Leaf damage? Dtw coco

medidedicated

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Ill check runoff next feeding. I forget to start there. Probably overfed ready to lock out and turn yellow fade like my last solocup plant at 1.1ec. Needs like .7ec many times a day fed I think per one person.

They grew green plants with us at the solocup contest so I think theyre right. It sure is a challenge.
 

twentyeight.threefive

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??? 1L pots 1.8-1.9ec 4x a day. Light too close? I see on lower growth too.
What are you feeding with? How much do you use?

They look incredibly dark, but pictures are best taken with the grow light off and using your camera flash.

Some of the lower leaves look much worse in progression than the upper leaves, do you have pictures of those?

Edit: Where did you notice the leaf issue start? Top, middle, bottom of the plant?
 
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medidedicated

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What are you feeding with? How much do you use?

They look incredibly dark, but pictures are best taken with the grow light off and using your camera flash.

Some of the lower leaves look much worse in progression than the upper leaves, do you have pictures of those?
Good to see ya again! Havent seen you post since I first joined in 22’. Hope life is well.

I feed maxibloom only with pool shock, the basics like ph up and down as needed nothing more.

Hard to get accurate results with ph test drops so I just dont overthink it and just keep a general yellow color and look at it under a couple different lighting.

So mostly 6.0 ph. I cant maintain a meter or dont feel like it. 1.8-1.9 ec 4x a day. Enough to get some runoff not in a flushing manner. Just to do its job.

Ill lit with 28w ACI grow bar lights meant for light supplementing typically side lighting.
 

twentyeight.threefive

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Good to see ya again! Havent seen you post since I first joined in 22’. Hope life is well.

I feed maxibloom only with pool shock, the basics like ph up and down as needed nothing more.

Hard to get accurate results with ph test drops so I just dont overthink it and just keep a general yellow color and look at it under a couple different lighting.

So mostly 6.0 ph. I cant maintain a meter or dont feel like it. 1.8-1.9 ec 4x a day. Enough to get some runoff not in a flushing manner. Just to do its job.

Ill lit with 28w ACI grow bar lights meant for light supplementing typically side lighting.
I saw earlier that you tap water is about 0.5 EC by itself. Is that 1.3-1.4 EC of Maxibloom? How do you measure it out?

I edited the last post probably too late for you to see it. Where on the plant did you notice this leaf condition first? Top, middle, bottom? As it got worst which direction did it go?
 

medidedicated

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I saw earlier that you tap water is about 0.5 EC by itself. Is that 1.3-1.4 EC of Maxibloom? How do you measure it out?

I edited the last post probably too late for you to see it. Where on the plant did you notice this leaf condition first? Top, middle, bottom? As it got worst which direction did it go?
Yea .5ec and then use a ec meter calibrated as needed. 12 large scoops of the scoops it comes with and I blend it to make it dissolve faster so I can ph and pool shock it asap.

That always turns out to 1.8-1.9ec total so about 1.3-1.4 ec maxibloom. I verify with ec meter still.

It started at the top leafs of the colas first but quickly a spot or two in the lower leafs. Few days later its like this so its unfolding quick in top, mid and low leafs.

I never saw this kind of panel by panel decay sometimes skipping a panel on the leaf its weird. About to measure runoff in an hour.
 

medidedicated

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How much water are you mixing the 12 scoops with?

54 gallons tap water with some left over from last fill so basically topping off from old solution of 8-13 gallons.

These the best pics I can get the last ones were from today too. Luckily I cant find more/better spots to show but sure itll keep getting worse.
 

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medidedicated

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Heres my whole garden at that ec and etc. One rez for all. This dresser top tent is for new strains to get a feel for their value and how they grow and eventually fill in a bigger spot if not the whole garden.

I was suggested to up my ec when they got eick at 1.1ec and it worked. A failed pump made me mistakenly drop ec and they all got sick.

Just saying as I was pointed out I be ignoring solid advice I hate that I do that if I do but in all fairness Its because I was too busy already following others.

I hope I quit outright doing that when I should follow but hell thats growing for ya. Any advice is all welcome I just need extra info if to go a whole other direction.

So this round I was gonna keep ec this time and see what it ends like. Then next round run lower ec as Im interested in saving ferts at the least.
 

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medidedicated

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Ive not run plants this small only once and willing to give it its own reservoir. So idk what the hell Im doing with these. I was last suggested lower ec would be better.

I was told ec and pot size not correlated while others said it was and its showing true. From 3gal to 1 gal and 1 gal to 1L.

Same person said they wouldnt be surprised if it works out as is but its not. Its too early too see this ive done better.
 

twentyeight.threefive

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Good to see ya again! Havent seen you post since I first joined in 22’. Hope life is well.

I feed maxibloom only with pool shock, the basics like ph up and down as needed nothing more.

Hard to get accurate results with ph test drops so I just dont overthink it and just keep a general yellow color and look at it under a couple different lighting.

So mostly 6.0 ph. I cant maintain a meter or dont feel like it. 1.8-1.9 ec 4x a day. Enough to get some runoff not in a flushing manner. Just to do its job.

Ill lit with 28w ACI grow bar lights meant for light supplementing typically side lighting.
This is definitely interesting for sure. What's the point of the pool shock in mixing your nutrients?

How much runoff do you get when feeding? Just enough to see some come out or a bit more substantial amount?
 

medidedicated

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3.0 ec runoff. Ec121 I think is their name, they really helped a lot talking about check runoff ec, its solved the issue half the time. I know what that means lol shes cookin in salts!

Feed more often if not work get a bucket feed them seperate lower ec.
 

medidedicated

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This is definitely interesting for sure. What's the point of the pool shock in mixing your nutrients?

How much runoff do you get when feeding? Just enough to see some come out or a bit more substantial amount?
Yea barely enough runoff to even read it lol. Pool shock every 3 days stops it going rancid especially warmer temps.
 

twentyeight.threefive

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3.0 ec runoff. Ec121 I think is their name, they really helped a lot talking about check runoff ec, its solved the issue half the time. I know what that means lol shes cookin in salts!

Feed more often if not work get a bucket feed them seperate lower ec.
Yeah I’d suggest feeding to WAY more runoff. My last run I felt like I drenched the plants every feeding and this is what the roots looked like after chop. Looks like salt deposits at the ends of all the root tips.

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Edit: Also I probably let it dry back WAY more than I should have too.
 

medidedicated

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Yeah I’d suggest feeding to WAY more runoff. My last run I felt like I drenched the plants every feeding and this is what the roots looked like after chop. Looks like salt deposits at the ends of all the root tips.

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Edit: Also I probably let it dry back WAY more than I should have too.
Nice. Yea theres my last runs root ball. I fed it 8x a day and had enough runoff, the runoff ec was pretty much the same as inflowing. Part of why I didnt think I was over feeding too much.

Seeing if my plants can end with burnt tips/ridges a little bit instead of clear deficiencies. I suspect I would if I dropped ec, ever since going to 1 gallon. Its trial and error with these things though so just my speculation so far.
 

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twentyeight.threefive

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Nice. Yea theres my last runs root ball. I fed it 8x a day and had enough runoff, the runoff ec was pretty much the same as inflowing. Part of why I didnt think I was over feeding too much.

Seeing if my plants can end with burnt tips/ridges a little bit instead of clear deficiencies. I suspect I would if I dropped ec, ever since going to 1 gallon. Its trial and error with these things though so just my speculation so far.
Absolutely gorgeous. You can tell you didn't let them dry back like I did. Plain old handwatering here. lol
 
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