SOG growers wanted !!!

[Return of the Spork]

I used to have my mothers under a 400MH, but now converted that cabinet into my second flowering cabinet. The Mother chamber is still in construction but I didn't want to deal with the heat and cooltube venting and whatnot. My grow is smaller, yet very complicated as I have to pretty much fabricate everything to specific dimensions. Thats why I went with the t-5's. Better footprint and while not cold runnning, cooler running than the MH. My clone production just completely stopped when I moved them under a T-12, of course that has a lot to do with their distance from it.

I think I am going to flush whatever can fit into my new trays (different pot size) and throw the rest with the big momma that is starting week 5. Harvest both and see I guess.

 

[GypsyBush]

Hey Spork.... You too...!!! lol...

Anyways... I am one of those people that should really just keep quiet and not say much...

But I can't help it... sometimes I have oral diarrhea...

Here is a thread that had some good points (in my silly opinion)... but some of them were made by me... so... take it with a grain of salt...

Last week Water only??

Here is the part that I like...

So, What is everyones take on the last few weeks before harvest in an Ebb&Flow? Should you flush the plants and then let them run with just water or change the nut levels?

The only reason for flushing during the last week or so is to get rid of any "excess" nutes left in the plant. If you are providing the proper amount of nutrients, there should be no reason to flush in a hydro system. Flushing is really only necessary when growing in soil, because the nutrients will accumulate in the medium, requiring the flush. If you are properly feeding your girls in a hydro system, flushing isn't necessary.

Your yield will suffer. The last 2 weeks is when they really put the weight on. Like I said earlier, if you aren't over feeding them, you don't need to flush. Flushing is strictly for getting rid of excess nutes.

It's funny... I have always had that thought... why starve it before harvest...???

I have a buddy... he is awesome... really knows his shit... to the point where he won't really just smoke anything, anyone puts on the table....

Usually he only smokes his own, because he knows what's in it... that it was FLUSHED!!!!

He is so finicky about flushing.... "oh only ten days?????? it's ok! I'll pass, I flushed mine right...!!!!"

So today he comes by.... I show him the jars from my tent harvest (4 strains) ...

He picks one up and says..." My oh My !!! that looks frosty!!! can we try some?"

So I replied by loading the bowl he likes and handing him a freshie....

"Oh Man....!!! This so smooth... so crystally.... aren't you glad you learned to flush correctly??? this would be so harsh to smoke right now... I can tell you did the proper flush I showed you...."

Guess what????

IT WASN'T FLUSHED AT ALL......

IN FACT... IT HAD 1400 PPM AND WAS FLOODED JUST MINUTES BEFORE HARVEST.... THE STEMS CRIED....

But that plant NEVER had ANY nute burn.... it was never over fed.... it was dried properly and is curing now, but even with just a few days of cure....no harshness.. AT ALL....

I don't want any stress in my plants at any point.... especially when they are working the hardest to put on the weight....

I agree there is a place for flushing, but it is not in EVERY harvest of every type....

Agreed. I have it on good authority from people who know a lot more about growing than I probably ever will that buds pack on 25% of their total weight those last 2 weeks. Why starve the plant of the nutrients it needs during this critical time? If you weren't over-nuteing in the first place (unless grown in soil) there isn't a reason to flush.

 

[livesoul]

very good to know, i wasn't going to flush because my setup doesn't allow. I'm going to have my 1st week flowering clones in the same tray as my 8 week plants. So i heard it wasn't necessary, but good to know it makes no difference.

 

[GypsyBush]

very good to know it makes no difference.

I really hope you didn't come to that conclusion solely based on my input...

Feel free to listen to all these other guys...

But I would be very suspicious of anything that comes out of my mouth...

I like to talk a lot and don't know shit... so .. there... you have been warned...

The Gypsy remains fair...

 

[livesoul]

yeah well i'm going to pretend that you know what the hell your talking about so that i don't have to worry about flushing since i can't anyways!

 

[onthedl0008]

Just $0.02...Havent never noticed much of a difference flushing or not.. However I always normally have cause people said it was the best thing to do.. Ive heard it's really kinda a taste prefference thing in the end..I use organics so mine always taste good.. But This time around I went str8 to cut without flush. I think this greatly induced my yield..Those last few 2-3 weeks made my buds swell beyond control. But then again. This is the first time i actually chopped using a scope as well. I think its a good thing to allow ur plants the nutrients they need during growth stage..THen once u get ur desired trichs maybe flush 2-3 days for taste..Dont cheat the bud it makes a huge difference.

 

[Return of the Spork]

I think since my grow isn't dialed down nutrient wise that I could benefit from a flush, but not necessarily two weeks worth. I will do a 2 week flush on half and take the other half to the end with nutes.

 

[GypsyBush]

This is an update by GypsyBush

Maintaining with Gypsy tradition, I have decided not to have a fixed journal...

My grow journal has taken a nomadic form, and you will find me pestering good folk everywhere with my non-sense and unsolicited BS...

Do not be surprised if you see this in more than one place... us gypsies are strange sometimes...



So I haven't posted much for pictures in a while...
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The op has grown from an Aerogarden to something.. more....

Even the tent has been relegated to cloning station...

So.... I'll start with the bud that I am smoking as I type this...
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Now.. here is a shot of the girls about ready for the guillotine ...

Group Shot!!!

Now we we'll take a peek at the individually...

I'll try to keep them in order...

Can you stand looking at them anymore????

the whole group again???

Here is the next generation...

Now here we see two very distinct types of bud formation...

The Stive is pure hair, while the Indica already has massive swollen calyxes...

Couldn't help to share this Gem from the miniatures tray... these are almost ready as well....

A Watermelon leaf spreads the good message....

and a Sunflower sheds a tear for my absence and pain...

and so this update comes to a close...

I will leave you with the view I had of the op as I went back to bed for a few more days....

Hope you enjoyed it....

Cheers...

Gypsy....

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[sparkafire]

This is an update by GypsyBush

Maintaining with Gypsy tradition, I have decided not to have a fixed journal...
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Thank GOD!!!! LOL

GB Your grow is the most intriguing of all the posters here on this thread. Very interesting. You grow great little people buds are you a little person?

 

[GypsyBush]

GB Your grow is the most intriguing of all the posters here on this thread. Very interesting. You grow great little people buds are you a little person?

Thanks Sparks... I think... ... lol...

Why is it so unusual???

I started small and I am working my way up.... to a full size SOG OP....

I just didn't feel like spending six grand to see if I had a nack for these plants...

So I started small... withthe AG... got 1.2 Oz much to the surprise of a few experienced growers...

So I built the tent... just harvested a little over a QP from it.. and it is now being outfitted as a cloning station with 2x 2 foot 4 bulb HO T-5...

and the flowering area has grown into the flood tables...

It seems like a very logical progression of events, with very little to no equipment wasted... and very high success rate....

Now, I must admit I have a thing for miniatures... and those small buds are sooooo cool .... I can't help to make a few every batch.... I keep them in the poorest light and just love to give them as gifts, buds with roots...

My friends love them...

As for me being a little person...

No... I am not small in any sense of the word....

Sometimes when people see me for the first time in the wilderness in wintertime... they think they are seeing the Abominable Snow Man.. but it's just that I wear a white coat... silly people...

Here is a few pictures of me before I broke my leg.... getting ready for a day's work outside at -45F...lol.... Oh! and I am not fat, I have 8" of insulation over my skin... yeah 8"... all day outside @ -45...lol...

 

[sparkafire]

Thanks Sparks... I think... ... lol...

Why is it so unusual???

Its just cool!!

I started small and I am working my way up.... to a full size SOG OP....

For someone that lives at the north pole you have a green thumb that's for sure

I just didn't feel like spending six grand to see if I had a nack for these plants...

Tell me about it!!

So I started small... withthe AG... got 1.2 Oz much to the surprise of a few experienced growers...

I always knew you could do it. Although bugs was laughing his ass off behind your back. Fucker


I

t seems like a very logical progression of events, with very little to no equipment wasted... and very high success rate....

Yes you have!!

Now, I must admit I have a thing for miniatures... and those small buds are sooooo cool .... I can't help to make a few every batch.... I keep them in the poorest light and just love to give them as gifts, buds with roots...

My friends love them...

Coolest thing i have seen on the site. Although bugs fire pics would have been right up there.

As for me being a little person...

No... I am not small in any sense of the word....

Sometimes when people see me for the first time in the wilderness in wintertime... they think they are seeing the Abominable Snow Man.. but it's just that I wear a white coat... silly people...

Uh Yea i can see that

Here is a few pictures of me before I broke my leg.... getting ready for a day's work outside at -45F...lol.... Oh! and I am not fat, I have 8" of insulation over my skin... yeah 8"... all day outside @ -45...lol...

WHY????? Why would you do that??

 

[GypsyBush]

Its just cool!!

Well THANKS!

For someone that lives at the north pole you have a green thumb that's for sure

LOL... I just really enjoy being around plants and animals... that is why I like living in the wilderness so much..

I always knew you could do it. Although bugs was laughing his ass off behind your back. Fucker

I love it when people underestimate me...

Oh look at that fucking dirty hippie... and then when we get in the plane I"M THE CAPTAIN...LOL....

As for Bugs... he is special.... I love him... and there is just absolutely nothing in the world that bugs could say or do that would make me get mad at him...

I guess I am just that easily amused... Plus I wanna see some more pictures of his mom...

Coolest thing i have seen on the site. Although bugs fire pics would have been right up there.

Biggest waste of time too... but oh well... at least someone is having fun....lol..

WHY????? Why would you do that??

I couldn't begin to explain to you how much I love the Arctic Wilderness...

I have been out camping without heaters at -57F... and I have never been cold... well a time or two... usually involving getting wet in sub-zero... but ...

I just love it out here... zero tolerance for bullshit....

none...

zero tolerance for fuckups...

it's as it used to be... the strong will survive... the rest will perish....

I'll quote from a song... very accurate...

"The Last Place on Earth

by Michael Faubion

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]I thought the horizon would swallow me whole,
Thought the wind-chill would tear off my face.
Where existence itself is defined by the cold,
You can find yourself frozen in place.
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Thawed out in mud-time, my eyes on the boats,
Fish-grease and fuel oil perfume.
Turned green on a weekend; it’s Spring’s brief revolt
When the sun steals the sky from the moon.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]It’s stranger than fiction, it’s sadder than hell;
There’s no way to judge what it’s worth.
It’s past the last highway, across the lost hills.
My God, it’s The Last Place on Earth.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]It’s the Last Place on Earth I expected to be
Believing in better or worse.
Old friends quit asking what’s becoming of me,
They wouldn’t look in The Last Place on Earth.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]It’s stranger than fiction, it’s sadder than hell,
There’s no way to judge what it’s worth.
It’s past the last highway, across the lost hills,
My God, it’s The Last Place on Earth.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]It’s the home of the raven, where daytime is dark,
Where death takes its toll on rebirth.
The mystical journey, swan flight of the heart
Flutters down in the Last Place on Earth.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]It’s stranger than fiction, it’s sadder than hell,
There’s no way to judge what it’s worth.
It’s past the last highway, across the lost hills,
My God, it’s The Last Place on Earth."[/FONT]
[/FONT]

Nice Pics.... I grew up surfing the south American Atlantic... still visit often... great for vacations...

But I live in a special place... it's my own world... but it's ok cause everyone knows me here...lol...

 

[grandpabear3]

you two need a room. and sparky, stop it. i said nooooo such things about that damn dirty hippie. i had no idea he was so big and burly though....kinda reminds me of ol tyrone back on e block. you are both a couple of turds. good day/night. i'm back on night shift now. just did the 1st night ....gonna knock out now.


bitches

 

[Return of the Spork]

I just gotta say.... <3 Volcano

 

[grandpabear3]

i want one sooooo bad. but i'm just a poor farmer. the high from that contraption is incomparable. top notch.

 

[GypsyBush]

you two need a room. and sparky, stop it. i said nooooo such things about that damn dirty hippie. i had no idea he was so big and burly though....kinda reminds me of ol tyrone back on e block. you are both a couple of turds. good day/night. i'm back on night shift now. just did the 1st night ....gonna knock out now.


bitches

what if I like it in public?

and Bugs.. I am way more secure than that... even if you did say something... it's ok...

But I'll tell you what.. in the kind of moods I have been in lately... I'd hate to come across myself behind a snow drift in the dark...

Turd?

Dude what did I do to you... I am always so calm and composed... I am not a turd... and neither is Sparks...

All that anger...

so not healthy

I just gotta say.... <3 Volcano

i want one sooooo bad. but i'm just a poor farmer. the high from that contraption is incomparable. top notch.

I want one too...

I tried one a few years ago and it made the dank in the bong taste like ass...

Don't get me wrong.. I like ass and tits and pussy as much as the next guy... but when it comes to my buds...

I rather taste sweet sensi too....lol....


Now...Bugs... and every one else...

what kind of spacing do you guys use between the pots?

I am cramming as many as I can fit... giving each girl the diameter of the pot for personal space...

a little tight huh?

But that has been my reasoning in flowering them just a tad smaller than most...

What say you?

 

[Return of the Spork]

I don't have the "experience" that bugs has had, but just the pot for personal space is working fine for me.

 

[GypsyBush]

Thanks Spork...!

What sizes do you aim for in/out of flower?

Uh... everyone else feel free to throw their numbers in...

I still have zero stability...

some of mine are tall some are short...

2 weeks is up and I do not have more clones to feed the system...

This shit is getting old...

I cannot get out of bed... I need supplies.. fuck I need clones...

Ahhh...!!!!

Stressful day at the house of Gypsy.... all the shit that needs to be done is starting to collapse around me and I get to lay in bed and watch my world slide on by..... like I was some kinda lazy fuck.... fucking leg....

oh Well.. time to reload the pipe...

Yeah.. I'm fucking amused today....

Any of you ever watch Dexter? I just got seasons one and 2...

Season one disc 2 starts now...

 

[onthedl0008]

Thanks Spork...!

What sizes do you aim for in/out of flower?

Uh... everyone else feel free to throw their numbers in...

I still have zero stability...

some of mine are tall some are short...

2 weeks is up and I do not have more clones to feed the system...

This shit is getting old...

I cannot get out of bed... I need supplies.. fuck I need clones...

Ahhh...!!!!

Stressful day at the house of Gypsy.... all the shit that needs to be done is starting to collapse around me and I get to lay in bed and watch my world slide on by..... like I was some kinda lazy fuck.... fucking leg....

oh Well.. time to reload the pipe...

Yeah.. I'm fucking amused today....

Any of you ever watch Dexter? I just got seasons one and 2...

Season one disc 2 starts now...

Eh gypsy dexter is bad ace..Havent been following much lately but gotta get caught back up on that..
I clicked on that crazy red box awhile back that leg looked insane man but u did warn us..
I think it all depends on final harvest size when it comes down to figuring what kinda hieghts ur ur trying to achieve in veg..Correct me if im wrong man. But Bugs and sparks actually schooled me to a bunch of this..
For instance mine grow similarly to bugs.. Start at 5-7 inches tops..as soon as they develope roots I put them in the flower room and let them blast off insanely. 20-24 inch main colas end harvest its kinda crazy.
Im sure that if i was working with a lower growing strain this would change my veg size and time of veg but..This strain kinda fits what im looking for either way..Just had to up my lights to handle these beasts..
I dont think id much like a smaller lower yielding strain in this set-up.
Perpetual sog is tight man..
nice bud pixels anyways man what kinda strains u working with and how many watts u have over um?

 

[GypsyBush]

yuo start at 5" and end up at 25"????

Wow...! that's a lot....!!!

Good.. I guess...

Sounds too tall for dense bottom, but what do I know?

people think I grow plants for midgets.... lol...

Uh the only one I know for a fact what it is is the smallest of them all....

That is the last survivor of the Juicy Fruit Clan.... which I failed to perpetuate.. and am still hating myself for it because it tastes soooooooo fucking yummy it's not even funny.....

the others are clones or sees I have picked up out here in the Great Land... (that's Alaska if you didn't know)

AAs for set up...

3x 4x4 trays...

3x aircooled 600 HPS

100 gal res just over half full

what did I misss...