Why the hell are people against free health care!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[fellowes]

Since Obama supports it it's good right? I bet you complained about it when it was "Bush's war", even though democrats and republicans alike voted to go there. Let's just blame everything on Bush. It just shows this administration is incompetent to do anything. The people voted for him to "fix" the country, but when he can't do it he says, well if Bush didn't...., or since Bush did that.... Do your job. How many times did you hear Bush say, well since Clinton did this... I can't do my job properly.

Supports what? The war? He doesn't anymore. He did in the like everyone else did because people were lied to. Once people found out it was lies they were against it. We should have never entered Iraq in the first place. Weapons of mass destruction? The US has them too all countries do. He used 9/11 as a way to enter Iraq instead of going after the piece of shit who was the ringleader in killing people. It made the US go broke and he didn't care because he sits on a ranch with millions coming in why people who struggle to get by are dirt under his shoes.

 

[fellowes]

Then why is he trying to establish a system that has failed every other country who try it? Socialized medicine doesn't work, and the only one's who support it are those unable to provide for themselves. Most people who have insurance are satisfied, so why take that away? It's the people who never did anything with their lives, and expect the government to provide for them. Our country was founded on just the opposite ideals. If you work hard, you will succeed. You are trying to take away from those who are successful, and give them crap. How would it be any better, if we all had the same crappy insurance. We may all have it, but there wouldn't be any quality, and no reason to advance our treatments.

He's not taking away there health care if you want it you can have it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBBwryhcUFE

 

[robert 14617]

unsubscripted

 

[fellowes]

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Proved wrong and run. Typical republican be sure to round up your cattle before you hide in your ranch.

 

[SDSativa]

First of all he's not my "messiah". Second of all there gonna pick up the HOSPITAL BILL. Of course there gonna get money from taxpayers that's what funds any and every goverment program in this country.
Third of all he's not kicking old people aside he addressed that more than once. Last of all I mentioned about race because I noticed the majority of people that are against it are well off white people. I'm saying it's a good possibility but not entirely fact hence "I think they may be". The part I brought up about no im not black is because a lot of people would have assumed.

How does the government have any right to take my money, and give it to the cracked out bum that is having a heart attack, or whatever? I work for my money, so I'm smart enough to know where my money should go. The government has no right to tell me otherwise. And I guess we should just listen to everything he says, without looking at the facts, right? The people who are against it are the successful in this country, what we should all be striving to be. It's not about race, I've seen and heard from EVERY race that are against it. It's the people who don't think they should have to pay for everybody else. The ones who will be paying for it are the wealthy, because they pay the most taxes. The poor who are already on welfare don't pay taxes, so it doesn't matter to them. They would rather see everyone miserable, than a portion happy.

 

[PeachOibleBoiblePeach#1]

There you go typical,,If I go down you all go down.

 

[SDSativa]

He's not taking away there health care if you want it you can have it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBBwryhcUFE

Again, why would I believe this, when countries who have it, show it to be false. Are you going to take his word for it, or are you going to investigate and realize the facts prove him wrong. How can an insurance company compete with the ones who regulate them? They can't. It's like going up against your boss, you have to listen to them, they can change rules at anytime, and they are better funded. They are not paying for it, we are.

 

[fellowes]

How does the government have any right to take my money, and give it to the cracked out bum that is having a heart attack, or whatever? I work for my money, so I'm smart enough to know where my money should go. The government has no right to tell me otherwise. And I guess we should just listen to everything he says, without looking at the facts, right? The people who are against it are the successful in this country, what we should all be striving to be. It's not about race, I've seen and heard from EVERY race that are against it. It's the people who don't think they should have to pay for everybody else. The ones who will be paying for it are the wealthy, because they pay the most taxes. The poor who are already on welfare don't pay taxes, so it doesn't matter to them. They would rather see everyone miserable, than a portion happy.

Nobody wants to pay taxes but that's the only way a country gets money and gets stuff done like it or not. I agree let a crackhead die but if he said that people would bitch then wouldn't they? If he then started a war on drugs people on this site alone would be bitching would they not? The world isn't fare you should have figured that out a long time ago. As for the old people there the ones who mainly wanted health care so fuck them if they don't like it. They can take it or leave it he's not forcing it. If you wanna go to a doctor and get checked out that's fine if not that's fine also. It's a bunch of propaganda and when he clears it up it's ignored. People will never be happy with anything and that's just plain sad.

 

[hom36rown]

I am against universal healthcare, because we don't have the money to fund it. We should be trying to fix our budgets, not pile on the debt. We already have tens of trillions in unfunded liabilites for medicare/medicaid.

 

[robert 14617]

first thank you SDS for that , second i was not proven wrong Fellows ,you haven't proven anything this thread is a huge wast of time

 

[fellowes]

first thank you SDS for that , second i was not proven wrong Fellows ,you haven't proven anything this thread is a huge wast of time

Yep you watch the view I can already tell. Wy don't you find out the facts instead listening to them squaking chickens.

 

[robert 14617]

you don't know the first thing about me Fellows , your showing your age

 

[SDSativa]

Nobody wants to pay taxes but that's the only way a country gets money and gets stuff done like it or not. I agree let a crackhead die but if he said that people would bitch then wouldn't they? If he then started a war on drugs people on this site alone would be bitching would they not? The world isn't fare you should have figured that out a long time ago. As for the old people there the ones who mainly wanted health care so fuck them if they don't like it. They can take it or leave it he's not forcing it. If you wanna go to a doctor and get checked out that's fine if not that's fine also. It's a bunch of propaganda and when he clears it up it's ignored. People will never be happy with anything and that's just plain sad.

Taxes should be used to rebuild and defend our country. We already have our tax dollars being spent on ridiculous, worthless crap. We don't need this country going into more debt. We have the best healthcare system in the world, so why throw it away? There are many things we could do to improve it, but this is the wrong approach. When Obama starts making sense, I'll support him. I want my country to succeed. I just don't believe what he is doing is the right way to go. If he sat down with both sides of the aisle, and came up with a bi-partisan plan, I might support it. It's just hard to believe someone, when you can look at other countries for examples, and see that it just isn't true.

 

[FlyLikeAnEagle]

Then why is he trying to establish a system that has failed every other country who try it? Socialized medicine doesn't work, and the only one's who support it are those unable to provide for themselves. Most people who have insurance are satisfied, so why take that away? It's the people who never did anything with their lives, and expect the government to provide for them. Our country was founded on just the opposite ideals. If you work hard, you will succeed. You are trying to take away from those who are successful, and give them crap. How would it be any better, if we all had the same crappy insurance. We may all have it, but there wouldn't be any quality, and no reason to advance our treatments.

Why in the hell do you keep repeating this lie over and over again? Please back up your claim with a reputable link otherwise stop being a little foot soldier for health insurance companies.

 

[PeachOibleBoiblePeach#1]

This country does NOT have the best health care in the world ranks way behind other Industrialized nations. Yes if you can afford it, Movie stars, multi million dollar a year jobs,,yea it's the best,,but the cost is way out of line with the population. hell magic Johnson was cured of HIV,,,How much did that cost? could you or me afford it? How much is one day off life support in a ICU,,A lot, I know the hospitals Bill is over 230,000 for 4 day's so far, That's going to the innsurance company's, what if you had none? Not me someone close.

 

[fellowes]

Why in the hell do you keep repeating this lie over and over again? Please back up your claim with a reputable link otherwise stop being a little foot soldier for health insurance companies.

Exactly,i don't know why people keep saying this. For years people kept saying "Canada has free health care why don't we". He tries to get it done and people complain.

 

[fellowes]

This country does NOT have the best health care in the world ranks way behind other Industrialized nations. Yes if you can afford it, Movie stars, multi million dollar a year jobs,,yea it's the best,,but the cost is way out of line with the population. hell magic Johnson was cured of HIV,,,How much did that cost? could you or me afford it? How much is one day off life support in a ICU,,A lot, I know the hospitals Bill is over 230,000 for 4 day's so far, That's going to the innsurance company's, what if you had none? Not me someone close.

Magic Johnson wasn't cured. Although he is provided the medicines to survive because he has money. It also should be like that for everybody but it can't be if nobody is down with changing it.

 

[Rob Roy]

Free healthcare? Wow that sounds like magic! I was thinking it was going to cost money and take away my choice to participate or not. Can they do "free food" next?

 

[SDSativa]

Why in the hell do you keep repeating this lie over and over again? Please back up your claim with a reputable link otherwise stop being a little foot soldier for health insurance companies.

http://www.angelfire.com/pa/sergeman/issues/healthcare/socialized.html

This is just one of hundreds of websites. Why is it failing? First, people consider it free, but tax rates are as high as 50%. The QUALITY of care is considerably lower than that in the U.S. RATIONING care is inevitable when you have such a high demand for care, with so few doctors. People with rare diseases, almost never receive care, because the funding for them are almost non-existent. I could go on and on, but you should really do some research for yourself. I don't gain anything for supporting health insurance companies, I just believe capitalism and the free market work, that's what our founders believe, and that is why America is so prosperous. I believe the government should have as little power and control as possible. And I don't believe they should be jamming this crap down our throats, when they themselves, the president included, admit to not reading the bill. What the hell is that. They are passing laws and regulations that they don't even know about. If this happened in the private sector, the person would be fired, and lose their license to ever do that job again. But I guess the politicians are better than us. "Governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed..." Dec. of Indep.

 

[fellowes]

Free healthcare? Wow that sounds like magic! I was thinking it was going to cost money and take away my choice to participate or not. Can they do "free food" next?

If you wanna pay big prices for insurance and hospital bills you can. He's not taking that away he's giving you a choice.