mercy shown could possibly derail all the hatred and conspiracy theory that is certain to take flight in epic proportions following a R defeat. Possibly reintroducing the fact that we are still all Americans,promote some much needed healing and begin the arduous task of bringing politics back to some form decency and negotiation. I also considered Mr. Oranges age,and w/jail removed he'd fade away.In the end it was just a thought by someone who hates where his country is at presently thirsting for a solution to walk back from a cliff.The odds of what you say happening are definitely in your favor and I'd hate to empower or legitimize this vile movement,either I had a brain fart or am a hopeless romantic reaching back for a time that no longer exists.
 
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CCGNZ

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Fogdog said:
No pardon for attempted overthrow of government. No pardon for Trump or other insurrectionists. Pardoning him is weakness toward people who despise weakness. Nixon should not have been pardoned either. It was made in the interests of healing division and nothing of the sort happened afterward. In the next election, the majority of this country will vote for Biden and for democracy. The people we vote for must follow through with our mandate to protect democracy.

I view the trials of Trump and the pace at which the legal proceedings are going as "deliberate speed". We can take delays, deflections and Trump's diatribes. They are mostly harmless. What would be harmful are missteps that end in miscarriages of justice. So, I'm listening to gadflies like DIY as the counterpoint to Trump's MAGA posts. Both are wrong. Let our politics be what they are -- messy, noisy, confusing and dynamic. Let our justice system be none of that. Both are necessary.
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Yeah your right,just a passing thought from a guy wanting his country's wounds to heal.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
CCGNZ said:
Good points man,I knew it'd be risky in those regards and I'm always concerned w/precedent,I was just thinking that mercy shown could possibly derail all the hatred and conspiracy theory that is certain to take flight in epic proportions following a R defeat. Possibly reintroducing the fact that we are still all Americans,promote some much needed healing and begin the arduous task of bringing politics back to some form decency and negotiation. I also considered Mr. Oranges age,and w/jail removed he'd fade away.In the end it was just a thought by someone who hates where his country is at presently thirsting for a solution to walk back from a cliff.The odds of what you say happening are definitely in your favor and I'd hate to empower or legitimize this vile movement,either I had a brain fart or am a hopeless romantic reaching back for a time that no longer exists.
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I’d like for the country to heal as well. I was born into the post-world war dividend era of optimism, prosperity and (excepting an imperial adventure in Indochina that left many dead or psychologically wounded) relative peace. Men on the moon! TV Dinners!!

However, under the booming surface, there was a lot of evil. Some residual; some emergent. Women were targets of universal bigotry. Brown people were imposter humans to a large section of the populace. Being gay could get you being dead. (When Aids came around, I heard more than one Good Christian say it was God’s punishment.) The ethnic joke was everywhere. We flared off natural gas because it was in the way of keeping the crude flowing into our sub-10-mpg chrome station wagons.

So nostalgia is often selective. Rose-colored glasses.

The only way is forward. Our current difficulties are a consequence of progress. (Imagine Nixon — or Huey Long — with a Twitter account!)
Think of the new things, clear down to a news network making money hand over fist selling fascist hate propaganda. And climate change happening fast and hard enough that its deniers are becoming recognized as collectively crazy. We cannot wish these things away.
Heck, we still cannot wish away Southern grievance rooted in being stripped of the God-hallowed right to own conveniently color-coded slaves.

So, as a nation and individually, we have a mountain of work to do.

The only way is forward.
Into the headwind.
Whatever it may blow our way.
 
BudmanTX

BudmanTX

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topcat said:
The Fuck just starts in without agreeing to the conditions and judge lets him get away with it. I suppose, the judge was avoiding a potential appeal point.
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yeah just like dumb dumb huh, but as usual, when dumb dumb does this he usually sinks himself, like he did with this rant......he actually admits to his triplex to being a mistake which enforces what the trial is about anyways. Then he walks out like a cry baby and does his trantrum......cause he knows he's gonna have to write a big 370 mill ck later and he's gonna be banned from NY for life......

and if you think that's bad, the 2nd Carroll trial is next, first trial he had to pay 5.5mil, this time, i'll think they'll double it or triple it....we'll see
 
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Mikeyjuana

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jimihendrix1 said:
tRump is now the first president to ever get indicted. The charges are still under seal, but its assumed that the charges are going to go way beyond just the Stormy Daniels debacle. But its speculated these are Felony Charges.

And dont forget tRump pled the 5th 450 times which are all 450 are potential crimes. Hes in really deep shit. Charges wont be unsealed until Arraignment.
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Well since your first post things have quite a bit worse for Trumpy and Republicans. These jackasses don't have a chance in 2024.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Mikeyjuana said:
Well since your first post things have quite a bit worse for Trumpy and Republicans. These jackasses don't have a chance in 2024.
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Living in a red rural district, I’m not so confident. Lotta people I chat up at the store have a dug-in siege mentality I ordinarily would have associated with jihadis or other full-strength fanatics. I’d like to see both houses of Congress go to Democrats, but it does not look like a slam dunk from here.
 
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