Thermoelectric wine cooler drying and curing - DIY

[g4sho]

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Question to Gemini: Is VDP a good measurement to follow when drying cannabis

Answer: No, VPD (Vapor Pressure Deficit) is not generally considered a good measurement to directly follow when drying cannabis.
Here's why:

• Different goals: VPD is ideal for regulating plant growth and health. Drying cannabis focuses on moisture removal to preserve the bud while minimizing degradation.
• Static vs dynamic environment: VPD thrives in a dynamic environment where factors like temperature and humidity can fluctuate slightly to achieve the targeted VPD. Drying cannabis requires a more static environment with specific temperature and humidity ranges to promote slow, even drying.

What to focus on instead:

• Temperature: Aim for a cool drying space, ideally between 60-68°F (15-20°C). Higher temperatures can accelerate drying and degrade cannabinoids and terpenes.
• Humidity: Maintain a relative humidity (RH) between 50-60%. Too high and you risk mold growth, too low and the buds dry out too fast, affecting quality.

Alternative methods for monitoring drying cannabis:

• Feel: The buds should feel dry to the touch but still have a slight give when squeezed gently.
• Stems: The small stems inside the buds should snap easily when bent.

Who is gemini,

 

[mobilekasey]

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Who is gemini,

Google AI... here is the reponse from Chat GPT.

Me
Is VDP a good measurement to follow when drying cannabis

ChatGPT
Vapor Pressure Deficit (VPD) can be a useful measurement to consider when drying cannabis, but it's not typically the primary measurement used for this process. VPD is more commonly used during the growing phase to optimize environmental conditions for plant growth.
When drying cannabis, the key factors typically monitored include humidity levels, temperature, airflow, and light exposure. These factors collectively influence the drying process and the quality of the final product. Here are some considerations:

1. Humidity Control: Maintaining the right humidity levels (usually around 50-60% relative humidity) helps prevent mold growth and ensures a controlled drying process.
2. Temperature: Moderate temperatures (around 60-70°F or 15-21°C) are generally ideal for drying cannabis. Higher temperatures can speed up drying but may degrade cannabinoids and terpenes.
3. Airflow: Proper airflow is crucial to ensure even drying and prevent mold. However, too much airflow can dry the cannabis too quickly.
4. Light Exposure: Cannabis should be dried in a dark environment to preserve cannabinoids and terpenes.

While VPD could theoretically guide humidity control during drying, it's more practical to directly monitor and adjust relative humidity using a hygrometer. VPD is more relevant in the context of cultivation where it helps optimize conditions for plant growth and transpiration.
In conclusion, while VPD is not typically used as a direct measurement during cannabis drying, understanding basic principles of humidity, temperature, airflow, and light exposure is essential for achieving a high-quality final product.

 

[mobilekasey]

Does anyone know if a camara's IR night vision lights would impact flowers in any way during the dry cycle? I thought it might be cool to hook up a wyze cam and do a time lapse inside a Koolatrol. Thoughts?

 

[Hook Daddy]

Does anyone know if a camara's IR night vision lights would impact flowers in any way during the dry cycle? I thought it might be cool to hook up a wyze cam and do a time lapse inside a Koolatrol. Thoughts?

I don’t have scientific data, but from everything I’ve read it’s the uv light that does the most damage to thc, so i would think the ir light from a camera would have little to no effect. The heat generated by the lights and camera may be a different story. I didn’t cover the glass on my koolatron because it blocks uv, and for me that was good enough.

 

[mobilekasey]

I don’t have scientific data, but from everything I’ve read it’s the uv light that does the most damage to thc, so i would think the ir light from a camera would have little to no effect. The heat generated by the lights and camera may be a different story. I didn’t cover the glass on my koolatron because it blocks uv, and for me that was good enough.

Thanks, thought it would be cool to get a timelapse of flowers shriveling. I'll think about it.

 

[curious2garden]

Guys, no more insults or arguing, thanks.

 

[mobilekasey]

I got my fridge and got everything wired up and my racks zip tied with grill mesh. Doing a 24 hour run with baking soda in my garden shed as a test. I set it to 58 and it started out with 80 reading. Just checked on it and it's reading 58 and it's 101 in the shed. VERY surprised. I won't be leaving it there but wanted to see what it could handle. Harvesting tomorrow!

 

[UnknownRemedy]

I got my fridge and got everything wired up and my racks zip tied with grill mesh. Doing a 24 hour run with baking soda in my garden shed as a test. I set it to 58 and it started out with 80 reading. Just checked on it and it's reading 58 and it's 101 in the shed. VERY surprised. I won't be leaving it there but wanted to see what it could handle. Harvesting tomorrow!

My ac infinity probe actually clocks it 2 degrees lower than my fridge usually says.

 

[mobilekasey]

My ac infinity probe actually clocks it 2 degrees lower than my fridge usually says.

Im gonna be using an ac infinity too. Have the probe wired but haven't powered it up yet. Waiting for the plug for the dehumidifier.

 

[mobilekasey]

Im gonna be using an ac infinity too. Have the probe wired but haven't powered it up yet. Waiting for the plug for the dehumidifier.

Got mine hooked up and the ac infinity probe is clocking 1-2 higher than the fridge display. Where did you guys fix your probe inside the fridge?

 

[UnknownRemedy]

Got mine hooked up and the ac infinity probe is clocking 1-2 higher than the fridge display. Where did you guys fix your probe inside the fridge?

I had these 3m clips that I hooked the probe onto and placed it in the same place as Hook Daddy did here: https://www.rollitup.org/t/thermoelectric-wine-cooler-drying-and-curing-diy.1088980/post-17379290

 

[mobilekasey]

I had these 3m clips that I hooked the probe onto and placed it in the same place as Hook Daddy did here: https://www.rollitup.org/t/thermoelectric-wine-cooler-drying-and-curing-diy.1088980/post-17379290

Thanks! Do you remove the drain plug or does that still allow water to drain with it sitting in place?

 

[mobilekasey]

Can anyone confirm if you leave the small loosely fitted drain plug in place or remove it?

 

[mobilekasey]

I had these 3m clips that I hooked the probe onto and placed it in the same place as Hook Daddy did here: https://www.rollitup.org/t/thermoelectric-wine-cooler-drying-and-curing-diy.1088980/post-17379290

Last question hopefully. What did you use as your initial settings with the ac infinity? I've never used one and not quite sure how to provid a range so it doesn't continuously click on and off.

 

[Foilcard]

Would love to join a discord for this group/topic. Different channels for like, building and mods, pictures of results, science experiments .

 

[Foilcard]

@Hook Daddy are you chopping and hanging for a day? Or bucking right after harvest and into the Kooler?

 

[mobilekasey]

@Hook Daddy are you chopping and hanging for a day? Or bucking right after harvest and into the Kooler?

Right in

 

[mobilekasey]

@Hook Daddy are you chopping and hanging for a day? Or bucking right after harvest and into the Kooler?

Sorry, I am going right in. I believe that is what Hook Daddy is doing too based on some previous pages.

 

[Tolerance Break]

After back to back crop failure due to bud rot during the drying process, with another crop at least a month from harvest, I just bit the bullet and bought the thermoelectric wine cooler and dehumidifier. I already have the Inkbird, still in its box.

Going to be studying this thread closely. Appreciate the work yall put in to make this so straightforward.

 

[Foilcard]

Thanks @mobilekasey , How much wet trim are you doing if its going straight in? Just larger fans? Or just buckin the nugs and throwing em in?