What to use to make them fatter {pics}

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i was wondering what I can use to get these girls fatter. This is my 2nd grow with seeds and I am now on day 46 and they arent bulky like I expected them to be, and suggestion on how to get them bigger ??

P.S. I am using foxfarms soil w/ advanced nutrients, big bud, voodoo juice, sensizym
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codwalop

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somethings definately not right there, what sort of seeds are you using, are any of them fat like you would expect? just wondering if its a bad strain or something

theres alot of leaf discoloration, hows the ph & ec? they could be somewhat locked up
 
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How long has this problem been going on? for the last 2 weeks
What STRAIN are you growing? mendo madness, hawaiian purple wreck, wonderberry, dj shorts
What was the establishing technique? (seed or clone?) seed {from a dispensary
What is the age of your plants? day 46
How long have they been in the soil mixture they are in now? since they got transplanted
How Tall are the plants? between 7 inches and 5 ft.
What PHASE (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in? flowering 2-3 weeks left
What Technique are you using? (SOG, SCROG etc) no sog or scrog
What size pots are you using? (Include how many subjects to pot) 5 gallon
What substrate/medium are you using? What brand of soil mixture are you using?(percentage of perlite, vermiculite...etc?)foxfarms ocean forest w/perlite and vermiculite
What Nutrient's are you using? advanced nutrients
How much of each nutrient are you using with how much water? *Knowing the brand is very helpful* in a 150 gallon reservoir, mixing 1 cup per
How often are you feeding? every 5 days
If flowering, when did you switch over to using Bloom nutrients? week 4 flower
What order are you mixing your nutrients? (example: veg nutes 1st, bloom 2nd ect) advanced nutients, then big bud, then sensizym.
What is the TDS/EC/PPM of your nutrients used? 700ppm
What is the pH of the "RUN-OFF"? 6.5
What method of pH test was administered? Using Strips? pH pen? ph tester
How often are you watering? every 2 feeding i give just water
When was your last feeding and how often are you feeding? fed them only molasses this time around but i want to start pumping them these last 2 weeks.
What size bulb are you using? 1000 watt hps
What is the distance to the canopy? 3 feet, cuz i was getting heavy burning the the tips of the leaves
What is your RH Factor? (Relative Humidity) 42
What is the canopy temperature? 75-80 w/ co2 generator
What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include fluctuation range) 65
What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.) 1 fan to every light plus air mover on every row.
Tell us about your ventilation, intake exhaust and when its running and not running ? no intake no exhaust but i do crack the door and blow stale air out during the night hours
Is the fan blowing directly at plants? they were but now they are directed over the plants to cause less burning
Is the grow substrate constantly wet or moist? no
Is your water HARD or SOFT? tap water but charcoal filtered
What water are you using? Reverse Osmosis (RO)? Tap? Bottled? Well water? Distilled? Mineral Water? tap water but charcoal filtered
Are you using water from a water softener? no
Has plant been recently pruned, cloned or pinched? no
Have any pest chemicals been used? If so what and when? no
Are plant's infected with pest's? no
 
codwalop

codwalop

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the discoloration is right there in front of you, it has to be PH and EC based, is advanced nutrients even suitable for soil?

and you can have your nutrients right all the time, but if the ph is out nothings going to work properly

are you using the right nutes for the type of water you're using?
 
tinyTURTLE

tinyTURTLE

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yeah. considering the nutes you are using and the obvious mag deficiency it is one of/or two things... check your ph (check the runoff when you water, check your tap water PH). runoff should be 6.5ish
if your PH is good, then it is a toxicity causing nute lockout. flush and water with just water to see if it corrects.
 
codwalop

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he mentioned his ph runoff is around 6.5, which is a tiny bit high but shouldnt be causing issues like what he's having

im wondering if he's using hydro nutes for soil, and maybe even using software nutes with tapwater etc..
 
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Im not having nute lockup, i didnt feed them until week 4 flower so that cant be it. Advanced nutrients is for soil, just so you know, its sensi bloom part A & B. That for soil, so please stop saying my nutes are for hydro. I think I am smart enough to purchase the right nutes. This the first time I am using tap water filtered through a charcoal filter so that might be it but I do have an osmosis system I just havent installed it yet.
 
sugaryDAVE

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dude i might just be to high but im mostly right wen im high i read your thread and i just think u should have had those lights alot closer to the plants since the bigining those are kinda stretched buds, so all u can do now since u only have a week or two left, just wait and let them do what they do, wen ever somthing is wrong the plant will tell u and ue plant looks healthy but a bit streched so the only thing i can tell u is light have to be as close as they posiblycan to get fat buds man,
 
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