Organic Montana Medical Grow
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tahoe58
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first class set up there sir. It is very obvius that you went through a lot of planning and efort to get to where you are. I am going to save you construction photos for the time when I am prepared to have a room instead of a box....like someone else said. Sry to hear bout ur dad. And taking care of ur mom, good on ya! I look forward to watching this grow. Thanks for all your efforts to keep us updated. Walk on!
MyGTO2007
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DUDE!!!! Nice avitar.....
and yes alot of planning and effort
thanks for my Dad, and its my only mom so i have to do it !!!
dankmango
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excited, I like 18/6 so equipment gets a break, plus a break on bills. I also believe in circadian rhythm playing a part,and nights being important. but its all up to you, just more than 12 hours till you wanna flower. lookin good bro
keep them pretty far away from a HID so they dont get sun bleached or anything, and dont burn them with nutes.
keep them pretty far away from a HID so they dont get sun bleached or anything, and dont burn them with nutes.
MyGTO2007
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yeah cool ,i put them in another place with couple hundred watts of fluro's till i get my room dialed in..
well fuck ,checked my room ,lights just went off and temps were 90, but thats without my fans on my lights hooked up.my 4x4x4 Y should be here tomorrow. then i will check it again.....
If not i will buy another S&P 150 and put it inline with my other 150 and suck some shit out, or maybe it needs more cold intake, cause my garage stays cool even when its hot outside, i dont know i hope it dont take forever to dial this shit in, cause i get frustrated easy when shit dont go as planed
well fuck ,checked my room ,lights just went off and temps were 90, but thats without my fans on my lights hooked up.my 4x4x4 Y should be here tomorrow. then i will check it again.....
If not i will buy another S&P 150 and put it inline with my other 150 and suck some shit out, or maybe it needs more cold intake, cause my garage stays cool even when its hot outside, i dont know i hope it dont take forever to dial this shit in, cause i get frustrated easy when shit dont go as planed
jigfresh
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One little thing, don't know if it would help much (as garages stay pretty cool), but I think I remember your intake being a few feet up. I know construction is finished, but the lower the intake the lower the airtemps it collects.
Not like that is going to fix it all, but it might help a degree or two.
Not like that is going to fix it all, but it might help a degree or two.
MyGTO2007
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yeah thought about that allready dude
so i put a therm up their, its 66
and my light cycle starts at 9pm and went till 3pm the next day, so that will be the coolest parts of the On cycle,plus here in this part of MT it says cool at night, So im thinking that im needing more intake
Cause last night i was doing some checking with exhaust and the intake
seems like the exhaust is doing its job, with it on and the intake off, you can feel the exhaust pull air threw the intake port.and with the fan on it's not really that much difference
so i put a therm up their, its 66
and my light cycle starts at 9pm and went till 3pm the next day, so that will be the coolest parts of the On cycle,plus here in this part of MT it says cool at night, So im thinking that im needing more intake
Cause last night i was doing some checking with exhaust and the intake
seems like the exhaust is doing its job, with it on and the intake off, you can feel the exhaust pull air threw the intake port.and with the fan on it's not really that much difference
BooMeR242
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ok im all caught up now haha took me a lil to read thru but very impressed with ur room build and all the details. also glad to see u built in a floor. i was watching another garage room grow cuz i wanted to do sumthing similar and he put the containers on the cold hard floor and his roots went into shock and took forever to have the stunted plants start growing once he figured it out and put them on pallets.
but for transplanting ud be best of to transplant into final container like sumone else had mentioned. after cloning, transplanting is the second most traumatic experiance a plant can go thru so the less transplanted the better. especially indoors when ure growing at rapid speed compared to like my outdoor grow.
ur exhaust mite wanna bump it up sum. my dad owns a AC company and explained to me about CFM. CFM ratings are only for the fan alone. with no duct work, and when u add longer ducting and a carbon filter it creates "static" which lowers ur CFM. also when u bend the duct work at 90degrees like i thought i miteve seen u cut the velocity in half.
but def stoked to follow this grow and see ur results,
scribed and rep+ for takin care of ur mom!
but for transplanting ud be best of to transplant into final container like sumone else had mentioned. after cloning, transplanting is the second most traumatic experiance a plant can go thru so the less transplanted the better. especially indoors when ure growing at rapid speed compared to like my outdoor grow.
ur exhaust mite wanna bump it up sum. my dad owns a AC company and explained to me about CFM. CFM ratings are only for the fan alone. with no duct work, and when u add longer ducting and a carbon filter it creates "static" which lowers ur CFM. also when u bend the duct work at 90degrees like i thought i miteve seen u cut the velocity in half.
but def stoked to follow this grow and see ur results,
scribed and rep+ for takin care of ur mom!
MyGTO2007
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Thanks Boo Man !!
Yeah thats why i put a floor , i live in Montana..... And Plus if you keep the garage door closed during the day it stays cool in their anyway, but the thought of not having a floor crossed my mind, cause it would've helped keeping the temps down!! was going to suspend them up somehow ........but with the other thought of wanting to seal it all up, over ruled(cause i dont like fucking spiders!!)my Plans!!!
been playing with the exhaust and intake alittle.4hrs of the lights on it was already 86 in their.......so i took off the filter to my intake, that maybe doubled the intake ,that kicked it down about 6 deg, I got another S&P 150 293 cfm coming, to either add to my exhaust or replace my 4'' intake, either way something will work
I was also searching the net on Air movement and neg pressure ,positive pressure and shit like that......Wow thats interesting kindof, especially when you need it for this stuff....yeah its funny you say about the fan is rated for the fan, start adding ducting and shit it takes away CFM's,I read about that today... kinda like the less accessories you have on yer Motor the more HorsePower you will have
and yeah I got some of those 5 gal nursery buckets, will that do the job, or should i go with 7 gal ??
tilemaster
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throw out the mt stays cold thing...i figured the same thing on my venture to grow in this state..but regardless. of that , nature says if u use multilple HID's ...its gonna cook...hmm i recommend moving toward a 6'' can fan for exhaust thats pusing at least 300cfm...if ur heart is set on those 4'' exhausts..you probably will need 2...im fighting same issues in full bud.. ive got 2000w...and 6'' can fan pulln, and a.c rockin still hot. wuts ur exhaust..is it passive...
do u have a elevated subfloor and recessed water heater in ur garage..if so theres a crawl space underneath right? if thats the case ...turn that in2 ur intake from under the house..thatll help alot...
just tryn to help..my main prob in my mt garage grow is the heat..even tho ambient temps are way lower in the garage..vs the house.. get a me..and ya the view vs response things happens..not everybody that looks is prepared to answer..some just shoppn for ideas, not givn input..give and take thing
do u have a elevated subfloor and recessed water heater in ur garage..if so theres a crawl space underneath right? if thats the case ...turn that in2 ur intake from under the house..thatll help alot...
just tryn to help..my main prob in my mt garage grow is the heat..even tho ambient temps are way lower in the garage..vs the house.. get a me..and ya the view vs response things happens..not everybody that looks is prepared to answer..some just shoppn for ideas, not givn input..give and take thing
tilemaster
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and to the other guy with multiple hids...settin pots down on slab aint drawn shit for cold in2 the rootbase..like ur sayn ...cause his listed temp is well above 75 in the sealed op, and so are his containers...see wut i mean...its a heated room..not slowing roots down a bit by placing on slab..in op's case it doesnt make any diff, since hes got the elevated plywood floor..i just think thier too much emphasis on not settn ur pots on slab, when its not considered most big ops are hitting 85 +++ and this no longer matters
jigfresh
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Actually you are on a flyer. Most people get 3 replys from their frist 500 views (in my estimation). You are seriously a popular person, trust me.
And I understand if you have a fear or something, but I love spiders... they only eat insects (well the kind of spiders that hand around the house anyways). I'd rather have spiders, than flies, moths, mosqitos, etc. And some might suggest getting rid of all the insects, but my house is almost 100 years old... hard to fill in all the cracks and holes.
5 gal bags should be fine. I don't do soil, but have read a lot of journals of people who did and they grew really big plants under really big lights in 5 gal bags. That should be fine.
Also exhausting air doesn't necessarily need a filter... especially now. My plants didn't start smelling very much until maybe week 5 or 6 after showing flowers which was about 11-12 weeks after I put the plants in... and those were from clones... my point is you should have at least 3 months before things start "stinking"...
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dankmango
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I did 5 gallon buckets last time and they got to be way too big, you can veg in them for like 3 months before they slow down, then I just pulled them out, beat up their roots, and replanted them on top of some fresh soil in the buckets before flowering so they had space to grow down. I have seen trees in a 5 gallon like 5 feet tall. And yeah you are really popular bro, just remember half this site is kids lookin at dank buds just to look at them, and you dont have any buds yet so they look then leave. no worries just keep on doin your thing
MyGTO2007
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I know......my exhaust is 6'' intake is 4''....but anyway took both filters off last night and temps got to 82,aand humid was @40% 2 hrs before lights out..
and you ask if i have a passive exhaust , whats that mean
MyGTO2007
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i know spiders are good for other insects............and yeah im doing 5 gal's
and being legal not real worried bout smell, just make the trailer court smell good LOL,LOL. just kidding ..
tilemaster
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like if ur rooms not air tight...the exhaust is slurping ur air out of the contained room...but drawing air from ur garage through air leaks..this is passive action..
MyGTO2007
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the room is pretty sealed, look back at some pics of the build, all siding was sealed with sealer...before sheet rock was put on it got sealed........ but i do have 4'' intake fan the is blowing in air....you can here it sucking threw the door cracks and stuff like that.......i got another 6in coming