I frequently wait until I see a volunteer or two before chopping. So as soon as they fall they can sprout.
Help me start my perpetual garden
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medidedicated
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Clone flowering time
I didn’t take time watch that video yet. But I knew a grower on here at one point, that did lab testing weekly on some plants from the middle of flower till the end.
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Was checking out this thread, dont want to necro or hijack it.
@Thundercat Is there any reason half of my clones are struggling to find white hairs whereas my other half of garden looks like it has couple weeks to go?
Same clones but two are in a mildly scrogged 2.5x5 and the rest are 2x4 and 2x2 so theyre taller/bushier have a darker larf area.
The larger tent is visually better lit in that area and am struggling to find signs of growth. Mother ran for 11 wks had even better lighting in larf area.
They just completed 9 weeks tomorrow. Its a top-down ripening type plant, its just waiting on larf area right now.
Is it normal to be off like this? Would you just harvest whatevers ready or wait for the rest? Its a stretch to say the rest will be done in two weeks from now.
Any thoughts appreciated you surely have the experience worth listening to.
medidedicated
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As for details my lated couple pages has all the details if you just scan through the photos and some of the texts in it. Flipped all at the same time.
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2.5x5. My favorite tent. RH here stays no higher than 47%. Lots of big buds. Better canopy. edit ec in 1.8 runoff 2.3 in this tent and probably the rest. Week later 1.5 ec in now 1.67ec out. I think its dialed in again unless I never needed to go that high initially. No progressing burns.
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medidedicated
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I was last told they should finish at the same time no if and or buts, but they just arent exactly the same. Some of the plants didnt produce smells terpenes etc as fast as the rest, actually, same plants are part of the ones not finishing as fast.
I kinda figured it can express different things even as the same plant. Like cloning a human and putting them in adverse enviorments. Idk lol.
I kinda figured it can express different things even as the same plant. Like cloning a human and putting them in adverse enviorments. Idk lol.
medidedicated
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The larger clones. Seems like one week left.
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The 2x2 that showed smell and buds as quick as the larger clones while the 2x4 took a few days longer maybe more to follow. Seems slightly closer to harvest.
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medidedicated
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The 2x4. As I look at them yea maybe two weeks but if not I feel like I could adjust somthing like just harvest when ready. I originally wanted to harvest all in one.
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Can only add 10 pics so heres the tops of the 2x4.
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Thundercat
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Inevitably the two tents have slightly different environments. Different lighting, temps, humidity, airflow, feeding will all change how the plant performs.
I strongly discourage anyone from harvesting plants any earlier than when they are absolutely finished. Early harvesting is the biggest mistake I see growers making.
I strongly discourage anyone from harvesting plants any earlier than when they are absolutely finished. Early harvesting is the biggest mistake I see growers making.
Thundercat
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These pictures were all of larf that I would have removed from the plant at the beginning of flower to allow the plant so focus on upper growth.
I don’t see any colas even in the background of the pictures.
Personally I wouldn’t be trying to grow such bushy plants like that in such a small place with such low lighting.
I don’t see any colas even in the background of the pictures.
Personally I wouldn’t be trying to grow such bushy plants like that in such a small place with such low lighting.
medidedicated
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edit need to delete, its early struggling to not ramble. It was just rambling. In short Il just keep seeing how I can improve. Each run will teach me more.
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medidedicated
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Yea it was like 6am I wasnt there yet needed all day thinking about it. So basically just harvest the ready tents and the smaller ones work on making smaller plants so they perhaps finish about the same time.
You wouldnt be bent on making them line up perfectly? Just keep working the tents and take clones at an increasingly more suitable time?
It would be cool if they just so happen to finish together but I posted because it just didnt seem likely.
So when I check big tent I struggle to find new growth the easiest to spot was what I showed and its already ripening up.
Perhaps I can harvest end of next week and cut all the super ripe tops off the 2x2’s which theres plenty, allow for the rest to quickly ripe now in optimal conditions..
Then try to make better 2x2 canopies to allow for the growth I got for the bigger tent. Something went very well to of finish in 10 weeks vs 12 or 13. Being perpetual I could just “keep it moving” but I agree its worth the wait.
I waited till all ripe on the mom plant and had no feelings of regret like I did anything wrong. Only had that happen with two plants. Almost 4 as these two are truely there already.
You wouldnt be bent on making them line up perfectly? Just keep working the tents and take clones at an increasingly more suitable time?
It would be cool if they just so happen to finish together but I posted because it just didnt seem likely.
So when I check big tent I struggle to find new growth the easiest to spot was what I showed and its already ripening up.
Perhaps I can harvest end of next week and cut all the super ripe tops off the 2x2’s which theres plenty, allow for the rest to quickly ripe now in optimal conditions..
Then try to make better 2x2 canopies to allow for the growth I got for the bigger tent. Something went very well to of finish in 10 weeks vs 12 or 13. Being perpetual I could just “keep it moving” but I agree its worth the wait.
I waited till all ripe on the mom plant and had no feelings of regret like I did anything wrong. Only had that happen with two plants. Almost 4 as these two are truely there already.
medidedicated
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I can wait it out for the smaller tents but yea you called it the parts Im waiting on are just too dim enviorment to swell and quickly. This is about to take 1-2 weeks longer than the mom which wasnt forseen.
I was going to add side lighting in case it over packs next time, already have my next clones I may as well flip that are same size. Its the run after that that will improve by flipping earlier. Or will just prune and scrog denser.
I could try to get there faster just wrapping it up at some point soon, and the next round just test if it causes nanners to keep that area shaved.
I noticed now on few grows that those areas will try to grow larf a couple or few times during the grow. If Im just making hash and getting the most larf I could I wouldnt be upset.
My goals were 3-4oz per 2x2 plant. Was reading if it were one grow to squeeze out the rest but if perpetual you can “keep it moving” suffer minimal loss and just correct asap.
See those my thoughts I couldnt say all this at 6am and still barely can. Its turning out to be tricky and need to decide.
I was going to add side lighting in case it over packs next time, already have my next clones I may as well flip that are same size. Its the run after that that will improve by flipping earlier. Or will just prune and scrog denser.
I could try to get there faster just wrapping it up at some point soon, and the next round just test if it causes nanners to keep that area shaved.
I noticed now on few grows that those areas will try to grow larf a couple or few times during the grow. If Im just making hash and getting the most larf I could I wouldnt be upset.
My goals were 3-4oz per 2x2 plant. Was reading if it were one grow to squeeze out the rest but if perpetual you can “keep it moving” suffer minimal loss and just correct asap.
See those my thoughts I couldnt say all this at 6am and still barely can. Its turning out to be tricky and need to decide.
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medidedicated
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Aww yee an end in sight to this grow. Larger clones chop friday just so I can press on weekend also because they just so happen to be done by then.
The rest of the clones I checked just now they suddenly look like theyll be all done in two weeks from friday or for sure will be the 7 day countdown from then.
So ya 10 weeks and 12-13 weeks for the other half. So ya beware it can happen they probably meant clones will finish together if in same envoirment.
The 2x2 and 2x4 clones are pretty similar in finish time but they are very similar enviorments. The 2.5x5 is just so optimal. Mars hydro light.
So yea I can see breeder times are just hard to declare and expect let alone if they really are exaggerating at all. Not even the same clones finish on time and now see literally what they mean by different enviorment.
Not just enviorment but also the plant structure/size, everything! The mom finished in 11 wks but could of been ready at 10 or 10.5 wks.
The rest of the clones I checked just now they suddenly look like theyll be all done in two weeks from friday or for sure will be the 7 day countdown from then.
So ya 10 weeks and 12-13 weeks for the other half. So ya beware it can happen they probably meant clones will finish together if in same envoirment.
The 2x2 and 2x4 clones are pretty similar in finish time but they are very similar enviorments. The 2.5x5 is just so optimal. Mars hydro light.
So yea I can see breeder times are just hard to declare and expect let alone if they really are exaggerating at all. Not even the same clones finish on time and now see literally what they mean by different enviorment.
Not just enviorment but also the plant structure/size, everything! The mom finished in 11 wks but could of been ready at 10 or 10.5 wks.
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medidedicated
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So yea Ill try making the 2x2 plants much smaller see if that helps finish sooner. Il try pruning defol too see if I get nanners seeds like I did last time. Ill find out if I got sensimilla this time which would mean I did great.
The next clones are same size will likely need 12-13 wks unless I prune as small as possible before flip which Im doing anyway but idk if thats small enough. Its already tall from the lack of training and over growing and constant pruning.
I need take cuttings at the very right time and flip at like 3-4 wks. The larger clones 8 so perpetual still makes sense. Hope I can still get about 4 oz a plant in the 2x2s.
The next clones are same size will likely need 12-13 wks unless I prune as small as possible before flip which Im doing anyway but idk if thats small enough. Its already tall from the lack of training and over growing and constant pruning.
I need take cuttings at the very right time and flip at like 3-4 wks. The larger clones 8 so perpetual still makes sense. Hope I can still get about 4 oz a plant in the 2x2s.
medidedicated
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Arrghh 3.25oz per plant in 2x2’s its looking like. Is that even worth perpetuating if the clones only need like a month to veg? My 2.5x5 needs 8 wks so my 3x3 half it is useful.
Would you train an auto to sit in the veg tent in a long narrow 1.5x3’? Idk it just doesnt seem worth it for 7.5oz per 10 wks. Any thoughts hollar!
Would you train an auto to sit in the veg tent in a long narrow 1.5x3’? Idk it just doesnt seem worth it for 7.5oz per 10 wks. Any thoughts hollar!
medidedicated
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Well, its almost half a pound and if I get 14-16oz at a time in the 2.5x5 I aftually am still align with initial plans. I just thought it would be 3-3.5oz per plant so thats a set back. Not if Im only short so much.
medidedicated
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3x3 veg 2.5x5 flower 2x4 flower 2x2 flower 12 square ft each side 24 total. Thats really the best I could think of to do with them.
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if you do hydro it would root a little bit faster
medidedicated
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Oof that was long ago. Yea I disregarded airlayering unless veg time is equal or greater than flower which idk when Ill see that.
Super Shark by 710 genetics didnt stretch at all so maybe for strains like that and it was pretty ripe at like 8-9 weeks. I just didnt like it, no rosin or sift or sift rosin, useless for me.
Its nothing to have a aci dome and mat anywhere in the home and a small tent for bonsai mothers. They actually are good enough to produce cuttings for the whole garden.