Bush Isn't Spying on al Qaeda ... He's Spying on You

Dankdude

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By Robert Parry, Consortium News. Posted August 4, 2007.

The extraordinary secrecy surrounding the spying operations revealed in Alberto Gonzales' Senate testimony is not aimed at al-Qaeda, but at the American people.​

The dispute over whether Attorney General Alberto Gonzales committed perjury when he parsed words about George W. Bush's warrantless surveillance program misses a larger point: the extraordinary secrecy surrounding these spying operations is not aimed at al-Qaeda, but at the American people.

There has never been a reasonable explanation for why a fuller discussion of these operations would help al-Qaeda, although that claim often is used by the Bush administration to challenge the patriotism of its critics or to avoid tough questions.

On July 27, for instance, White House press secretary Tony Snow fended off reporters who asked about apparent contradictions in Gonzales's testimony by saying:

"This gets us back into the situation that I understand is unsatisfactory because there are lots of questions raised and the vast majority of those we're not going to be in a position to answer, simply because they do involve matters of classification that we cannot and will not discuss publicly."

Discussion closed.

But al-Qaeda terrorists always have assumed that their electronic communications were vulnerable to interception, which is why 9/11 attackers like Mohamed Atta traveled overseas for face-to-face meetings with their handlers. They limited their phone calls to mostly routine conversations.

The terrorists also had no reason to know or to care that the U.S. government was or wasn't getting wiretap approval from the secret court created by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. They simply took for granted that their communications could be intercepted and acted accordingly.

It never made sense to think that al-Qaeda terrorists suddenly would get loose-lipped just because the FISA court was or wasn't in the mix. The FISA court rubber-stamps almost all wiretap requests from the Executive Branch for domestic spying, and overseas calls don't require a warrant.

Can anyone really imagine a conversation like "Gee, Osama, since Bush has to get FISA approval, we can now call our sleeper agents and plan the next attack."

Similarly, there's no reason to think terrorists would change their behavior significantly if they knew that the U.S. government was engaged in massive data-mining operations, poring through electronic records of citizens and non-citizens alike.

The 9/11 attackers mostly stayed off the grid and many of their transactions, such as renting housing, would not alone have raised suspicions. Indeed, the patterns that deserved more attention, such as enrollment in flight-training classes and the arrival of known al-Qaeda operatives, were detected by alert FBI agents in the field but ignored by FBI officials in Washington -- and by Bush while on a month-long vacation in Texas.

The 9/11 attacks were less a failure of intelligence than a failure of political attention by Bush's national security team.

Americans in the Dark

So what's the real explanation for all the secrecy about the overall structure of the so-called Terrorist Surveillance Program?

The chief reason, especially for the excessive secrecy around the data-mining operations, appears to be Bush's political need to prevent a full debate inside the United States about the security value of these Big Brother-type procedures when weighed against invasions of Americans' privacy.

Bush knows he could run into trouble if he doesn't keep the American people in the dark. In 2002, for instance, when the Bush administration launched a project seeking "total information awareness" on virtually everyone on earth involved in the modern economy, the disclosure was met with public alarm.

The administration cited the terrorist threat to justify the program which involved applying advanced computer technology to analyze trillions of bytes of data on electronic transactions and communications. The goal was to study the electronic footprints left by every person in the developed world during the course of their everyday lives -- from the innocuous to the embarrassing to the potentially significant.

The government could cross-check books borrowed from a library, fertilizer bought at a farm-supply outlet, X-rated movies rented at a video store, prescriptions filled at a pharmacy, sites visited on the Internet, tickets reserved for a plane, borders crossed while traveling, rooms rented at a motel, and countless other examples.

Bush's aides argued that their access to this electronic data might help detect terrorists, but the data could prove even more useful in building dossiers on anti-war activists or blackmailing political opponents. A targeted individual would have almost no privacy in the face of an all-knowing government.

Despite the administration's assurance that political abuses wouldn't happen, the capability would be a huge temptation for political strategists like Karl Rove who have made clear that they view anyone not supporting Bush's war on terror as a terrorist ally.

In 2002, the technological blueprint for this Orwellian-style project was on the drawing board at the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, the Pentagon's top research and development arm. DARPA commissioned a comprehensive plan for this electronic spying -- and did so publicly.

"Transactional data" was to be gleaned from electronic data on every kind of activity -- "financial, education, travel, medical, veterinary, country entry, place/event entry, transportation, housing, critical resources, government, communications," according to the Web site for DARPA's Information Awareness Office.

The program would then cross-reference this data with the "biometric signatures of humans," data collected on individuals' faces, fingerprints, gaits and irises. With this knowledge at its fingertips, the government would have what it called "total information awareness" about pretty much everyone.
 

Dankdude

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Masonic Eye

The Information Awareness Office even boasted a logo that looked like some kind of clip art from George Orwell's 1984. The logo showed the Masonic symbol of an all-seeing eye atop a pyramid peering over the globe, with the slogan, "scientia est potentia," Latin for "knowledge is power."

Though apparently unintentional, DARPA's choice of a giant white pyramid eerily recalled Orwell's Ministry of Truth, "an enormous pyramidal structure of glittering white concrete, soaring up, terrace after terrace, 300 metres into the air." The all-seeing Masonic eye could be read as "Big Brother Is Watching."

Former Vice President Al Gore and some civil libertarians noted these strange similarities both in style and substance to Orwell's totalitarian world.

"We have always held out the shibboleth of Big Brother as a nightmare vision of the future that we're going to avoid at all costs," Gore said. "They have now taken the most fateful step in the direction of that Big Brother nightmare that any president has ever allowed to occur."

Besides the parallels to 1984, the administration's assurances about respecting constitutional boundaries were undercut by its provocative choice of director for the Information Awareness Office. The project was headed by President Reagan's former national security adviser John Poindexter, who was caught flouting constitutional safeguards and federal laws in the Iran-Contra scandal of the mid-1980s.

Poindexter was the White House official who approved the transfer of profits from the sale of missiles to Iran's Islamic fundamentalist government to Nicaraguan contra rebels for the purchase of weapons, thus circumventing the Constitution's grant of war-making power to Congress. Under U.S. law at the time, military aid was banned to both Iran and the contras.

In 1990, Poindexter was convicted of five felonies in connection with the Iran-Contra scheme and the cover-up. But his case was overturned by a conservative-dominated three-judge appeals court panel, which voted 2-1 that the conviction was tainted by congressional immunity given to Poindexter to compel his testimony to Congress in 1987.

Though Poindexter's Iran-Contra excesses in the 1980s might have been viewed by some as disqualifying for a sensitive job overseeing the collection of information about nearly everyone on earth, DARPA said it sought out such committed characters to run its projects.

"The best DARPA program managers have always been freewheeling zealots in pursuit of their goals," the agency's Web site said. [For more details on this and other Bush administration authoritarian-style projects, see our new book, Neck Deep: The Disastrous Presidency of George W. Bush.]

'Scrapped' Program

When the "total information awareness" project was disclosed, public outrage forced the Bush administration into retreat, ousting Poindexter and supposedly scrapping the massive data-mining program.

What is now apparent, however, is that the Bush administration simply took many of these data-mining features and put them under the rubric of what's known generally as the Terrorist Surveillance Program, or as administration insiders call it, "the TSP."

The data-mining component of the operation is considered so sensitive that in December 2005 when Bush acknowledged the TSP's warrantless wiretapping, he continued his silence about the data-mining aspect.

That distinction is at the heart of the dispute about Gonzales's testimony. The Attorney General told the Senate Judiciary Committee that there was no significant internal disagreement about the legality of the surveillance program undertaken by the National Security Agency, which is responsible for high-tech electronic spying.

However, senior senators -- after noting that former Deputy Attorney General James Comey and FBI Director Robert Mueller recounted high-level threats to resign over the project's legality -- raised questions about whether Gonzales had committed perjury.

In a letter to senior members of the Judiciary Committee on Aug. 1, Gonzales acknowledged that he had parsed his words narrowly.

"I recognize that the use of the term Terrorist Surveillance Program and my shorthand reference to the 'program' publicly 'described by the president' may have created confusion, particularly for those who are knowledgeable about the N.S.A. activities authorized by the presidential order," the Attorney General wrote.

A day earlier, Director of National Intelligence Mike McConnell made a similar point in a letter to Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pennsylvania. McConnell wrote that after the 9/11 attacks, Bush signed a single executive order which authorized "a number of … intelligence activities."

Defending Gonzales's from perjury accusations, McConnell revealed that, in administration jargon, the Terrorist Surveillance Program is only "one particular aspect of these activities, and nothing more." [Washington Post, Aug. 1, 2007]

Real Reasons

Yet, whether Gonzales's legalistic parsing crossed the line into perjury or not, the larger question is why the Congress and the American people have been kept so ignorant of these programs that the administration feels it can get away with playing word games.

Since al-Qaeda already assumes it's under tight scrutiny -- and since technical secrets of the surveillance program could still be legitimately classified -- there appears to be no compelling operational reason for blocking a more informed public debate that would weigh the proper balance between liberty and security in a democratic society.

Yet, because of the secrecy that Bush has pulled down around these operations, neither Congress nor the people can evaluate whether the trade-offs of liberty for security are worth it. Leading senators can't even make an informed judgment about whether Gonzales lied to them.

But that, of course, might be exactly the point. The real purpose of all the secrecy appears to be to enable the Bush administration to construct an authoritarian framework -- similar to the "total information awareness" concept -- without the American people knowing that their liberties are facing a draconian threat from intrusive government spying.
 

Dankdude

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(08-05) 04:00 PDT Washington -- Under pressure from President Bush, the House on Saturday gave final approval to changes in a terrorist surveillance program despite serious objections from many Democrats about the scope of the executive branch's new eavesdropping power.

Racing to complete a final rush of legislation before a scheduled monthlong break, the House voted 227-183 to endorse a measure the Bush administration said was needed to keep pace with communications technology in the effort to track terrorists overseas.

The House Democratic leadership had severe reservations about the proposal and an overwhelming majority of Democrats opposed it. Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-San Francisco, said the measure "does violence to the Constitution of the United States."

But with the Senate already in recess, Democrats confronted the choice of allowing the administration's bill to reach the floor and be approved mainly by Republicans or letting it die.

If it stalled, that would have left Democratic lawmakers, who have long been anxious about appearing weak on national security issues, facing an August fending off charges from Bush and Republicans that they left Americans exposed to terror threats.

Despite the political risks, many Democrats argued they should stand firm against the president's initiative, saying it granted the administration far too much latitude to initiate surveillance without judicial review. They said the White House was using the specter of terror to usurp the privacy rights of Americans and empower Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, an official Democrats said had proved himself untrustworthy. Under the bill, Gonzales would share authority with Mike McConnell, the director of national intelligence.

"Legislation should not be passed in response to fear-mongering," said Rep. Rush Holt, a Democrat from New Jersey.

There was no indication that lawmakers were responding to new intelligence warnings. Rather, Democrats were responding to administration pleas that a recent secret court ruling had created a legal obstacle in monitoring foreign communications relayed over the Internet.

But the disputes were significant enough that they were likely to resurface before the end of the year. Democrats have expressed concerns that the administration is reaching for powers that go well beyond solving what officials have depicted as narrow technical issues in the current law.

Bush on Saturday urged the House to act promptly after the Senate approved changes Friday night in the terrorist surveillance program sought by the administration.

Other Republicans called for swift House action as well. "I can't imagine they would take a monthlong vacation without fulfilling their obligation to keep America safe," said Sen. Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the Republican leader.

Administration officials have been quietly pushing Congress to pass a broad "modernization" of the existing law, arguing that technological changes - especially the expansion of telephone calls over the Internet - had made the current rules outdated.

One key issue, apparently raised in secret by judges overseeing the problem, is that many calls and e-mail messages between people outside the United States are routed over data networks that run through the United States. In principle, the surveillance law does not restrict eavesdropping on foreign-to-foreign communications. But in practice, administration officials contend, the path of those calls through this country means the government cannot monitor them without a warrant.

Democratic lawmakers have been deeply suspicious that the administration was seeking a broader and more controversial expansion of surveillance authority by making changes that were vague on important issues. Rep. Silvestre Reyes, D-Texas, and chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, said Friday that the administration-supported bill would allow wiretapping without warrants as long as it was "concerning a person abroad." As a result, he said, the law could be construed as allowing any search inside the United States as long as the government claimed it "concerned" al Qaeda.


Poster's Note

We are fucked now.
 

medicineman

New Member
Welcome to Amerika, the new fascist state. If my investments come together in the next couple of years, I'm moving to a Neutral country. Spain sounds like an allright place, liberal pot laws and spanish is easy to learn, and the weather is fine. I had a long conversation with an older spanish gentleman, and he wanted to know how we could accept this government we now have. I informed him that I couldn't and he said come to Spain, you'll find the government much more liberal and concerned with the welfare of their people. I just might take him up on that.
 

CannaBoss

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Welcome to Amerika, the new fascist state. If my investments come together in the next couple of years, I'm moving to a Neutral country. Spain sounds like an allright place, liberal pot laws and spanish is easy to learn, and the weather is fine. I had a long conversation with an older spanish gentleman, and he wanted to know how we could accept this government we now have. I informed him that I couldn't and he said come to Spain, you'll find the government much more liberal and concerned with the welfare of their people. I just might take him up on that.
I hear Ibiza is the place for the cannabis culture.
 

CannaBoss

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This sounds like shades of Hitler to me.
The National Socialist Republic of the Americas? Fuck I hope not, but it looks like we will be goose stepping anyday now.
 

Smirgen

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I knew it, I always heard this intermittent click on the line when I ordered double cheese pizzas from sabouls pizza.

Luckily for me since bush is an idiot he'll never understand what I'm talking about when I'm ordering 4 "green"wall tires from my dealers.:mrgreen:
 

CannaBoss

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It's all about CODE...
We talk golf, ie. "my friend likes to golf but he's missing his "3 iron" do you have one in your bag?"

How is this administration still in Power? It seems that every member in the cabinet is being charged or accused of something.
 

medicineman

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It's all about CODE...
We talk golf, ie. "my friend likes to golf but he's missing his "3 iron" do you have one in your bag?"

How is this administration still in Power? It seems that every member in the cabinet is being charged or accused of something.
The gutless democrats won't impeach them.. Nancy Pelosi is a sell out to ther Bush regime, "Impeachment is off the table", well, we damn well better put it back on the table if we want to preserve any modicum of Democracy.
1. End the war-Pull out troops ASAP
2. Impeach Bush-Cheney
3. End lobbiests
4. Demand paper trails for voting machines
5. End electoral college
6. Enact universal health care-(Not for profit)
The list is endless, but this a start. A politician with this as a platform would get my vote
 

CannaBoss

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The gutless democrats won't impeach them.. Nancy Pelosi is a sell out to ther Bush regime, "Impeachment is off the table", well, we damn well better put it back on the table if we want to preserve any modicum of Democracy.
1. End the war-Pull out troops ASAP
2. Impeach Bush-Cheney
3. End lobbiests
4. Demand paper trails for voting machines
5. End electoral college
6. Enact universal health care-(Not for profit)
The list is endless, but this a start. A politician with this as a platform would get my vote
Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinichs' love child for President.
 

Wavels

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What are you guys gonna do when, and if, a Dem takes over as POTUS?
In all likelihood, this surveillance program will be maintained; it is simple common sense...whether you recognize reality or not, there are jihadists out there that need to be rooted out....the governments primary responsibility is to protect its citizens from sudden violent deaths.
Bush Derangement Syndrome strikes again...IMHO!
:joint:
 

Wavels

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Perfect!
You guys perceive NO threat?
What could be sweeter for our aspiring murderers?
Yikes!
Unfortunately you guys are dreadfully mistaken...
And we may all suffer the horrific consequences of such misguided thinking!
 

Dankdude

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Yeah the Nazis used the same scare tactic in beginning days of WWII... Funny how the public bought it lock, stock and barrel then too.

Persprective:

"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger."
-- Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials
 

Dankdude

Well-Known Member
Lyrics:
The Reichstag Fire
By David Rovic

The planes hit New York City
And thousands now are dead
"It was Arab terrorists"
This is what you said
Well if that is the truth
Then what have you got to hide
And what were you doing
On the day all those people died
Where the fuck were the fighter jets
Ordered by the FAA
And what is your explanation
For what you were heard to say
When you told the Air Force to stand down
Not to intercept
Did you plan to let it happen
Or are you just inept

(Chorus)
I am left to wonder
As the flames are reaching higher
Was this our latest Lusitannia
Or another Reichstag Fire

There's some distressing information, sir
Which I think should be explained
Just which things have been lost
And just what has been gained
Like the thousands of put options
Bought days before the crash
If the money were collected
It would make quite a pretty stash
And the only stocks they bought
Were American and United
Deutsche Bank knows the answer
But the names have not been sighted
And is it just coincidence
That this firm in the private sector
Was once run by "Buzzy" Krongard
Ex-CIA Director

(Chorus)

There's something fishy in Virginia
And I want an explanation
Why did they get the contract
What is Britannia Aviation
A one-man operation
Corporation with no history
He said he worked in Florida
But there he was a mystery
So is there a connection
I think it bears investigation
When the FAA found boxcutters
Does this cause you consternation
Hidden behind the seats
In these Delta planes
That had been fixed in Lynchburg
With Brittania at the reigns

(Chorus)

You said Bin Laden was your friend
But he isn't anymore
Now that he's not fighting Russia
In your proxy war
Who called the FBI
Off the Bin Laden family trail
When so many times you had the chance
To re-write this sordid tale
Sudan in '96
The Taleban in 2001
Offered to turn him over
And right then you coulda won
But perhaps it is the case
That you're avoiding victory
That to justify your exploits
You must have an enemy

(Chorus)

If you were not hiding from the truth
Then you'd have a truth commission
And not some masquerade
Kangaroo investigation
Hiring Henry Kissinger
The ancient master of deceit
To make sure all stones are left unturned
And the ruse is kept complete
And now you carry out your plans
Which you have had for decades
Conquering the world
With your troops and bombing raids
I see an evil regime
Led by an evil man
On Pennsylvania Avenue
Where this evil war began

(Chorus)

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