conor c
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Ok bud no offence was intended
Matrix Reloaded/Silo Grow Method
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Sedan
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And I apologize for calling you English!))))))))))))))))
Bro, I don't need to read, I've already read, don't worry!))
conor c
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It's all one bud don't worry about it
Sedan
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William Wallace - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
simple.wikipedia.org
Sedan
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Seriously, Bro, your country is restless, it can flare up at any moment. Ireland is restless too. It's like a sleeping volcano, sooner or later it will come out. Because you have a split in society... You say that it is a single bud, but I heard the Scots, for whom Wallace is a hero... You have a split in society too.
conor c
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Aye good film not very historically accurate like the battle of Stirling bridge had no bridge also the date at the start was wrong and some other stuff but it's still good messed up ending but that's about right they still can't decide where Wallace was from as there's two good contenders that claim him as there own aye here has problems too same as everywhere bud no where is perfect
Sedan
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It was mostly a joke, I'm not calling you to revolution))
Yes, I know that Hollywood has very little in common with reality. But the film is really good, I didn't expect Gibson to be a director.
Sedan
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)) 13th century.. Bro, where can there be reliable information there? Historiography is a living science, very soon you will hear a lot of new things from this...
Sedan
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If you'll allow me, I'll give you a little training in historiography.
I'll show you how I work with historical materials to understand what really happened.
Here I'm going to give you some facts. We won't go far and deep, we'll keep it simple. English wikipedia (this is not propaganda)))
Look through it all and draw your own conclusions.
*********************
You're familiar with it
Crimean War - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
We go further back in time
Crimean journey of Catherine the Great - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
farther
Russo-Crimean Wars - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
deeper
Crimean Khanate - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
I could go on and on, but this is already deep antiquity. There were Byzantines and Romans there too. You've probably heard of the ancient Greek legend of Jason, the Argonauts and the Golden Fleece. That was several thousand years ago. Jasson docked on the coast of Crimea back then, and that's where he found the Golden Fleece. Then there was formed a Greek colony and the City of Chersonesos (not to be confused with Kherson), Chersonesos was located where Sevostopol is now.
Crimea has a very ancient... very ancient history, for these thousands of years there were many, very... and the Mongol-Tatars were there. and the Ottoman Empire, and Byzantium and Ancient Rome. In the end, Russia, not at the first attempt, still won Crimea for itself. Although, as we know, the Turks with the help of the British and French tried to take back the Crimea, but they failed, although Russia was defeated in that war, the Crimea remained for her. For this Crimea Russia spilled a lot of blood for several centuries to conquer Crimea.
And finally, the climax.
Transfer of Crimea to Ukraine - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
If you read everything carefully, what is the very first thought that comes to your mind? Be honest, please.
I can tell you my opinion: the assholes were given a Ferrari, and they drove it across a plowed field... in the end, they will never see the Ferrari or the harvest again.
In '14 I was very much worried, I even cried that I would never see my Crimea again... warm tender sea... childhood memories... it's all very sad, Bro! Very sad!!!
As for folk heroes like Wallace, the images of them have been very much romanticized over the years, turned these heroes into saints. I see a Scottish feudal lord there who was turned into a vassal by the English, he didn't go along with it and started fighting for...no not “Freedom”...no, he was fighting for his property and his land. His troops were the ones who worked his land for a penny-- they were the ones who fought the war for the most part, not him. He wasn't white and fluffy, he was just like everybody else. Violent, aggressive and savage. Our historiography is full of such “holy” characters. You read carefully their biography... and the hair moves... on your back.)))))))
People tend to romanticize everything - it's a fact.))
Also, people can't live without wars, because they will die out. War is the engine of progress, and also restrains overpopulation of the earth, as well as natural disasters and all kinds of catastrophes. If it were not for all these, the earth would have been overpopulated long ago.
Sedan
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I'll flesh out my story a bit by talking about one of the landmark battles of the Crimean War. It was the Battle of Balaclava.
How it all went down:
The battle, which went down in history under the name of Balaklava, took place on October 13 (25), 1854.
Sixteen thousand Russian soldiers moved from the village of Chorgun (modern Chernorechye) to Balaklava.
On Semyakinnye heights they seized the English redoubts, on which the Turkish troops were serving.
Occupying these fortifications, seizing the fortress cannons, the Russian command achieved a tactical success: Balaklava was in the crosshairs of Russian cannons.
The commander-in-chief of the British troops Lord Raglan gives the infamous order-“...Lord Raglan wants the cavalry to quickly go on the offensive against the enemy in front of it and did not allow him to take back the cannons”. As we can see the lord was an inept military commander, with virtually no experience of warfare. Unable to assess the situation on the battlefield, he authorized a cavalry attack under the crossfire of Russian guns. The cavalry avalanche of attackers was shelled by Russian artillery from the Fedyukhin Heights (left) and the newly captured English redoubts (right). And Russian cavalry rushed at the English at point-blank range - from the side of the Dry River. The English began to retreat. Hundreds of killed and wounded were left lying on the trampled field. From a complete defeat of the English cavalry was saved only by the French help. The death of the light cavalry brigade was especially tragic due to the fact that it was composed of scions of the most noble families of Britain. Balaklava valley was flooded with “blue blood” of the British aristocracy. The British called this day “disaster unsurpassed in history”, So ended the Battle of Balaklava, Success was on the side of the Russians, However, later captured redoubts Russian left, and the main task - the liberation of Balaklava was not solved.
Do you know what that monument is and where it is?)))))
It's a monument to the British soldiers who died at the Battle of Balaclava, erected by the British, it's on the site of the battle in the Crimea. You see, nobody broke it, nobody desecrated it! I told you before, it's right to respect your enemy.
In 1945, the Death Valley near Balaklava was visited by Winston Churchill, the head of the British government. He laid flowers at the obelisk where one of his distinguished blood relatives, the Earl of Marlborough, died.
You probably didn't know, but after that battle, the phrase “cannon fodder” entered the world's military parlance. You know who it's in honor of.
How it all went down:
The battle, which went down in history under the name of Balaklava, took place on October 13 (25), 1854.
Sixteen thousand Russian soldiers moved from the village of Chorgun (modern Chernorechye) to Balaklava.
On Semyakinnye heights they seized the English redoubts, on which the Turkish troops were serving.
Occupying these fortifications, seizing the fortress cannons, the Russian command achieved a tactical success: Balaklava was in the crosshairs of Russian cannons.
The commander-in-chief of the British troops Lord Raglan gives the infamous order-“...Lord Raglan wants the cavalry to quickly go on the offensive against the enemy in front of it and did not allow him to take back the cannons”. As we can see the lord was an inept military commander, with virtually no experience of warfare. Unable to assess the situation on the battlefield, he authorized a cavalry attack under the crossfire of Russian guns. The cavalry avalanche of attackers was shelled by Russian artillery from the Fedyukhin Heights (left) and the newly captured English redoubts (right). And Russian cavalry rushed at the English at point-blank range - from the side of the Dry River. The English began to retreat. Hundreds of killed and wounded were left lying on the trampled field. From a complete defeat of the English cavalry was saved only by the French help. The death of the light cavalry brigade was especially tragic due to the fact that it was composed of scions of the most noble families of Britain. Balaklava valley was flooded with “blue blood” of the British aristocracy. The British called this day “disaster unsurpassed in history”, So ended the Battle of Balaklava, Success was on the side of the Russians, However, later captured redoubts Russian left, and the main task - the liberation of Balaklava was not solved.
Do you know what that monument is and where it is?)))))
It's a monument to the British soldiers who died at the Battle of Balaclava, erected by the British, it's on the site of the battle in the Crimea. You see, nobody broke it, nobody desecrated it! I told you before, it's right to respect your enemy.
In 1945, the Death Valley near Balaklava was visited by Winston Churchill, the head of the British government. He laid flowers at the obelisk where one of his distinguished blood relatives, the Earl of Marlborough, died.
You probably didn't know, but after that battle, the phrase “cannon fodder” entered the world's military parlance. You know who it's in honor of.
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Sedan
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British Army soldiers during the Crimean War were freezing so hard near the town of Balaclava that they invented a knitted hat and named it after the town. The winter of 1854-1855 was very cold, and most of the British troops did not receive winter uniforms, accommodation and food in time[1].
MissinThe90’sStrains
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@Sedan, this famous poem was written about that famous decision in Balaklava: “The charge of the light brigade”
www.poetryfoundation.org
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The Charge of the Light Brigade
I Half a league, half a league, Half a league onward, All in the valley of Death Rode the six hundred. III Cannon to right of them, Cannon to left of them, Cannon in front of them Volleyed and thundered; Stormed at with shot and shell, Boldly they rode and well, Into the jaws of Death, Into the…
Charge of the Light Brigade - Wikipedia
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Sedan
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Bombshell, Breaux!@Sedan, this famous poem was written about that famous decision in Balaklava: “The charge of the light brigade”
The Charge of the Light Brigade
I Half a league, half a league, Half a league onward, All in the valley of Death Rode the six hundred. III Cannon to right of them, Cannon to left of them, Cannon in front of them Volleyed and thundered; Stormed at with shot and shell, Boldly they rode and well, Into the jaws of Death, Into the…
.Charge of the Light Brigade - Wikipedia
That's the first time I've heard that, thank you!
conor c
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Obviously folk heroes are romanticised however you have to understand the whole divide and conquer works well with traitors in the mix even better that's the problem over here imo one thing that I don't get about Crimea is you guys got restrictions on cannabis still yet you guys have places where ruderal cannabis exists? Like that's a treasure I wish more countries realised what they got and it's value before it's extinct through hybridisationIf you'll allow me, I'll give you a little training in historiography.
I'll show you how I work with historical materials to understand what really happened.
Here I'm going to give you some facts. We won't go far and deep, we'll keep it simple. English wikipedia (this is not propaganda)))
Look through it all and draw your own conclusions.
*********************
You're familiar with it
Crimean War - Wikipedia
We go further back in time
Crimean journey of Catherine the Great - Wikipedia
farther
Russo-Crimean Wars - Wikipedia
deeper
Crimean Khanate - Wikipedia
I could go on and on, but this is already deep antiquity. There were Byzantines and Romans there too. You've probably heard of the ancient Greek legend of Jason, the Argonauts and the Golden Fleece. That was several thousand years ago. Jasson docked on the coast of Crimea back then, and that's where he found the Golden Fleece. Then there was formed a Greek colony and the City of Chersonesos (not to be confused with Kherson), Chersonesos was located where Sevostopol is now.
Crimea has a very ancient... very ancient history, for these thousands of years there were many, very... and the Mongol-Tatars were there. and the Ottoman Empire, and Byzantium and Ancient Rome. In the end, Russia, not at the first attempt, still won Crimea for itself. Although, as we know, the Turks with the help of the British and French tried to take back the Crimea, but they failed, although Russia was defeated in that war, the Crimea remained for her. For this Crimea Russia spilled a lot of blood for several centuries to conquer Crimea.
And finally, the climax.
.Transfer of Crimea to Ukraine - Wikipedia
If you read everything carefully, what is the very first thought that comes to your mind? Be honest, please.
I can tell you my opinion: the assholes were given a Ferrari, and they drove it across a plowed field... in the end, they will never see the Ferrari or the harvest again.
In '14 I was very much worried, I even cried that I would never see my Crimea again... warm tender sea... childhood memories... it's all very sad, Bro! Very sad!!!
As for folk heroes like Wallace, the images of them have been very much romanticized over the years, turned these heroes into saints. I see a Scottish feudal lord there who was turned into a vassal by the English, he didn't go along with it and started fighting for...no not “Freedom”...no, he was fighting for his property and his land. His troops were the ones who worked his land for a penny-- they were the ones who fought the war for the most part, not him. He wasn't white and fluffy, he was just like everybody else. Violent, aggressive and savage. Our historiography is full of such “holy” characters. You read carefully their biography... and the hair moves... on your back.)))))))
People tend to romanticize everything - it's a fact.))
Also, people can't live without wars, because they will die out. War is the engine of progress, and also restrains overpopulation of the earth, as well as natural disasters and all kinds of catastrophes. If it were not for all these, the earth would have been overpopulated long ago.