Budzbuddha
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Examples of GOP Leadership
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cannabineer
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Budzbuddha
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Offmymeds
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I would write to my representative but she is Anna Paulina Luna. She may be Roseanne Roseannadanna's less intelligent half-sister.
I did actually write to her not long ago. I wrote to complain about the reckless use of the information from Russian intel after the FBI had warned about the credibility of the witness's statements.
Her reply:
Dear Mr. OffMyMeds,
Thank you for contacting me with concerns regarding the FBI. I always appreciate hearing your views on important issues.
I am concerned about the partisan weaponization of the FBI. It is truly one of the greatest scandals of our time and has left a permanent black mark on our justice system and the media, who shamefully covers up and perpetuates the FBI’s corruption. Rest assured; the FBI will not get another red cent with my vote.
Far too few Americans are familiar with the timeline of the FBI’s corruption. It all began with former FBI Director James Comey. Knowing that the stories were bogus, James Comey’s unverified and salacious use of the 2016 Steele Dossier helped orchestrate the greatest political lie and defaming in the history of the United States. FISA warrants were approved, after lying to the FISA courts, to spy on Donald Trump’s campaign as part of Hillary Clinton’s plan to defame Trump that was proposed in meetings of August 2016 with then President Barack Obama and his national security team. Comey used his time with then President-Elect Trump to take notes and attempt to create the case record for a prosecution. This would be entrapment in any other context. Since President Trump has left office, the harassment continues with armed raids of his home for documents and overblown indictments.
The truth is, the FBI has been weaponized by the government for partisan political purposes to silence political rivals. When other countries behave like this, the U.N. demands accountability. In the present circumstances, their silence is deafening.
I believe that the DOJ and the FBI are obligated to execute their roles as federal law enforcement entities without bias and prejudice. While human nature might inevitably cause some to abuse their positions of power for personal or political gain, we can and should demand these institutions work to restrain any biased activity on their part. The best way to prevent and restrain those human biases is accountability, yet the FBI’s endless trail of corruption never results in consequences.
Our Constitution promises equal justice under the law. Millions of Americans have lost faith in that promise, to the indelible shame of the FBI. Know that while I serve you in Congress, I will work to ensure accountability for the bad actors in our government, reform so that these abuses cannot recur, and I will work on the long project of trying to restore the FBI’s credibility with the American people.
Thank you again for contacting my office on this important topic. I will keep your thoughts in mind as we continue to debate policy here in Congress. Please do not hesitate to contact me if I can be of further assistance. To receive the latest updates from my office, I encourage you to sign up for my e-newsletter at luna.house.gov (about:blank) or like/follow my Twitter (about:blank), and Instagram. (about:blank)
Sincerely,
Rep. Anna Paulina Luna
Member of Congress
hanimmal
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wow she hit all the propaganda topics on the bingo card in her response. It really should be illegal for our elected leaders to push lies to us citizens like the GQP has been relying on to maintain their cult.
Fogdog
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She basically told you to fuck off by lying directly to you with a form letter. Isn't it some sort of power play? Lied directly to you as if you have no recourse?
You are a one of very few who actually write or directly communicate with her office. You have the advantage of being right. You also know others who might be persuadable to vote for somebody other than her. Keep that letter and use it to show others what she is saying. That power play she made on you might be used against her. Do you know somebody who is coming into voting age to show that to?
Just saying, SCOTUS has conceded their role to protect our elections to the voters. It's up to us now.
Bagginski
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To be fair, it’s *ALWAYS* been up to us: US citizens who *stay informed* and vote
CSA/GOP & -adjacent have been lying to everyone & deliberately screwing with laws, appointments & precedents ever since they began pretending secession was ‘to prove a point about freedom’ & they’ve ALWAYS been true-blue American patriots, even when killing the US Army.
Bad on us for falling for their bullshit framing & assuming their destabilizing efforts have simply been “honest mistakes”. Bad on us for allowing ourselves to forget that being “a Christian” of any sort is NO guarantee of honesty, integrity, intelligence, or good-heartedness. Bad on us for being so ALARMED that Catholic Kennedy might listen to THE POPE over the voters & over the nation’s well-being, but not raising an eyebrow at the focused efforts of CHRISTIANS to force mediaeval biblical frames & “precedents” on the nation AND on “We, the People”
CSA/GOP & -adjacent have been lying to everyone & deliberately screwing with laws, appointments & precedents ever since they began pretending secession was ‘to prove a point about freedom’ & they’ve ALWAYS been true-blue American patriots, even when killing the US Army.
Bad on us for falling for their bullshit framing & assuming their destabilizing efforts have simply been “honest mistakes”. Bad on us for allowing ourselves to forget that being “a Christian” of any sort is NO guarantee of honesty, integrity, intelligence, or good-heartedness. Bad on us for being so ALARMED that Catholic Kennedy might listen to THE POPE over the voters & over the nation’s well-being, but not raising an eyebrow at the focused efforts of CHRISTIANS to force mediaeval biblical frames & “precedents” on the nation AND on “We, the People”
Bagginski
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I don’t know what’s happened to Turley…seems like his gyroscope needs calibration or something, but this is stinkin’ thinkin’
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Fogdog
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It didn't have to be this way. Our courts and political systems failed us. And so now, We The People are the last line of defense for our Constitution and way of life. Donald Trump should never have been allowed to run again after what he did on Jan 6. Not just that but especially that.
But personally, I think the US is undergoing this crisis because the US is changing into a multi ethnic, multi cultural society that is radically different from the white Christian male dominated US society that it has been since the beginning. What's happening is a counter-revolution that arose after the civil rights act was passed. The counter revolution was bound to happen. It just so happened that Trump is its leader.
Fogdog
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I didn't hear much reasoning, just him saying "this is "WRONG".I don’t know what’s happened to Turley…seems like his gyroscope needs calibration or something, but this is stinkin’ thinkin’
Opinion | Supreme Court immunity review and Trump. Three things to know — Fox News
Progressives media pundits have been weighing in on Trump and the decision by the Supreme Court to review the immunity question. They are saying outrageous things. Here's the truth. .
But there is room agreement with his point that the SCOTUS ought to settle the issue that Trump raised by his actions and legal defense. Trump is alleging that his actions to investigate the election and prevent the peaceful transfer of power were official acts. And so he claims that his actions are protected under the immunity clause of the Constitution. SCOTUS has framed their case for review using those words "alleged official act". This seems appropriate to me. What is not appropriate is they allowed the stay to remain. They could have let Smith proceed with his prosecution and trial, then settle the argument upon appeal. In this way, the trial will be done well before the election and Trump won't have the chance that he's angling for by running for office again -- to terminate the trial before it can be held.
cannabineer
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I suspect an additional factor is the breakneck speed with which information technology, and the way we use it (and the effect it has on how we feel and think about things) is evolving.
For all their seeming backwardness, the Russians and Chinese have been much quicker on the ball than the West in exploiting the potential of the new medium to bring in propaganda below the cognitive radar of folks like me who grew up with newspapers and dial phones.
This is an unprecedented collision between older values and shockingly sophisticated microtargeting of propaganda to voters. Personally I think this is the more fundamental issue, with the resurrection of white-people grievances a veneer on a quantum leap in manipulation.
I would not be surprised if the foreign cyberwar divisions had AI working on this that are a decade ahead of our clumsy but still scary commercial LLM introductions.
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cannabineer
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This is why I fear our current panel of justices. Look how long it took for Justice Thomas (and her husband) to emerge from sleeper agent status.
Bagginski
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I don’t mean to make light of the concern, and I agree strongly overall. AI, though? I don’t see it.
They would surely use it if they had it, but there’s zero reason to assume Russiastan has any better understanding of intelligence, artificial or otherwise, than we do….which is to say, IMO neither side has enough of a grasp on it to do more than ape human performance in software - and do it blindly. Which is to say I’ve been completely unsurprised by the ‘unreliable’ performance of experimental AI agents like have been in the news
Problem I see is a fundamental miscomprehension of “intelligence” by software engineers & the companies that use them: the approaches are shallow, incomplete, patchwork, driven by sales/mkting, but comparatively easy to adapt to binary thinking because RESULTS is how you keep those jobs. Its best output (I’ve seen) is visual, which is a bunch easier than rational. More years’ experience with relationship, failure, philosophy, & the world in general would help, but this is what we do.
Frankly, I doubt “AI” will advance far beyond where it is until we get a better grasp of intelligence - and all the parts that integrate to make it happen - and how they integrate.
Then we can make progress on how NOT to do The Next Really Stupid Thing(tm). Maybe
cannabineer
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Disclaimer: I know jack about cybernetics.
However, there are areas where we have underperformed relative to Russians or Chinese. I can also imagine them forging ahead with fewer safeguards in place, especially if some of their Very Smart People sell a huge opportunity to their funders.
I don’t know. It could also be brute-forced by enormous troll farms. China allegedly has over a quarter million paid trolls cranking out half a billion posts.
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Russia likely has tens of thousands. I have difficulty imagining that without some very sophisticated models telling the Cyber Rifles where to aim, they’d be as effective as they appear to have been.
Bottom line — I’m presenting a very speculative opinion with little hard data.
Bagginski
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Except that Turley is WRONG saying SCOTUS “*ought* to”.
DC Circuit did a master class in their ruling. ONLY reason for SCOTUS to mess with it is because they want to mess with it.
They are playing with fire, and Turley goes down a few more notches in my thinking for not seeing their flagrant desire to screw with the election timeline. The Hopium is that Trump will win in Nov. as long as TFFG hasn’t been convicted yet. That’s almost cute at this point, in its detachment from current events.
Yes, we’re all antsy. Yes, time flies. Yes, Chump is winning primaries. Exit-polling tells another story: 40% of GOP *primary* voters voted AGAINST the ochre ogre overall so far…and 50% of them said they would never vote for TFFG again under any circumstances. And Nikki Haley keeps getting donations so she’s staying in. I’m not the number-cruncher on this, but the extrapolated results suggest that 25% of the GOP base has turned against him…which matches my *own* long-term tracking
In ‘74-76, following Nixon’s Watergate hearings, solid conservatives turned against GOP, brought in Carter, & gave congress to the Dems…and that was only ~10% that stayed away.
By then, the Powell-memo counter-revolution was set to put REAGAN & his proto-MAGA goons in power, Koch libertarianism was inflating, and Alex Jones had his first Prison Planet IRC channel (in re: your other post)
This is the situation as it stands now: efforts to delay his trials will likely only succeed in pushing them into *peak campaign season*. WATCHING the Senate Watergate hearings changed A LOT OF GOP MINDS about Nixon’s guilt & responsibility; watching his trials will have a similar but magnified effect. Could lead to TFFG getting 60% of his 2020 numbers, or even less.
Either way, the nation will change distinctly after election day: the post-plantation era will be over
Bagginski
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I understand my opinions re: AI arise from my years as a software cowboy & systems design. Re: propaganda proper, they seem to do plenty well via brute force. Manipulation of others is something many of us learn at least a little about, growing up; being taught how by professionals would be a piece of cake in a guilt-free environmentDisclaimer: I know jack about cybernetics.
However, there are areas where we have underperformed relative to Russians or Chinese. I can also imagine them forging ahead with fewer safeguards in place, especially if some of their Very Smart People sell a huge opportunity to their funders.
I don’t know. It could also be brute-forced by enormous troll farms. China allegedly has over a quarter million paid trolls cranking out half a billion posts.
50 Cent Party - Wikipedia
Russia likely has tens of thousands. I have difficulty imagining that without some very sophisticated models telling the Cyber Rifles where to aim, they’d be as effective as they appear to have been.
Bottom line — I’m presenting a very speculative opinion with little hard data.
laddyd
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Luna is a good name for such a lunatic. You realize I hope that the world at large sees through these lies. Shame on you.
cannabineer
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Shame on him for what?
Bagginski
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EXCELLENT question
CANON_Grow
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I believe the shame was meant for Rep. Anna Paulina Luna, not towards Offmymeds.