hey all i need an hydro system

[weedman1999]

hey all i am sure this is another thread somewhere out there, i am looking to switch from dirt to hydro with no idea where to buy the system, so i am looking to you all to direct me to the best place to get as of right now an inexpensive system or a build it yourself system, kiss-asskiss-ass

 

[Roseman]

BUBBLEPONICS™, taking aeroponics to the next level...

$6.47
at Walmart

​

Bubbleponics™ is the art of delivering highly oxygenated nutriently enriched water DIRECTLY to the inner root zone. The days of merely misting the outer roots with nutrient spray are over. Gone too are the days of over/under watering, over/under feeding; the Stealth Hydro Bubbleponic System automatically maintains the ideal oxygen level of the nutrient solution so as to facilitate a healthy thriving root system.

By adding Additional Oxygen, via bubbles, and nutrients to each grow cup, in a slight trickle (not a solid flow) You do not need a timer on the feeding tubes, and the cube or root base will not drown as is possible in a DRIP System.

A DIY Bubbleponics System:


You need an underwater pump, a submersive pump, 150 gph to 250 gph.

Walmart, Lowes, and Home Depot have the pumps. It is a small cheap pump like they use on water fountains in the home or yard.

It sits in the bottom of the tank, under water, here are a few examples:

DuraPump Water Pump - 185 gph
DuraPump Submersible Water Pump - 185 gph

Do an Internet Google Search to find, or Available from www.stealthhydro.com $17.99


DuraPump Water Pump - 240 gphDuraPump Submersible Water Pump - 240 gph
Price: $22.99

Zoom View 250 gph Ryobi Universal Water Pump ​

$17.97/EA Each from Home Depot












You also need a Irrigation Hub, also called an Irrigation Manifold. Many different ones can be found.



DiG Six Outlet Irrigation Manifold DiG Six Outlet Irrigation Manifold
Price: $12.99 420Budman showed us one that Lowes has, he said:

The brand name is MISTER LANDSCAPER. It is in the DRIP IRRIGATION section (even says "drip irrigation" on the package), the technical name for it is PVC SPRINKLER ADAPTER (that is on the package too), the item# is 191779, and the model# is MLA-RA9, and the cost is $10.73. My local Lowes had about 9-10 of them in stock.




Rain Bird Landscape Dripline System 2.0 GPH Manifold #MANIF2-1PK
Available at Bizrate.com, Amazon.com, and Home Depot for $4.99 to $5.99






You connect that Irrigation hub or Irrigation Manifold to the pump, and run 1/4 plastic tubes from the hub to each grow cup, to look like this:

You can use an 8 gallon tote as seen in above pic, (with 6 gallons of water) or a 5 gallon bucket, with 4 gallons of water.


You need an AIR PUMP:

$12.99 for Dual or two airstones

VERY Quiet, $9.95 to $19.95, depending on size.

Any place that sells Aquariums has them, like PetCo, Pet Smart, Walmart. They will have the airpumps and tubes and airstones.

There are 6, 8, 10 and 12 inch long airstones for aquariums, like this one:

Airstones are $3.99 to $5.99 depending on lenght.
You can also find round ones, and long AIR DIFFUSERS that make large curtains of air bubbles in the tank.

As the water in the tank BUBBLES, that Bubbley water is pumped to each cup, creating the most rapid growth rate a young sprout or clone can experience.

Look at the dates of these pics, at the growth rate. Also notice the small runts started the same day in soil.

4 days later:

Get roots like these:

and plants like this:

More pics at the link here: My PICS

 

[Roseman]

DWC SYSTEMS


Stealth Hydro

 

[laserbrn]

DWC SYSTEMS


Stealth Hydro

Bubbleponics is great for the super-small time grower. If you're growing in a closet with CFL's it's great. If you're looking to get lots and lots of dank buds I would go with a traditional Ebb & Flow tray. Easy to manage and easy to work with.

Don't get me wrong, I love bubbleponics (the way it works), but I hate implementing it for larger grows. The space between the plants is too small in most designs to allow the plants to grow without one dwarfing the others generally. It's also quite a pain when you have to have basically a lidded reservoir that large.

 

[Roseman]

I now start my plants in the Bubbleponics Kit, (it is a Starter Kit) for two or three weeks, and then transfer to 5 gallon DWC buckets.

 

[panta]

I now start my plants in the Bubbleponics Kit, (it is a Starter Kit) for two or three weeks, and then transfer to 5 gallon DWC buckets.

i want to make a bigger growroom but dont know yet what system to use,been growing in soil for a year and now im thinking hydro so can u help me,in a dwc system with a seperate reservoir whats the maximum nuber of pots and do i need a water chiller,i will have a ac in the room and co2 and about 6000w

 

[Roseman]

i want to make a bigger growroom but dont know yet what system to use,been growing in soil for a year and now im thinking hydro so can u help me,in a dwc system with a seperate reservoir whats the maximum nuber of pots and do i need a water chiller,i will have a ac in the room and co2 and about 6000w

I've seen many new Hydro growers learn the hard way that you do not want a very large tank or resorvoir..like 30 gallons is way too large...more water = more work.....I suggest a 8 gallon tank, with 6 gallons of water, and either 4 or 5 or 6 grow cups.

If you do not use HID lights, or IF you DO have A/C, then you do not need a water chiller.
I start with seeds, and use a 6 cup tank. I ALWAYS get 3 female and 3 females so I have plenty of room for the 3 to Flower. Often I remove one or two and put them in a 5 gallon bucket and I have had two in one 5 gallon bucket. It is fine for the roots to tangle and fill up the tank. That is no problem.

 

[panta]

I've seen many new Hydro growers learn the hard way that you do not want a very large tank or resorvoir..like 30 gallons is way too large...more water = more work.....I suggest a 8 gallon tank, with 6 gallons of water, and either 4 or 5 or 6 grow cups.

If you do not use HID lights, or IF you DO have A/C, then you do not need a water chiller.
I start with seeds, and use a 6 cup tank. I ALWAYS get 3 female and 3 females so I have plenty of room for the 3 to Flower. Often I remove one or two and put them in a 5 gallon bucket and I have had two in one 5 gallon bucket. It is fine for the roots to tangle and fill up the tank. That is no problem.

tell me what would u do if u were seting up a 6000w flower room thats 10 x 600w or maybe 6 x 1000w i never had a 1000w but i heard alot of people say that more 600 cover the area better, AC,co2,climate controle,dihumidifier and all that.RIght now i have a 2.5kw setup in soil so i got some free space and i want to go hydro im sick of getting dirty all the time,can u advise me in any way like how many plants should i rum under each light and i want to make it as automated as possible was thinking less bigger plants and whats the most reliable low maintenance hydro system

 

[panta]

I've seen many new Hydro growers learn the hard way that you do not want a very large tank or resorvoir..like 30 gallons is way too large...more water = more work.....I suggest a 8 gallon tank, with 6 gallons of water, and either 4 or 5 or 6 grow cups.

If you do not use HID lights, or IF you DO have A/C, then you do not need a water chiller.
I start with seeds, and use a 6 cup tank. I ALWAYS get 3 female and 3 females so I have plenty of room for the 3 to Flower. Often I remove one or two and put them in a 5 gallon bucket and I have had two in one 5 gallon bucket. It is fine for the roots to tangle and fill up the tank. That is no problem.

i dont have the experience to know this but i thought the larger the reservoir the less i would have to work on it,thats if u have a continuous ph/ec meter in it and a water supply to it

 

[dbo24242]

how many plants are you gonna be growing?

for 6,000w system I'm guessing over 100 plants, setting up 100 dwc buckets or totes is a lot of work, especially if you have to seal them all so you can use a feeder and automate it that is just going to be difficult, but possible.

you are looking at a big system, you will need access to the main water line and a nice large water pump/air pump.
I think you might be best doing NFT using gutters, fenceposts, or larger PVC piping w/ 3" or so netcups. Set up the gutters in such a way that you pump solution into them on one end and it runs through everywhere and our back into the reservoir, which should be aerated with an air pump. run the water pump periodically, like 5 minutes every half hour, for which you need a hydroponic timer.

 

[dbo24242]

hey all i am sure this is another thread somewhere out there, i am looking to switch from dirt to hydro with no idea where to buy the system, so i am looking to you all to direct me to the best place to get as of right now an inexpensive system or a build it yourself system, kiss-asskiss-ass

parts list for simple dwc:

reservoir w/ lid
hole saws and drill
air line, 1/4" tubing
air pump
air stones
netcups
hydroton/diatomite/etc.
nutrients
water
plants in starters (rockwool, rapid rooters, stg, etc)

 

[Roseman]

tell me what would u do if u were seting up a 6000w flower room thats 10 x 600w or maybe 6 x 1000w i never had a 1000w but i heard alot of people say that more 600 cover the area better, AC,co2,climate controle,dihumidifier and all that.RIght now i have a 2.5kw setup in soil so i got some free space and i want to go hydro im sick of getting dirty all the time,can u advise me in any way like how many plants should i rum under each light and i want to make it as automated as possible was thinking less bigger plants and whats the most reliable low maintenance hydro system

That is too too much for me, bro, I am a small walk-in CLOSET grower.........although I have crammed 15 plants in one closet.............and got 8 females................16 ounces of dried manicured buds.

I don't know how to set up a grow room.

Lights? I do know.

You need a bare minimum of 3000 lumens per sq ft. to jsut grow,
and 10,000 lumens is MAX and most desirable, per square foot for the most thriving effieciency.
Metal halide: 90 lumens/watt
High pressure sodium: 107 lumens/watt

so you get an average of about 100 lumens per watt, with your lights.

So, figure you square footage and divide.

 

[olosto]

If your looking for a larger setup check out the ebb and flood tables in my sig. Its the same construction if you buy talbes or make your own.

Get a big res.. Keeps everything much more stable! DWC is nice for smaller grows but when you have 8-20 5 gallon DWC buckets running.. Its loud and a major pain in the ass!

 

[nick17gar]

hey roseman, how big of pots do you have those big plants in? and what kind of water you pumping thru there? i gotta say the roots on those plants are impressive.

 

[nick17gar]

and where is that tube going? just in the mesh pots chilling? im shocked man i may rethink my whole set up

 

[Roseman]

hey roseman, how big of pots do you have those big plants in? and what kind of water you pumping thru there? i gotta say the roots on those plants are impressive.

Roots?





I use 2 8 gallon totes (tanks) and 2 five gallon buckets in a small walk in closet, about two feet wide and ten feet long.

 

[Roseman]

and where is that tube going? just in the mesh pots chilling? im shocked man i may rethink my whole set up

There is a under water (submersive) pump, in the bottom of the tank. It pumps water to a hub, and then 6 tubes take it to each cup and rockwool cube. Makes an amazing fast grow.

also look here:
My DIY Bubbleponics DWC

 

[dbo24242]

There is a under water (submersive) pump, in the bottom of the tank. It pumps water to a hub, and then 6 tubes take it to each cup and rockwool cube. Makes an amazing fast grow.

also makes it so you don't have to fill the res as full, since the water is delivered by the lines.

 

[laserbrn]

Roots?





I use 2 8 gallon totes (tanks) and 2 five gallon buckets in a small walk in closet, about two feet wide and ten feet long.

Yikes! That's a giant commercial for HID's. What an annoying disaster those CFL's are!

 

[Roseman]

also makes it so you don't have to fill the res as full, since the water is delivered by the lines.

Absolutely right!

You got a 4 or 5 inch AIR POCKET under the lid, and oxygen and nutrient enriched water is trickling down each and every root, as it rests in the deep water, eating, drinking and growing.