Obama ... He's Lookin' Good!

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PadawanBater

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Well... it'll be a cold day in the hell that doesn't exist when a secular man gets elected president...

I see a gay, liberal, she-male becoming president before an atheist. Sad reality right there...

Fuck Fundie Fucktards.
 
natrone23

natrone23

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PadawanBater said:
Well... it'll be a cold day in the hell that doesn't exist when a secular man gets elected president...

I see a gay, liberal, she-male becoming president before an atheist. Sad reality right there...

Fuck Fundie Fucktards.
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These old people need to die
 
GrowTech

GrowTech

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When will people realize that being agnostic is the absolute best thing you could do for the world. Stop claiming who is right, and who is wrong- and start admitting to the fact that you have no fucking clue, and it doesn't matter either way. :)
 
CrackerJax

CrackerJax

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Yes, that's my standard answer.... "I don't know"...no one does...isn't that why we all fight about it (as nations even)
 
bicycle racer

bicycle racer

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i dont think people become more religious with age its just older generations seem to be more religious in general. hopefully as new generations are born they will think more freely with there decision to be religious atheist or other and not feel the need to promote it unless someone asks.
 
CrackerJax

CrackerJax

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You forget the number one tenant of the church...get them while they are young.

If you were raised sans religion and then at the age of 18, your parents sat you down and gave you the Bible to read, and then after you were finished reading it, they told you this was what they believe......you'd pack your bags... CYA!! Holey Moley...
 
FilthyFletch

FilthyFletch

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Ok been away for couple days and just reading and catching up... Back to the question I was asked of why I would loose my small businesses under Obama. Yiou quoted Obama original Campaign stand of $250,000 but that number was never a real number and before he even was elected that number was whittled down to $175000 and now is actually closer to $125000 but thats only a small factopr of what the issues will be. As a isaid one of my companys and my main life blood is being in the trades which Obama is attemtping to sufficate. He wants to add an additional $1.75 per gallon gasoline tax, has cut as much funding for fossil fuel development and exploration as possible, and has drawn up several transportation and usage taxes that will just kill a smaller contractor as myself. He is giving 2 option one will be large engines in the v-8 catagory will be a banned item by 2010 if he has his way as he considers them not needed and a pollution only contributor. So my work truck i need to pull trailers haul tonage of material and carry tools and building supplies will not be avaliable and in his other roposal a heavy usage tax would be an option for thiose who broke his demand and I would have to pay around a $5800 usage tax per vehicle to use it and then an additional milegae tax per mile I used meaning about $12000 a year per vehicle just to work. Can't afford that no way no small tradesman can and 4x8 sheets do not fit in Priuses. Now he would and has implimented all cars must get 44 miles to the gallon by 2010 and pass a new nation wide higher emmissions test to get plates and licensing meaning the test is based lione on new hybred alternative fuel small cars so a work vehicle will not physically be able to pass that mesaning you will not be able to license a work truck so you will be forcede into a new vehicle with less power, room and usability. You will get an $1800 credit towards a new vehicle that meets these regulations but that cost will be moot as the cost the car makers will have to pass on to make these cars will bve 3 times the amount of the credit given so he just hit me agaiun. Then he is proposing a milage usage fee which would be hooked into a system like Ipass or ezpass where your car reports milegae between charge times and then you get a bill for the milegae and if not paid it would be like an unpaid fine and your tags would be cited as revoked until paid. Now toss his cap and trade taxes on the utilities such as electric and gas and communications office usage even at home the bill will be enormous and not feasible. He also has put into place the removal of cell phone business usage tax credit so you can not deduct your cell as a business exspense as he says cell phones are now such common personal use there is no seperation so that tax credit is gone.Now my internet businesses which used to mean no tax sales online has been removed and all internet sales will now be taxed so I will now loose customers who will now buy elsewhere as the taxes will make the price no lower with the shipping fee and wait so why bother to buy online might just pay the higher local price since no savings online. that kills my other businesses so yeah I cant survive as a little guy trying to make it on his own. Now on to other posts. Palin I wcouldnt vote for president. She does a good job as Gov of Alaska but thats way different then running the country and I personally do not think she is intelligent enough or prepared for that. She has found a way to return all stimulous money to the federal government and even pays the states residents a check each year sharing in its profit from state funds so the better the state does the resident get s share almost like a stock investment and it works nicely there....On Obama being a well spoken person guess we see a different person as Obama took speech classes to learn the speaking cadence of JFK and Mrtin Luther King you take away his telprompter or write speech and he cant speak his own name without flubbering around. he is not smart by any means and that was obvious here in Illinois his few years in the senate. He screwed us here and people who voted for him based on his ethnicity used the ignborant vote. You have to be honest he got a large minority vote from those who know nothing about him or politics but felt an african american in the white house would mean help for them. He used that and screwed the uneducated population that he got to be first time voters. Did Obama make all these issues ? no but he came in and just tosses gas on them every day by the gallon. he has no idea what he is doing and made the problems so much worst then what they were and did it in a fraction of time. the damage he did in 6 months was actually more then the damge of the last 30 years. thats the issue not that he is black or a democrate he is just not very intelligent and he is weak and lazy. he doesnt think and doesnt take the time to learn protocol or fallout projections. he just decided hes doing it and does it.If I had the option last election i would have voted for Powell but he wont run. All I know now is we need new blood with a realistic head on thier shoulders so we have to clean the senate and House of all the old blood and bring in new and start fresh with a president who knows this has to be done in phases and not overnight. Tossing moeny ona fire will not put it out
 
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PadawanBater

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CrackerJax said:
You forget the number one tenant of the church...get them while they are young.

If you were raised sans religion and then at the age of 18, your parents sat you down and gave you the Bible to read, and then after you were finished reading it, they told you this was what they believe......you'd pack your bags... CYA!! Holey Moley...
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Exactly.

Teaching religion to a child is simply child abuse, I don't care what religion you believe in.
 
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FilthyFletch said:
Ok been away for couple days and just reading and catching up... Back to the question I was asked of why I would loose my small businesses under Obama. Yiou quoted Obama original Campaign stand of $250,000 but that number was never a real number and before he even was elected that number was whittled down to $175000 and now is actually closer to $125000 but thats only a small factopr of what the issues will be. As a isaid one of my companys and my main life blood is being in the trades which Obama is attemtping to sufficate. He wants to add an additional $1.75 per gallon gasoline tax, has cut as much funding for fossil fuel development and exploration as possible, and has drawn up several transportation and usage taxes that will just kill a smaller contractor as myself. He is giving 2 option one will be large engines in the v-8 catagory will be a banned item by 2010 if he has his way as he considers them not needed and a pollution only contributor. So my work truck i need to pull trailers haul tonage of material and carry tools and building supplies will not be avaliable and in his other roposal a heavy usage tax would be an option for thiose who broke his demand and I would have to pay around a $5800 usage tax per vehicle to use it and then an additional milegae tax per mile I used meaning about $12000 a year per vehicle just to work. Can't afford that no way no small tradesman can and 4x8 sheets do not fit in Priuses. Now he would and has implimented all cars must get 44 miles to the gallon by 2010 and pass a new nation wide higher emmissions test to get plates and licensing meaning the test is based lione on new hybred alternative fuel small cars so a work vehicle will not physically be able to pass that mesaning you will not be able to license a work truck so you will be forcede into a new vehicle with less power, room and usability. You will get an $1800 credit towards a new vehicle that meets these regulations but that cost will be moot as the cost the car makers will have to pass on to make these cars will bve 3 times the amount of the credit given so he just hit me agaiun. Then he is proposing a milage usage fee which would be hooked into a system like Ipass or ezpass where your car reports milegae between charge times and then you get a bill for the milegae and if not paid it would be like an unpaid fine and your tags would be cited as revoked until paid. Now toss his cap and trade taxes on the utilities such as electric and gas and communications office usage even at home the bill will be enormous and not feasible. He also has put into place the removal of cell phone business usage tax credit so you can not deduct your cell as a business exspense as he says cell phones are now such common personal use there is no seperation so that tax credit is gone.Now my internet businesses which used to mean no tax sales online has been removed and all internet sales will now be taxed so I will now loose customers who will now buy elsewhere as the taxes will make the price no lower with the shipping fee and wait so why bother to buy online might just pay the higher local price since no savings online. that kills my other businesses so yeah I cant survive as a little guy trying to make it on his own. Now on to other posts. Palin I wcouldnt vote for president. She does a good job as Gov of Alaska but thats way different then running the country and I personally do not think she is intelligent enough or prepared for that. She has found a way to return all stimulous money to the federal government and even pays the states residents a check each year sharing in its profit from state funds so the better the state does the resident get s share almost like a stock investment and it works nicely there....On Obama being a well spoken person guess we see a different person as Obama took speech classes to learn the speaking cadence of JFK and Mrtin Luther King you take away his telprompter or write speech and he cant speak his own name without flubbering around. he is not smart by any means and that was obvious here in Illinois his few years in the senate. He screwed us here and people who voted for him based on his ethnicity used the ignborant vote. You have to be honest he got a large minority vote from those who know nothing about him or politics but felt an african american in the white house would mean help for them. He used that and screwed the uneducated population that he got to be first time voters. Did Obama make all these issues ? no but he came in and just tosses gas on them every day by the gallon. he has no idea what he is doing and made the problems so much worst then what they were and did it in a fraction of time. the damage he did in 6 months was actually more then the damge of the last 30 years. thats the issue not that he is black or a democrate he is just not very intelligent and he is weak and lazy. he doesnt think and doesnt take the time to learn protocol or fallout projections. he just decided hes doing it and does it.If I had the option last election i would have voted for Powell but he wont run. All I know now is we need new blood with a realistic head on thier shoulders so we have to clean the senate and House of all the old blood and bring in new and start fresh with a president who knows this has to be done in phases and not overnight. Tossing moeny ona fire will not put it out
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I'd be glad to respond to this Filthy if you'd simply provide some links to some sources.

You said a lot of stuff in the first few sentences that I've never heard about, could you link me somewhere showing me some information?
 
medicineman

medicineman

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FilthyFletch said:
Ok been away for couple days and just reading and catching up... Back to the question I was asked of why I would loose my small businesses under Obama. Yiou quoted Obama original Campaign stand of $250,000 but that number was never a real number and before he even was elected that number was whittled down to $175000 and now is actually closer to $125000 but thats only a small factopr of what the issues will be. As a isaid one of my companys and my main life blood is being in the trades which Obama is attemtping to sufficate. He wants to add an additional $1.75 per gallon gasoline tax, has cut as much funding for fossil fuel development and exploration as possible, and has drawn up several transportation and usage taxes that will just kill a smaller contractor as myself. He is giving 2 option one will be large engines in the v-8 catagory will be a banned item by 2010 if he has his way as he considers them not needed and a pollution only contributor. So my work truck i need to pull trailers haul tonage of material and carry tools and building supplies will not be avaliable and in his other roposal a heavy usage tax would be an option for thiose who broke his demand and I would have to pay around a $5800 usage tax per vehicle to use it and then an additional milegae tax per mile I used meaning about $12000 a year per vehicle just to work. Can't afford that no way no small tradesman can and 4x8 sheets do not fit in Priuses. Now he would and has implimented all cars must get 44 miles to the gallon by 2010 and pass a new nation wide higher emmissions test to get plates and licensing meaning the test is based lione on new hybred alternative fuel small cars so a work vehicle will not physically be able to pass that mesaning you will not be able to license a work truck so you will be forcede into a new vehicle with less power, room and usability. You will get an $1800 credit towards a new vehicle that meets these regulations but that cost will be moot as the cost the car makers will have to pass on to make these cars will bve 3 times the amount of the credit given so he just hit me agaiun. Then he is proposing a milage usage fee which would be hooked into a system like Ipass or ezpass where your car reports milegae between charge times and then you get a bill for the milegae and if not paid it would be like an unpaid fine and your tags would be cited as revoked until paid. Now toss his cap and trade taxes on the utilities such as electric and gas and communications office usage even at home the bill will be enormous and not feasible. He also has put into place the removal of cell phone business usage tax credit so you can not deduct your cell as a business exspense as he says cell phones are now such common personal use there is no seperation so that tax credit is gone.Now my internet businesses which used to mean no tax sales online has been removed and all internet sales will now be taxed so I will now loose customers who will now buy elsewhere as the taxes will make the price no lower with the shipping fee and wait so why bother to buy online might just pay the higher local price since no savings online. that kills my other businesses so yeah I cant survive as a little guy trying to make it on his own. Now on to other posts. Palin I wcouldnt vote for president. She does a good job as Gov of Alaska but thats way different then running the country and I personally do not think she is intelligent enough or prepared for that. She has found a way to return all stimulous money to the federal government and even pays the states residents a check each year sharing in its profit from state funds so the better the state does the resident get s share almost like a stock investment and it works nicely there....On Obama being a well spoken person guess we see a different person as Obama took speech classes to learn the speaking cadence of JFK and Mrtin Luther King you take away his telprompter or write speech and he cant speak his own name without flubbering around. he is not smart by any means and that was obvious here in Illinois his few years in the senate. He screwed us here and people who voted for him based on his ethnicity used the ignborant vote. You have to be honest he got a large minority vote from those who know nothing about him or politics but felt an african american in the white house would mean help for them. He used that and screwed the uneducated population that he got to be first time voters. Did Obama make all these issues ? no but he came in and just tosses gas on them every day by the gallon. he has no idea what he is doing and made the problems so much worst then what they were and did it in a fraction of time. the damage he did in 6 months was actually more then the damge of the last 30 years. thats the issue not that he is black or a democrate he is just not very intelligent and he is weak and lazy. he doesnt think and doesnt take the time to learn protocol or fallout projections. he just decided hes doing it and does it.If I had the option last election i would have voted for Powell but he wont run. All I know now is we need new blood with a realistic head on thier shoulders so we have to clean the senate and House of all the old blood and bring in new and start fresh with a president who knows this has to be done in phases and not overnight. Tossing moeny ona fire will not put it out
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So, where do you get all these "Facts". I call Bullshit! Not intelligent, I suppose unlike you? He was the editor of the Harvard law review for christs sake
 
natrone23

natrone23

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medicineman said:
So, where do you get all these "Facts". I call Bullshit! Not intelligent, I suppose unlike you? He was the editor of the Harvard law review for christs sake
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Its pretty funny isn't it.........carpenters an A/C repairman questioning Obama's intelligence..........Oh Lawdy lol
 
medicineman

medicineman

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natrone23 said:
Its pretty funny isn't it.........carpenters an A/C repairman questioning Obama's intelligence..........Oh Lawdy lol
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Actually, if it wasn't so pathetic, I guess I could see the humor in it. I mean, how can a poor boy from a half muslim family rise to the presidency of the USA without being smart, real fucking smart, especially with the muslim name. All one has to do is watch the man in action to know he is a cut above. His genuine and completely candid smile is what really won me over. The haters see that in a different light, I realize that.
 
ChChoda

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medicineman said:
I mean, how can a poor boy from a half muslim family rise to the presidency of the USA without being smart, real fucking smart, especially with the muslim name.
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Being a half black American liberal, in addition to those other bleeding heart conditions you described, couldn't hurt. Remember now, intelligence is frowned upon in those circles. Biden is VP, isn't he?
 
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