Hayduke's Seldom Seen Garden

Hayduke

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***Veg Box Update, Last Post on Previous Page***

The flower box continues to be a perpetual harvest with 6 plants. 1-2 are added from veg every 14-21 days as room is made available. The footprint of the light has been extended by putting 2 plants out side the box, but still in plenty of light from the four hunny. I use this for new girls to get them used to the new light and for older girls that seem to not like or need as much light...the angle simulating steeper angle of sun in late Autumn?

Anyhow... the pics, including Headband Zombie II (re-veg) cut last week, dry and fresh in the jar for cure.

Row 1:

4 of a Headband clone @ 36 days flower, and a K-Train clone of the same age.

Row 2:

Two more of the 36 day KT, followed by 2 pics of the Red Diesel @ 69 days...maybe a 4:20 harvest? The last pic in row 2 is another Head band clone @ 7 days. She is the sister of the first 4 pics. Originally she was going to be sh!t canned, but then tied her down to see if she could still be trained to fit the vertically challenged Seldom Seen Garden...as seen from the nice early LST from the veg update (I am proud of her)...these bitches like to be tied down. So I did not have anything else ready and tossed her in...she has switched (back) to 1/2 strength FF chart nutes with Big bloom, Tiger Bloom and Open Sesame along with the Liquid Karma and Cal-Mag Plus that I mix with the free tea from the local shop as the "base" (veg, bloom, added per gallon, sometimes molasses or SPT) for a total of ~900ppm. I am running out of Botanicare that was given me, and I have the Fox Farm...

Row 3:

The third and last of the Headband Zombies that was Bonzai'd with hemp twine before flower. She is 48 days in flower. Her foliage looks a little rough being she is a Zombie who flowered the first time last August, re vegged and survived the plague of the marauding band of thrips of '09. She did not appreciate the fog of pytrethrin almost as much as those leaf sucking little bastards, but her flowers are still pretty and should yield pretty good. I guess she starts flush this week.

Then a pic of the flower box and 3 of the Headband Zombie II cut last week, 46.6g dry...a little closer...and in the jar for cure.

Thanks for playing along.

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Hayduke

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If you're speaking of the second pic, the two things on the stem that are facing us,I think they're called stipules.....
Thanks baby...I like the diagram...but there are 4 things:shock:....look closer....closer....

But I have seen things before...@ one time I thought both my ex-wives were beautiful...whew matrixed that shit!

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Stoney McFried

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Yeah, I saw the other things, but it's hard to tell.Maybe get a magnifying glass....I was reading in the growfaq that some plants show sex before flowering, or preflowers.Let's keep our fingers crossed!
Thanks baby...I like the diagram...but there are 4 things:shock:....look closer....closer....

But I have seen things before...@ one time I thought both my ex-wives were beautiful...whew matrixed that shit!

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Hayduke

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Hayduke probably already knows this, this ain't his first rodeo, lol.
Well I would't say I'm ready for any brokeback mountain shit but...Yeah I got the stipules...double click the pic so it comes up in it's own window like last year, and then click on that pic again to see full size. The dude that was helping me before and showed me his garden said he can tell in veg at about this time, but I don't know if it is as blatant...most do not have clear pistils out of the pre-flower but a couple do today.

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Hayduke

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Yeah, I saw the other things, but it's hard to tell.Maybe get a magnifying glass....I was reading in the growfaq that some plants show sex before flowering, or preflowers.Let's keep our fingers crossed!
I have a 4x glass and it looks pretty clear..the 60x is just too hard to kind cuz everything is backwards and upside down...I was about to force them to show me their thingies...

I think Ak-47 has a low-rider auto flower, and I do not know if or how the 48 is related. Maybe it has the ruderalis gene...time to do a little research.

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Stoney McFried

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Yeah, I still can't tell for sure,and I have a magnifying mouse.But the males kinda look like a little cat's paw when they preflower, and I'm not seeing that.
Well I would't say I'm ready for any brokeback mountain shit but...Yeah I got the stipules...double click the pic so it comes up in it's own window like last year, and then click on that pic again to see full size. The dude that was helping me before and showed me his garden said he can tell in veg at about this time, but I don't know if it is as blatant...most do not have clear pistils out of the pre-flower but a couple do today.

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When in doubt...google!
I have a 4x glass and it looks pretty clear..the 60x is just too hard to kind cuz everything is backwards and upside down...I was about to force them to show me their thingies...

I think Ak-47 has a low-rider auto flower, and I do not know if or how the 48 is related. Maybe it has the ruderalis gene...time to do a little research.

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Hayduke

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Yeah, I still can't tell for sure,and I have a magnifying mouse.But the males kinda look like a little cat's paw when they preflower, and I'm not seeing that.

When in doubt...google!
Well I read one report of a guy who sexed by "pre-flowers in veg" but nothing on genetics.

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Hayduke

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Here are some shots from today. I actually took some of them through my magnifying glass with the optical zoom on macro...then a little digi zoom.

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cowboylogic

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Pic 7 may be male... but it's hard to tell on the rest.And I'm not too sure about seven.
Nice shots Hayduke, but you know momma nature is a fickle bitch, and being patient is a virtue. Right? chuckle. Thanks for the info. I am lazy, but will read through your journal.. That said, what genie are you sexy?
 

Hayduke

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Nice shots Hayduke, but you know momma nature is a fickle bitch, and being patient is a virtue. Right? chuckle. Thanks for the info. I am lazy, but will read through your journal.. That said, what genie are you sexy?
Don't waste your time reading anything before about page 10.:-?

Those two girls are Ak-48.

I posted new pics of the whole garden tonight they are the last post of page 37 for the veg box and the first on p 38 for flower box and Headband harvest pics.

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Hayduke

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Meh, you've got time, don't sweat it till you're sure.
Nice shots Hayduke, but you know momma nature is a fickle bitch, and being patient is a virtue. Right? chuckle. Thanks for the info. I am lazy, but will read through your journal.. That said, what genie are you sexy?
I'm in no hurry and I have 3 other little ones...barring different phenos, I only need one. I just thought it was interesting that these little girls seem to be showing sex with only 6 hours of darkness...it's like they have been drinking rBST milk and grew titties in the 4th grade.

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Hash Lover

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The three different plants I starter last fall all showed sex in 18/6. Started 5 free ones, 3 popped and all were female. The one I ordered, started 5, 2 popped. One died first week (weak seed). The other didn't show until I took clones for flower and ended up male.
 

Hayduke

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The three different plants I starter last fall all showed sex in 18/6. Started 5 free ones, 3 popped and all were female. The one I ordered, started 5, 2 popped. One died first week (weak seed). The other didn't show until I took clones for flower and ended up male.
In the past I have forced them to show...mainly for that reason, not cloning males. I know that they will show eventually with maturity, but it was cool that these showed so young. Once they are forced they start alternating growth where each node has one shoot instead of two. These are girls for sure and still showing the juvenile growth! All my clones that were forced or from reveg, alternate from node #1...I think the cuts I took will keep the 2 shoots per node till flowered!!!

I had 3 other Ak-48 seeds I started a week or 2 behind these, they were really stretchy and were probably males so they got the ax.

Cut the last red diesel last week, they are out of the rotation. The last zombie headband is cut this weekend followed in 2 weeks by another headband and k-train. A nice LST'd Headband was put to flower tonight. The 2 little Ak's were repotted into their 6 liter pots where they will finish and got a little lower trim for clones and ventilation. They are vigorous little bushes...I am really happy with how they grow and hope for good smoke. they seem like they will be a fairly good yielding strain.

A non-toxic assualt has been made on the fungus gnats and thrips larvae.

Spinosad (a bacteria based organic pesticide) seems to be effective for the thrips larvae that made it to leaves and at least pisses off flying thrips and gnats, killing most.

For the root zone: 1T/ gal Dr. Bronner's Hemp Peppermint Castile soap. I did not check the pH and it is pretty high. I used adjusted water and it was still over 7 when I checked after the fact. One HB 6.5 weeks into flower that was already showing some brown spotting, got worse, and one of the little 48's has 2 leaves with some spotting, but so far, not bad out of a dozen or so. The pyrethrin did mild universal damage and made me paranoid for my own health.

Powdery mildew showed up in the garden on some LA conf. and Skunk Kush clones that I trashed a couple of months ago(should have treated:evil:) and has popped up again with a mild affinity for the K-Train...I can't really blame it... I tried the pH 8 water spray and it knocks it down for a day or two. I was going to try H2O2, as it oxidizes the fungus...killing it and leaving only H2O. I was too lazy to go buy the peroxide and read about the "Cornell Formula" deveoped to treat fungus without fungicide or sulfur residue. It was originally 1T Horticultural or light vegetable oil, 1T soap (emulsifier), 1T baking soda in 1 Gal water. Shake continuously and apply to top and bottom of leaves. Newer Hort oils contain the emulsifier and no soap is needed, though the Dr. bronner's peppermint oil and rosemary extract are added bug killer/reppelers. The hort oil kills the fungus and bugs.

Well I have hort oil (parrafinic oil + emulsifier) and have used it on large house trees, but I believe it is petroleum based...even though it is for use up to day of harvest...I am reluctant to spray on plants in late flower. I was trying to make a decision and was considering a light veg oil, when I remembered...I have hemp seed oil! I used the equivilant to 1T ea/gal water of Hemp oil, Dr bronner's, and baking soda. The oil stays fairly emulsified if the soap is first mixed with the oil and then added to water....Fungus gone for last couple of days at least!

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