4x1000 +co2+9 strains+=good times

DaGambler

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heh heh. hey, what's up bro. i'm guessing you'll pull a bit over 6 lbs. no problem. but i guess you can't count ur chickens 'till ther dry.

you can trim a decent size plant in about 15 minutes if you set your mind to it. lay down the scissors. move the pot in front of a chair. sit down and quickly strip off all the fan leaves from top to bottom by hand. if they aren't covered in trichomes you may want to pinch off 1 to 3 fan leaves from each individual bud (those toward the bottom of the bud). Use ur fingers to nip leaves shorter if they are only half covered in trichomes. pick up the scissors and nip off the largest top buds individually. lay down the scissors. put the base of a branch/stem between ur middle finger and ur ring finger palm up... squeeze ur vulcan death grip 'live long and prosper' fingers together and slide ur hand up the stem popping off all the smaller buds. repeat on each stem/branch. 15 minutes.

throw the buds into open paper lunch sacks... more than 60 or so grams per sack and you'll have to 'toss' the middle buds to the outside or top of the sack every other day till dried to 1/4 the original harvest weight.

those bud trimmers beat the hell out of the weed. can't imagine how many trichomes they rip off. and damn near all of them are busted open. so you got sticky bud that loses potency quickly 'cuz all the trichomes are ruptured. i'd stay away from anything mechanical unless ur actually trying to knock trichomes off to make hash or something. if you want a 'sharper' trim on the bud themselves you could splurge on a 45 dollar pair of electric clippers/scissors/shears just for nipping off some of the leaves that stick out from the buds.

start on the plants that finish first. and expect that it will take you several days. knock out enough of it that you know you'll be able to finish the rest when saturday and sunday come. even if its an all day, two day affair. I just did 4.5 lbs. myself not too long ago... so keep ur head up :D and deffinitely pass on having anyone other than ur significant other helping you. but you already knew that bongsmilie deffinitely not such a bad problem to have. :peace:
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simpsonsampson420

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first off like gypsy said, 1 gram per watt should be a standard.. you should want with 6000w to yield at least that many grams... that is about 13.5 pounds.. but you shouldnt settle for anything less than .5 grams per watt.. so you should still be expecting at least 3000 grams... so thats about 6.5 lbs or a little more.... if you arent hitting that bro your wasting money somewhere... but if you are planning a lb a light then you should be right on with the .5 gram...

my last grow was all sorts of fucked up for many many reasons... i wont thread jack and go in it, but in the end i still managed to snag a little less than that... and i had 3 or more plants per pot (long story again) plus all the other stress, so you should easily surpass your goal..

an i agree.. i would never use a trimmer.. but i also wouldnt have a ton of people in my house... it makes trimming a longer process.. thats the shit part.. but sit down stoned and go at it...

if you dont have the time to do it, ie 12 hour days, then it could mean your stuck getting one to speed it up... or at least letting someone very close to you or that already knows in on the trimming... if you even feel comfortable with that... but again, if that doesnt work and you cant do it yourself then a trimmer maybe the answer....

if you do get a trimmer i guess the only thing i would say is dont skimp... im sure you get what you paid for.. and your gonna want a super fucking sharp cutting edge...

other than that guys.. lets all just pass one around and mellow out.. no need to get enraged about shit... lol to each their own... different strokes for different folks... bongsmilie
 

JACKMAYOFFER

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heh heh. hey, what's up bro. i'm guessing you'll pull a bit over 6 lbs. no problem. but i guess you can't count ur chickens 'till ther dry.

you can trim a decent size plant in about 15 minutes if you set your mind to it. lay down the scissors. move the pot in front of a chair. sit down and quickly strip off all the fan leaves from top to bottom by hand. if they aren't covered in trichomes you may want to pinch off 1 to 3 fan leaves from each individual bud (those toward the bottom of the bud). Use ur fingers to nip leaves shorter if they are only half covered in trichomes. pick up the scissors and nip off the largest top buds individually. lay down the scissors. put the base of a branch/stem between ur middle finger and ur ring finger palm up... squeeze ur vulcan death grip 'live long and prosper' fingers together and slide ur hand up the stem popping off all the smaller buds. repeat on each stem/branch. 15 minutes.

throw the buds into open paper lunch sacks... more than 60 or so grams per sack and you'll have to 'toss' the middle buds to the outside or top of the sack every other day till dried to 1/4 the original harvest weight.

those bud trimmers beat the hell out of the weed. can't imagine how many trichomes they rip off. and damn near all of them are busted open. so you got sticky bud that loses potency quickly 'cuz all the trichomes are ruptured. i'd stay away from anything mechanical unless ur actually trying to knock trichomes off to make hash or something. if you want a 'sharper' trim on the bud themselves you could splurge on a 45 dollar pair of electric clippers/scissors/shears just for nipping off some of the leaves that stick out from the buds.

start on the plants that finish first. and expect that it will take you several days. knock out enough of it that you know you'll be able to finish the rest when saturday and sunday come. even if its an all day, two day affair. I just did 4.5 lbs. myself not too long ago... so keep ur head up :D and deffinitely pass on having anyone other than ur significant other helping you. but you already knew that bongsmilie deffinitely not such a bad problem to have. :peace:
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Thanks brother thats some good info rite there read it twice and will read it again.:mrgreen: So you dont hang your buds just straight to paper bags?
first off like gypsy said, 1 gram per watt should be a standard.. you should want with 6000w to yield at least that many grams... that is about 13.5 pounds.. but you shouldnt settle for anything less than .5 grams per watt.. so you should still be expecting at least 3000 grams... so thats about 6.5 lbs or a little more.... if you arent hitting that bro your wasting money somewhere... but if you are planning a lb a light then you should be right on with the .5 gram...

my last grow was all sorts of fucked up for many many reasons... i wont thread jack and go in it, but in the end i still managed to snag a little less than that... and i had 3 or more plants per pot (long story again) plus all the other stress, so you should easily surpass your goal..

an i agree.. i would never use a trimmer.. but i also wouldnt have a ton of people in my house... it makes trimming a longer process.. thats the shit part.. but sit down stoned and go at it...

if you dont have the time to do it, ie 12 hour days, then it could mean your stuck getting one to speed it up... or at least letting someone very close to you or that already knows in on the trimming... if you even feel comfortable with that... but again, if that doesnt work and you cant do it yourself then a trimmer maybe the answer....

if you do get a trimmer i guess the only thing i would say is dont skimp... im sure you get what you paid for.. and your gonna want a super fucking sharp cutting edge...

other than that guys.. lets all just pass one around and mellow out.. no need to get enraged about shit... lol to each their own... different strokes for different folks... bongsmilie
Thanks SIMPSONSAMPSON I will make the decesion today on what im going to do the GREEN CRACK is looking like its ready and I could always trim those by hand there is only 6....Do you hang your buds or straight to bags ,Jars ,plastic containers..?
 

simpsonsampson420

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after i trim them (by hand.. lol) i hang them for about 5 to 7 days.. i try to keep the room around 70f and RH around 55%...

after they have dried to the point that the stem breaks, but doesnt crack (still a little flex in it) i trim the buds from the stems and fill mason jars.. i try to set the buds in the jars so they are facing upwards.. it could my own superstition but i think you lose less trichs this way..

i fill the jars about 2/3 to 3/4 full, making sure there is enough room around the buds for them to breath...

i leave them in the jars for another 5 to 7 days... making sure to burp the jars 3 to 4 times a day...

this seems to work well for me.. the longer they are in the jars the better they get too.. i after the week i start smoking out of the jars enough i dont have to burp them...
 

natrone23

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after i trim them (by hand.. lol) i hang them for about 5 to 7 days.. i try to keep the room around 70f and RH around 55%...

after they have dried to the point that the stem breaks, but doesnt crack (still a little flex in it) i trim the buds from the stems and fill mason jars.. i try to set the buds in the jars so they are facing upwards.. it could my own superstition but i think you lose less trichs this way..

i fill the jars about 2/3 to 3/4 full, making sure there is enough room around the buds for them to breath...

i leave them in the jars for another 5 to 7 days... making sure to burp the jars 3 to 4 times a day...

this seems to work well for me.. the longer they are in the jars the better they get too.. i after the week i start smoking out of the jars enough i dont have to burp them...
Thats exactly the way I do itbongsmilie

I don't know what the bigger guys do to cure, 10p's sounds like alot Glass jars lol. I guess some kinda large tupper ware is what they use.
 

JACKMAYOFFER

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omg. did you hit the lottery or sumthin? lol
No just have a job been there 13 years and make a really good living..I just happen to smoke weed and I am also trying to help out the medical community..:mrgreen: bongsmilie
after i trim them (by hand.. lol) i hang them for about 5 to 7 days.. i try to keep the room around 70f and RH around 55%...

after they have dried to the point that the stem breaks, but doesnt crack (still a little flex in it) i trim the buds from the stems and fill mason jars.. i try to set the buds in the jars so they are facing upwards.. it could my own superstition but i think you lose less trichs this way..

i fill the jars about 2/3 to 3/4 full, making sure there is enough room around the buds for them to breath...

i leave them in the jars for another 5 to 7 days... making sure to burp the jars 3 to 4 times a day...

this seems to work well for me.. the longer they are in the jars the better they get too.. i after the week i start smoking out of the jars enough i dont have to burp them...
Perfecet thanks I also hear you can dry in the same room as long as your above the lights...
Thats exactly the way I do itbongsmilie

I don't know what the bigger guys do to cure, 10p's sounds like alot Glass jars lol. I guess some kinda large tupper ware is what they use.
i just have a LOT of glass jars.... and an entire cabinet dedicated to the storage of said jars..
Can I use tupper wear the good stuff that seals?
 

Smokiethebear

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What I like to do is start cutting branches and the when all the plants are down I take the branches and really fast I "shape" them by cutting off everything that is sticking out then when that is done I go back and do my final trim this is where you choose how much you want to take off and how much you want to keep personally I keep everything with sugar...as to the hanging I think it makes for better bag appeal you get them nice tear drop buds...the smaller one I put on a screen
 

LacyLePlant

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Amazing, Lacy gives 3 thumbs up, i just read your whole thread over the past couple nights! Im such a stoner i didnt even realize that its a recent thread! How long are you going to wait before you throw your new batch in? Are you thinking of doing one strain this time? Oh, and one question Sir, how often did you flush your room?, I know you didnt have a fan to flush, but did you open the door to let in fresh oxygen? The reason im asking is, ive always been weary of stale Co2, but looks like your bitches had no problem! Now you got me thinking bout doing soil!! Bravo Jack, Bravo!!!!!!
 

simpsonsampson420

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i have dried above my lights before.. they dry to quick for my taste.. well what may actually happen is the outsides of the buds can dry faster than the inside.. leaving excess moisture.. and it could possibly lead to mold/mildew during curing.. but as long as you check the buds first you shouldnt have any problems..

and yea.. you can use tupperware.. i did a couple times in a pinch.. you want the good sealing ones like you said.. but they work.. i just like mason jars because of how many you can fit in a small area... and they are really cheap...
 

JACKMAYOFFER

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i have dried above my lights before.. they dry to quick for my taste.. well what may actually happen is the outsides of the buds can dry faster than the inside.. leaving excess moisture.. and it could possibly lead to mold/mildew during curing.. but as long as you check the buds first you shouldnt have any problems..

and yea.. you can use tupperware.. i did a couple times in a pinch.. you want the good sealing ones like you said.. but they work.. i just like mason jars because of how many you can fit in a small area... and they are really cheap...
Thanks for all the great info in the last 3 months I have used your grow journal as a back up.:-P when ever I need info You and TM ,Degambler ,Gypsy,Raider man have always been a big help thanks bro...The ladies have had a full week of flushing Final Phase and purple max. I will continue to flush. I will continue checking often for amber trichs... Sunday wil be day 59 so its getting close ..:clap: :weed:
 

JACKMAYOFFER

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What I like to do is start cutting branches and the when all the plants are down I take the branches and really fast I "shape" them by cutting off everything that is sticking out then when that is done I go back and do my final trim this is where you choose how much you want to take off and how much you want to keep personally I keep everything with sugar...as to the hanging I think it makes for better bag appeal you get them nice tear drop buds...the smaller one I put on a screen
Thanks im going to hang them..
Amazing, Lacy gives 3 thumbs up, i just read your whole thread over the past couple nights! Im such a stoner i didnt even realize that its a recent thread! How long are you going to wait before you throw your new batch in? Are you thinking of doing one strain this time? Oh, and one question Sir, how often did you flush your room?, I know you didnt have a fan to flush, but did you open the door to let in fresh oxygen? The reason im asking is, ive always been weary of stale Co2, but looks like your bitches had no problem! Now you got me thinking bout doing soil!! Bravo Jack, Bravo!!!!!!
I Have a batch in veg ready to go I will only be down a couple days for clean up and some minor construction I went to the Hydro store today and bought a shit load of new toys for my next run some lights as well as... Well Your gonna have to wait until I can get some pics and figure out how to put all this new shit together..:mrgreen: I do not flush my room the CO2 slowly dissapates and leaks out and when it drops below 1500 ppm the selonoid fires and releases co2. The air is scrubbed with a can 150 and a 750 cfm fan it cleans the air in side the room..Next run will be 4 strains..The DEEP CHUNCK X STRAWBERRY COUGH is a keeper she is covered in sugar like she's been trippled dipped.And the BUBBA X MASTER KUSH has 4 different shades of purple.The deapest purple I have ever seen on a MJ plant,,:hump::mrgreen: dropping the night temps and using purple max brings out the purple big time... :weed::clap:
 

theloadeddragon

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very very nice...... awesome grow... can't wait to see the results... subscribed of course (where the hell have I been the last 3 months?)
 

DaGambler

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I Have a batch in veg ready to go I will only be down a couple days for clean up and some minor construction...
Nice.

about the drying, ya - i go straight to paper lunch sacks. i weigh the sack right away on a digital scale. so you got say 100 or more lunch sacks lined up on a wire shelf... after a few days you start throwing them on a scale every other day. You know that those down to 1/4 the start weight (minus like 7.7 grams for the paper bag) are almost completely dry. Putting them into a plastic bag and closing it up after 'snugging' it together allows the remaining moisture to even out. A few days later you open up the bag and make sure that the center of the bag doesn't feel any cooler (moister) to the the touch than the stuff on the outside.

if you want the cure to take longer in a paper sack you just fold the top of the sack over while its drying, this slows the drying process way down.

though any which way will work i'm sure... i guess the big thing is trying to make it take at least 5 days... and less than 10 days. Faster would make the smoke harsh. And slower would risk mold formation. Though, allowing a tad bit of moisture (just a couple grams extra over the 1/4 weight) allows you to further cure the bud... chlorophyl breaks down... cannibinoids ease into their more psychoactive compounds... seems to take a good month before smoke is truly at its peak.

i've never tried hang-drying. however you do it, good luck.
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JACKMAYOFFER

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DAY 58 I have seen my first sighting of amber trichs a few more days of flushing and its harvest time...:clap::weed: I brought out the 12 oz beer can so every one can get an idea of the size of the colas...:bigjoint::hump: The pic with the 6 colas is the Strawberry Cough x Deep Chunck that was FIM'D and lollipop....Amazing..:leaf:The second pic is the same strain not FIM'D..
 

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raiderman

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great job bro. those 5 gallon buckets really panned out for yu. as far as drying i jus run strong fishing line across the room real tight.and linem up 4 to 5 days all dried.as far as curing i jus hangem and lettem get three-qarter dry then put in tins or jars. i like tins because yu can scrape the dry resins caked up on them wen thier fully cured.raider.
 

JACKMAYOFFER

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DAY 58 is some shots of the Master kush x bubba kush..:weed: Pics 1 - 6 Master x Bubba Pic 7-8 MTF PIC 10 GREEN CRACK..
 

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tahoe58

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frostiness galore ... beautiful looking ladies. thanks for the updates and the great work! Walk on!!~~ :clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:



DAY 58 I have seen my first sighting of amber trichs a few more days of flushing and its harvest time...:clap::weed: I brought out the 12 oz beer can so every one can get an idea of the size of the colas...:bigjoint::hump: The pic with the 6 colas is the Strawberry Cough x Deep Chunck that was FIM'D and lollipop....Amazing..:leaf:The second pic is the same strain not FIM'D..
DAY 58 is some shots of the Master kush x bubba kush..:weed: Pics 1 - 6 Master x Bubba Pic 7-8 MTF PIC 10 GREEN CRACK..
 
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