Grow, mazar-i-sharif and bagseed, more to come... 12/12 from seed

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AutumnsRedTears

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1/4 perlite 3/4 soil mixture
Mix of 27K and 65K lights
12/12 from seed:

Approx. Day 16



The bad thing is i have trouble controlling the temperature and i can't do much to fix it, don't tell me to buy a A/C unit because nothing like that is possible. Temps range from 75 to 90.

the plant in the can is extremely week for some reason, i don't expect it to make it much, but keeping it just for the hell of it.

I've had alot of set backs that hurt the plants for the first 5 or so days of their lives... i think it would be going better had it started better, but we'll see what happens. Be back in a few days to update.
 
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AutumnsRedTears

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UPDATE:
DAY 20:
Out of the six plants:
- 2 of them have grown fast, about twice their size in 5 days.
---One of those two is a male, but it looks like it's a good plant so it may be used for seed production.
- pulled up The short one that had a messed up stem because it has been getting worse everyday day.
- The one that is about 5 or 6 days younger than the rest in the can has grown triple it's size

So now - 5 plants, one male, the others unknown, and 2 plants are beating the others by 2 to 4 inches

Sorry, no pictures yet
 
SquirrelGod

SquirrelGod

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CUT THE MALES!! lol, I think your problem lies with small pots, hard for plants to gow in small pots. I would try and get real 1-5 gallon pots to put them in, besides that you should start feeding them! they need lots of food to auto-flower. I would give them bone meal (5$ at Walllmart MG organic brand), to help them flower organicly. Also If you are going 12/12 from seed dont mix spectrums 65K is for veg 27K is for flower. So take away the 65K's and replace them with more 27K's if you want them to bud. Best of luck...
 
farmer2424

farmer2424

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woulda never started 12/12, 18/6 for veg, 12/12 for flower, not tryin to be mean i did the same thing two months ago, and now just doing the latter with amazing results. good luck man?
 
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AutumnsRedTears

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well i've tried and failed two 12/12 from seed grows BUT they were both awesome except the first was just one plant = male, tossed it, and the second made stupid mistake of not hanging lights sturdy = fell on all over the plants for hours.
if you think 12/12 from seed is bad check out randy rocket's stuff, and not to sound like a dick but if i wanted to 18/6 veg first then i would be.... which when i get more money i'll probably do both types of grows to see which is best for me...
and yeah, using 27k and 65k lights is a dual spectrum which is good for 12/12 from seed....

please only give me information from your own experiences and not what you've read....

thanks all for checking out the thread... updates with pic's soon if short term memory loss allows...
 
Gr8Gr33nz

Gr8Gr33nz

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use straight 24 for cfl for at least 3 weeks before going into flowering. 65k spectrum do not introduce 27k until plants has some stability

18/6 is ok but straight 24 is much more rapid growth and proven not to stress plants due to many peoples misconceptions but you can always go into 18/6 a week before 12/12 to ease into the light change as i do.

buy bigger cfl they make single 250 actual watts now little one are better for side lighting it is lot less clutter and bigger cfl`s are 65$ on ebay i bought a few they work great.


just my 2cents
 
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AutumnsRedTears

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I remember why i didn't come to this site for a few weeks.... everyone thinks they are right, and that you need to use their set up and system of growing...

i mean, i'm obviously doing 12/12 from seed because i've done my homework on it... you go do your 24/0 18/6 whatever veg ways, and i'll keep doing my thing...

If you're not going to give me suggestions and pointers for my grow, which is a 12/12 grow, then give me none at all...

This may sound harsh but you're wasting your time and my time telling me otherwise...

And 23 watt CFL's work fine when you know how to hang them 2 inches away from the plant

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the Five plants are like 24 days in, and 2 (probably more) already show sex, and 2 are growing very rapidly while the others are certainly starting to speed up, i think i'm doing okay...
 
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AutumnsRedTears

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frmrboi said:
this is nonsense, kindly disregard.
I wouldn't have gone 12/12 from seed though, MIS is a naturally short stocky plant. I've grown it myself.
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Hmm... oops... haha... i'll see how it turns out, there are more MIS seeds...

well, how was the bud from it? got any pics?

And yeah i'd get more bud if i didn't go 12/12... but with some TLC it's possible to get a decent amount for the time spent...
 
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AutumnsRedTears

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...haha... okay tough guy... i wanted opinion as to how the grow is doing,

you people come in here and tell me to completely restructure the way i am growing.... not cool.... doing 12/12 for a reason....

by the way, this is what the post originally says,
"This thread is located at:
https://www.rollitup.org/cfl-growing/190963-grow-mazar-i-sharif-bagseed-new-post.html

Here is the message that has just been posted:
***************
you need structure from vegetative but you do your thing i`m just giving suggestions if i wanted attitude i`d come to your house and ask for it.

or maybe you`d like to come to mine?


so be polite as it is my opinion i`ve grown with cfl`s before they were even made publicly available many years ago.


You act as if i was giving you some harsh criticism and you don`t even have any pics displaying here.

its people like you that make forums unpleasant





your lights are fine but a bigger bulb will penetrate the canopy more don`t think because my low post count i know squat bud.

when i start my grow journal with my 2-250 watt cfl and 8-26 watt you`ll see why i know best.
***************"

FROM YOU!

With that said i'll keep the results to myself, only come here every so often for help when needed and to help others if and when i have answers. It's people like YOU that make me not want to come back.

I'm sure you'll get good results with your cfl's but who the fuck are you to say i won't get good results with mine, i've used them before, the only reason i may not get good results this time is because i'm pushing my luck with how many plants i'm trying to do and because my timer fucked up for the first 5 days.

whatever "bud", OUT!
 
Gr8Gr33nz

Gr8Gr33nz

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AutumnsRedTears said:
...haha... okay tough guy... i wanted opinion as to how the grow is doing,

you people come in here and tell me to completely restructure the way i am growing.... not cool.... doing 12/12 for a reason....

by the way, this is what the post originally says,
"This thread is located at:
https://www.rollitup.org/cfl-growing/190963-grow-mazar-i-sharif-bagseed-new-post.html

Here is the message that has just been posted:
***************
you need structure from vegetative but you do your thing i`m just giving suggestions if i wanted attitude i`d come to your house and ask for it.

or maybe you`d like to come to mine?


so be polite as it is my opinion i`ve grown with cfl`s before they were even made publicly available many years ago.


You act as if i was giving you some harsh criticism and you don`t even have any pics displaying here.

its people like you that make forums unpleasant





your lights are fine but a bigger bulb will penetrate the canopy more don`t think because my low post count i know squat bud.

when i start my grow journal with my 2-250 watt cfl and 8-26 watt you`ll see why i know best.
***************"

FROM YOU!

With that said i'll keep the results to myself, only come here every so often for help when needed and to help others if and when i have answers. It's people like YOU that make me not want to come back.

I'm sure you'll get good results with your cfl's but who the fuck are you to say i won't get good results with mine, i've used them before, the only reason i may not get good results this time is because i'm pushing my luck with how many plants i'm trying to do and because my timer fucked up for the first 5 days.

whatever "bud", OUT!
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as you can see i`m the bigger man as i refrained from getting at your level of criticism and changed my post quickly almost instantly but obviously you were on stand by just waiting for a confrontation to fire off on.

your attitude speaks for itself:peace:
 
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AutumnsRedTears

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I didn't intend to have any attitude at all in my first couple post's i was trying to tell you (and others) that i wasn't looking for people to tell me to change my whole system of growing, rather to tell me simple things like "hey move your lights" or "you need nutrients" or "you need to see why your plants are droopy". I wasn't asking you to tell me how to grow.
Whether or not you changed your post, saying "come to my house" with obvious unstated intentions of a physical confrontation, completely 100% unnecessary, as is all of this childish bickering, what are we? Middle schoolers on myspace?

With all this said, i think i'll stop this grow journal. Sorry if you took offense to my post but it's the truth... hope to see your grow whenever it may come... i'll be back around harvest time unless plants problems arise before.

And seriously, check out RandyRocket = good 12/12 from seed grows, i think you will change your mind.
 
NoSaint

NoSaint

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Autumn they don't look to bad. What size are those pots? I did mine in 1 liter, 32oz plastic paint buckets.

M-i-s is a slow growing plant. One pheno is supposed to be real slow.

My experience with the 12.12 from seed has taught me this, The plants will initially stay short, look like they are not doing much, then get a little bigger and then suddenly take off and shoot right up to a good height. Almost always they act like this. Almost over night they will triple in size. Stick with it, not looking too bad. If i can i will get some pics of my current 12.12 from seed and show you.

Don't listen to haters, just keep doing what your doing


check this link out..helppful with mis grow

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=99633
 
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AutumnsRedTears

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Saint how's it going... i think i remember you, i kinda faded away for a bit cause i got into some trouble (not druq related) and paranoia set in but then i came back to my senses.... Any ways thanks man... i wish i could spend more time on this grow... i'm so busy with lawyer and legal b/s and trying to get college to realize i'm not guilty so i can return to class....

After all is said and done, It seems that only two females are left :( and the pots are just the extra large cups from taco bell.... think randyrocket used to use plastic cups even smaller so should be okay...

Wanted to start more but bonnaroo is in 3 weeks and won't be here for 6 days so don't want to leave a bunch of babies here alone

Thanks for the link!
 
NoSaint

NoSaint

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AutumnsRedTears said:
Saint how's it going... i think i remember you, i kinda faded away for a bit cause i got into some trouble (not druq related) and paranoia set in but then i came back to my senses.... Any ways thanks man... i wish i could spend more time on this grow... i'm so busy with lawyer and legal b/s and trying to get college to realize i'm not guilty so i can return to class....

After all is said and done, It seems that only two females are left :( and the pots are just the extra large cups from taco bell.... think randyrocket used to use plastic cups even smaller so should be okay...

Wanted to start more but bonnaroo is in 3 weeks and won't be here for 6 days so don't want to leave a bunch of babies here alone

Thanks for the link!
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You should remember me....I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be growing those right now if it werent for me
 
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AutumnsRedTears

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NoSaint said:
You should remember me....I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be growing those right now if it werent for me
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Fuck right! I thought it was you... didn't want to say something and then it not be you and then i'd just look like a dumbass. kiss-ass

Plants still going very well... i keep forgetting damn pictures! Lol... for real though man, thanks a ton!
 
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madazz

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NoSaint said:
Autumn they don't look to bad. What size are those pots? I did mine in 1 liter, 32oz plastic paint buckets.

M-i-s is a slow growing plant. One pheno is supposed to be real slow.

My experience with the 12.12 from seed has taught me this, The plants will initially stay short, look like they are not doing much, then get a little bigger and then suddenly take off and shoot right up to a good height. Almost always they act like this. Almost over night they will triple in size. Stick with it, not looking too bad. If i can i will get some pics of my current 12.12 from seed and show you.

Don't listen to haters, just keep doing what your doing


check this link out..helppful with mis grow

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=99633
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Man it is unbelievable how slow it grows!, just pulled mine. only had 1 from the 5 freebies i got. but WOW what can i say, it was worth it. mmmmmmm looks and smells so good. 3 weeks longer than the rest of my garden. full 12 week flowering. Woth it!!!!!!

 
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madazz

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Finished M-i-S was the shortest plant just over 1.5 feet. the buds sound like rocks when dropped on bench, they are the hardest rock buds i've ever had.!!!

grew real real slow, never really took off. i nearlly pulled it out - thank god i didn't!!!!

more pics last page of my journal.link in sig
 
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