b0bdyl4n420
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couldnt agree more
Christianity has been debunked once and for all
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poplars
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so your life is talking about jesus and watching videos.Heres some more vids
(The Corporation)
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=corporation&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wv#
(Empire of the city)
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Empire+of+the+City&emb=0&aq=-1&oq=#
you're awesome.
trishmybiscuits
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Until proven otherwise, there is no real god! I would think that that would be obvious.
Originally Posted by GordonFreeman 
well now i just really want to hear your story, please do share jesus man
I "came out" on 9-16-08. I was smoking lots of "virgin Mary J" and I started "putting the pieces together" about a month prior to this date.
Christianity has been debunked once and for all
"My name is George Manuel Oliveira.
My name means - Farmer / with us is God / olive tree. (There are different varients though, Manuel also means "God with Us" so George Manuel also means "Farmer God with Us".
My DOB- 8-14-1985 I'm a Leo and 85 is the year of the bull.
I just realized these things about a month ago (this was 9-16-08 ) . I have an amazing story to tell.. Believe this!
What are my initials?........ GMO...... Whats GMO backwards?
What does that stand for? O.M.G., O My God."
(Flash flood turning water RED as blood)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ii0euH1yWX8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=605_5Q5YMY0&feature=related
This happened during a time of fasting.
http://www.endofage.com/
"The majority opinion currently is that there will be another period of 42 months (of 30 days) before the beginning of the reign of the beast to make a total tribulation period of 7 years (of 360 days). Counting back another 1260 days from 4/11/2012 for a total of 7 360-day years brings us to 10/29/2008. One should then expect the Rapture to be on or before this date. However, the majority may be off 30 days in that the tribulation starts on 9/29/2008 with the rapture on 10/29/2008 to fulfill II Thessalonians 2:3 which speaks of the day of the Lord, taken as being the Rapture happening after the man of lawlessness being revealed."
As I said, "I "came out" on 9-16-08." Notice how close the date is.
Revelation 14:13-15
"14And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle. "
True story. I actually saw God in the clouds. His head was lit up by the Sun. There was a line across His chest, that I believe to be the sickle. It was so vivid, I could see His wavy hair and it was perfect timing. I just so happened to park at a place I used to scuba dive for shellfish and looked up and there He was. It was picture perfect.
If You read the "Parable of the Sower" from the Bible, You'll realize that both Mattew and Mark tell the tale but the numbers are ordered as seen below.
Matthew has a descending sequence (100-60-30) 63. Mark presents the yield of grain in ascending order (30-60-100) 36;
The first time I ever grew Herb was at 63 Pine st. when I was in jr high school but My dad pulled the plants out of the garden. The second time I grew was at 36 Aroostook and I got a yield because it was indoors at My house. Both houses were at the top of a hill.
"4Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy: for all nations shall come and worship before thee; for thy judgments are made manifest."
And I figured out the world. Check this out - Viva la REVOLUTION!
Another funny thing is that My X fiance, her initials were going to be the same as mine if We got married. Almost as if she were My Eve. About the same time she broke up with Me I found out that I'm the Savior of the world. Ever noticed how its says "IN RI" on top of the cross? My heart was broken IN RI (in Rhode Island), where I was crucified with Christ.
Can I get a witness?
The REVOLUTION has begun!
RON PAUL REVOLUTION
~PEACE~
well now i just really want to hear your story, please do share jesus man
I "came out" on 9-16-08. I was smoking lots of "virgin Mary J" and I started "putting the pieces together" about a month prior to this date.
Christianity has been debunked once and for all
"My name is George Manuel Oliveira.
My name means - Farmer / with us is God / olive tree. (There are different varients though, Manuel also means "God with Us" so George Manuel also means "Farmer God with Us".
My DOB- 8-14-1985 I'm a Leo and 85 is the year of the bull.
I just realized these things about a month ago (this was 9-16-08 ) . I have an amazing story to tell.. Believe this!
What are my initials?........ GMO...... Whats GMO backwards?
What does that stand for? O.M.G., O My God."
(Flash flood turning water RED as blood)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ii0euH1yWX8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=605_5Q5YMY0&feature=related
This happened during a time of fasting.
http://www.endofage.com/
"The majority opinion currently is that there will be another period of 42 months (of 30 days) before the beginning of the reign of the beast to make a total tribulation period of 7 years (of 360 days). Counting back another 1260 days from 4/11/2012 for a total of 7 360-day years brings us to 10/29/2008. One should then expect the Rapture to be on or before this date. However, the majority may be off 30 days in that the tribulation starts on 9/29/2008 with the rapture on 10/29/2008 to fulfill II Thessalonians 2:3 which speaks of the day of the Lord, taken as being the Rapture happening after the man of lawlessness being revealed."
As I said, "I "came out" on 9-16-08." Notice how close the date is.
Revelation 14:13-15
"14And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle. "
True story. I actually saw God in the clouds. His head was lit up by the Sun. There was a line across His chest, that I believe to be the sickle. It was so vivid, I could see His wavy hair and it was perfect timing. I just so happened to park at a place I used to scuba dive for shellfish and looked up and there He was. It was picture perfect.
If You read the "Parable of the Sower" from the Bible, You'll realize that both Mattew and Mark tell the tale but the numbers are ordered as seen below.
Matthew has a descending sequence (100-60-30) 63. Mark presents the yield of grain in ascending order (30-60-100) 36;
The first time I ever grew Herb was at 63 Pine st. when I was in jr high school but My dad pulled the plants out of the garden. The second time I grew was at 36 Aroostook and I got a yield because it was indoors at My house. Both houses were at the top of a hill.
"4Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy: for all nations shall come and worship before thee; for thy judgments are made manifest."
And I figured out the world. Check this out - Viva la REVOLUTION!
Another funny thing is that My X fiance, her initials were going to be the same as mine if We got married. Almost as if she were My Eve. About the same time she broke up with Me I found out that I'm the Savior of the world. Ever noticed how its says "IN RI" on top of the cross? My heart was broken IN RI (in Rhode Island), where I was crucified with Christ.
Can I get a witness?
The REVOLUTION has begun!
RON PAUL REVOLUTION
~PEACE~
x15
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hmm, not to get into a rant but a few things should be cleared up from that link.
that guy should have done his homework prior to posting that on the internet, he makes a few misleading assumptions, for example: "...Everything that we know about Jesus Christ is based strictly and entirely on hearsay..."
the fact is it is firsthand eye witness testimony, the same kind we use in our judicial system which convicts or acquits people. people are in jail because of eye witness testimony. the writers of the bible said they were "eye witnesses to these things...they held in their hands, they saw with their eyes...and wrote about it"
quote from link, "...The first issue that I have with Christianity is if Jesus Christ was the son of God then why didn't he tell the people during his time that the Earth was round..."
don't know where he's getting these misconceptions but he assumes Jesus didn't teach these things. the bible recounts the origin of the cosmos, saying the earth was surrounded by a dome meaning curved rounded Genesis 1:6-8, 14-17 "let there be a dome...God made the dome...the second day" God also said the universe is a dome.
reference: New Revised Standard Version
couldn't finish reading the rest of the link.
JoeBananas
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x15
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I just did.
it is primary source material. it would hold up in court. I would win, you would lose.
ah, insults, eh?
stick to the subject, refute what I wrote or shut up
trishmybiscuits
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Anyone who knows anything about the justice system knows that eyewitness testimony can be extremely unreliable. Furthermore, hearsay is when people say that someone else said this or that. And that's exactly what the bible is. It's just people saying that Jesus said this or that. That's hearsay.
The point that the author is making about Jesus not exhibiting any knowledge about the natural world is that any ordinary human being could've went around espousing the same rhetoric that Jesus did and calling himself the son of God. Heck, we have people doing as much today. The point is if Jesus really was the son of God he would've did something to drive the point home not only to people of his time but to all those who came after him. One good way to have done that would've been to point out something about the natural world that people weren't currently aware of, something that someone who was really the son of God would've been expected to know. And Jesus clearly did not do that!
JoeBananas
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Its not an insult if its the truth.I just did.
it is primary source material. it would hold up in court. I would win, you would lose.
ah, insults, eh?
stick to the subject, refute what I wrote or shut up
Mr Sheeple willingly submitting to slavery. Not only that you are a great slave because you will fight for your master! They programed you very well but I am sure it didnt take much to get you to follow their lead now did it?
And my answer to your bible being a valid reference.
you are lying because it would not hold up in court.
I win
and you.....well you lose like always. You will never win quoteing the bible for fact.
Ya Bone-head.
x15
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hi, trishmybiscuit
if you are looking for a natural example it was that Jesus defeated death
after he was killed and 3 days after his death, he was seen by over 500 eye witnesses (some of them wrote books that are contained in the bible) at one time, many said they saw him walking around in his body the one with the scars from the nails & sword wounds and many who said they shared a meal with him.
the benefit of doubt is always given to the writers of ancient documents regardless of it's plato, socrates, abraham lincoln or the many authors of the books of the bible unless there is evidence to the contrary
it is evident by the posted link "The final debunking of Christianity" the author (DARILAC SEMARGO-BLOBI) has not read the bible otherwise he would not have written what he did
x15
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nope, I'm not programmed. I used to be an atheist but the evidence is overwhelming to the fact that Jesus did live, died and rose from the dead. i spent 2 an a half years studying this before I was convinced
the bible is used as a reference because it is accurate and reliable. it is used by the National Geographic Society, Smithsonian Institute and universities from all over the world for archeological digs and investigations
nevertheless, you can believe what you want, that's on your head not mine. i'm trying to be objective here
I'm willing to listen to you if you can site any historical, archeological, or political record (from that time period) that contradicts the biblical accounts
i'll take the high road on this one and not resort to name calling.
bless you
Stoney McFried
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The evidence is only overwhelming to those who want so badly for it to be true.
Lots of fictional books use actual locations in their stories.The Bible is no different.The fact that the Romans never mentioned Jesus at all, even though Pontius Pilate was a member of the Roman Empire, (and they were known for meticulous record keeping)is just ONE of the many things that prove historically there was no Christ.Now, before you even bring up any historians who supposedly cite that Jesus existed, please keep in mind that these guys were NOT alive at the supposed time of Christ's life, and many of these accounts were actually ADDED by the church,and are not even written by said people. So, please show historical(not biblical) references to jesus that cannot be refuted.
Lots of fictional books use actual locations in their stories.The Bible is no different.The fact that the Romans never mentioned Jesus at all, even though Pontius Pilate was a member of the Roman Empire, (and they were known for meticulous record keeping)is just ONE of the many things that prove historically there was no Christ.Now, before you even bring up any historians who supposedly cite that Jesus existed, please keep in mind that these guys were NOT alive at the supposed time of Christ's life, and many of these accounts were actually ADDED by the church,and are not even written by said people. So, please show historical(not biblical) references to jesus that cannot be refuted.
the bible is used as a reference because it is accurate and reliable. it is used by the National Geographic Society, Smithsonian Institute and universities from all over the world for archeological digs and investigations
nevertheless, you can believe what you want, that's on your head not mine. i'm trying to be objective here
I'm willing to listen to you if you can site any historical, archeological, or political record (from that time period) that contradicts the biblical accounts
x15
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the books of the bible are a historical record. so, am i to believe you do not agree with the smithsonian institute? national geographic society? because they sure do think it is accurate
are the writings of plato accurate? socrates?
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hom36rown
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Even if he did exist, he was nothing more than some guy with a messiah complex. Do you believe every part of the bible, do you think noah really gathered up two of every animal, and the world was flooded, do you believe moses parted the red sea, do you believe in giants? Its pretty obvious the bible is just a bunch of stories.
Stoney McFried
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Like I said, many fictional books use actual locations. And what do Plato and Socrates have to do with Christ?They were born way before he supposedly was, so if you're trying to say they mentioned Jesus, I believe you're quite mistaken.
the books of the bible are a historical record. so, am i to believe you do not agree with the smithsonian institute? national geographic society? because they sure do think it is accurate
are the writings of plato accurate? socrates?
x15
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1. - the eye witness accounts, historical documentation from the different institutions (which I've named already) and archeological digs, plus i studied law and i have peace officer status (don't be alarmed, i'm not a policeman but a fireman, we go through some of the same training as police, hey - you asked
) so became familiar with evidence2. - experientially, because the records seemed to be correct I still did not believe them for a long time. it wasn't until through the use of peyote and lots of lsd the spirit realm was revealed to me all too convincingly, over & over again. it was in this realm i met christ (the same guy who died and resurrected spoken of in the bible)
put the two together and he (christ) has been indelibly etched into my life experiences - i'm not the only one who has experienced this, read a few posts up
i might add, richard "rick" griffin used to airbrush surfboards in our town many moons ago and he had a conversion experience that left a lot of us thinking he had gone off the deep end until it started happening to us
btw, for the record, i'm not hearing anything new here, i thought the same way
if you're familiar with higher criticism they use some of the same arguments as some here, saying the biblical books were incorrect, it was taught in colleges, until higher criticism was disproved through archeology and stylistic studies (study of writing styles)
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