New Member, New Grower, Please help.

[catfishclyde]

Hello rollitup community!
Longtime smoker, new member and new grower.
I've tried reading the forums to figure out whats wrong with my plants, but so far havent been able to find it. These sprouted about 3 days ago. Both were planted at the same time, same soil, etc. They are female easyryder seeds. Why is "Plant3" not growing like "plant2" Is it just a slow starter or is something wrong with it?

Temps in the growbox stay between 78-83 with the lights on, and 73-78 with the lights off. They are on a 20/4 schedule and have 10 27w cfl's on them.

Any help is appreciated.

 

[Geozander]

Welcome mate! Could just be down to you having different phenotypes of the same strain. It is quite common for seeds with identical genetics to grow totally differently from each other. One could grow rapidly, be a heavy yielder or a slow starter. Which is probably the case with yours.

 

[GrizzlyAdams]

Catfish, its very likely they are either different types of mary jane, or one is just more vigorous than the other. I wouldn't worry about it, watch the signs to make sure your plants are healthy and provided for, the rest is up to genetics man! Do your thing, keep in touch with RIU members, you'll be smoking top quality in no time.

 

[bigbudmike]

They both seem healthy to me. I use hydro and had similar issues. The small one can easily catch up to the big one in the end though just give it time. Patience is important with growing.

 

[Brick Top]

Vigor was mentioned but that comes with beans. Every now and then you get one that seems to lack vigor but now and then one will fool you. Normal growth would be to reach a certain above soil size (roughly) and then the plant would shift more energy to root development and then someone would notice that formerly fast starter slow down a bit and then things work out to a nice normal pace.

Well in some plants I have had where I thought the beans lacked vigor seemed to put more energy into earlier root development so they really seemed to be lagging behind but they were still growing as much just in a different way at the time. In the end I had a couple turn out to be the best of the bunch.
　
I am not saying that is the most common event but I wouldn’t get to concerned about it yet. It might just be going the other way ‘round the barn.

 

[algeezy509]

They both seem healthy to me. I use hydro and had similar issues. The small one can easily catch up to the big one in the end though just give it time. Patience is important with growing.

don't stress it will be alright, through the process of them growing and how you treat them you will see many changes very fun and unique experience lots of love involved similar to a kid or maybe i'm obsessed also i'm on my first grow check my sig or my profile and check the album. What they look like or how they progess will change drastically day by day unless you stunt them which everybody deals with. So just sit back, relax and injoy the show don't start worrying untill they cry for help, even then don't worry just fix it and you'll be good.

 

[catfishclyde]

Thanks everybody. I was worried i had a bum seed or something. These are from attitude seed bank. EasyRyder feminized. I'm hoping to get an ounce from each plant. If so that will hold me over till the next 2 can grow

Since they are an autoflowering strain, i am going with the following light setup...any suggtestions?


Right now i have 10 27w 6500k cfl's and 2 27w 2600k cfl's.
Once they start flowering i was going to switch those around and go with 10 2600's and 2 6500's. My fox farm nutes should be in tomorrow. i'll hold off on feeding it to them until next week .

 

[GrizzlyAdams]

In reference to jumping to nutes immediately, what kind of soil are you using?

 

[catfishclyde]

In reference to jumping to nutes immediately, what kind of soil are you using?

Miracle Grow Organic. I knew not to use the regular MG, i tried to find something better but in this little shithole town i live in we don't have any garden stores. I really wanted to order some Fox Farm Ocean Mix but didnt wanna pay $35/bag to have it shipped.

I ordered the fox farm big bloom, grow big, and tiger bloom nutes. From what i've read on some other sites it seems to be pretty recommended. I was going to follow the feeding schudule fox farm has on their site..except skip the first 2-3 weeks since these are autoflowering.

My RH is staying around the 42 percent area. I take it thats good for flowering , but i've read it could be higher for veg..but again..autoflower so no real veg stage.

Thanks for any input as i really dont wanna mess up my new expensive seeds. I saw anohter grow on here using the same seeds and they got 2.5oz per plant...if i got anything over an O a plant i'd be ecstatic!

 

[catfishclyde]

Well 3 days later and not much has changed with either plant.
I've got one of those plant moisture meters you poke in the soil to measure the soil water. I had to water them yesterday as it said it was getting a tad dry about 3/4 down the pot.
With the plants now being almost a week old, i would have thought they'd be bigger than they are right now...

 

[Geozander]

If they are still looking healthy mate i wouldnt worry too much. It only been a day or 2. They showing any signs of growth at all?

 

[catfishclyde]

If they are still looking healthy mate i wouldnt worry too much. It only been a day or 2. They showing any signs of growth at all?

The 1st pic is the plant i'm worried about. Almost no change
The 2nd pic is probably doing fine. Its starting to get its 2nd set of leaves. The crap on the plant in the 2nd pic is some small soil particles i had on my hand when trying to get a pic..they just fell on it.

 

[catfishclyde]

The 1st pic is the plant i'm worried about. Almost no change
The 2nd pic is probably doing fine. Its starting to get its 2nd set of leaves. The crap on the plant in the 2nd pic is some small soil particles i had on my hand when trying to get a pic..they just fell on it.

Here is the grow room. Those lights are 3-4" away from the plants. I cant really get them any closer while they are this small. If there are any suggestion on differnt ligth placement, etc..please let me know..i'll take any advice i can get.

 

[greengrowthexpert]

Oi vae. We're making a big deal of nothing. Your plant will grow fine. Don't worry about it. =]

 

[Geozander]

Have had a couple of seedlings that have got to a certain point then stopped. I just leave them to do their business. Have had slow starters that have grown on and become decent plants. Personally i would have some kind of humidity dome over the one you are worried about, just to help it on its way.

 

[catfishclyde]

Humidity dome...i'll see if i can get some clear plastic cups and poke a few small holes in them and just set them over the plants for a few days. will that work ok?

 

[Geozander]

Yeah mate that will be fine, seedlings love humidity. But i do think you are over worrying yourself.

 

[catfishclyde]

you are right. i probably am just worrying myself.
i think its becasue i see other people's plants who they say are a week old, and they are 2-3 times bigger than these little ladies.

 

[Geozander]

Growing is a learning curve mate, you will learn alot from this one. Enjoy it mate, and stress not. Geo

 

[Stonefish]

you are right. i probably am just worrying myself.
i think its becasue i see other people's plants who they say are a week old, and they are 2-3 times bigger than these little ladies.

Yeah - you're worrying too much!

I know you see other folk's grows, and then start over-analyzing what you are doing...almost everyone does that when they start out! The kicker of it is, is that your grow op is likely totally different than theirs...different soil, light, etc.
I think you'll do just fine!
Also, the distance that your light is from the seedlings appears to be good...if it were too far away, the seedlings would be reaching for the light (long and stringy), which yours are NOT...they are nice and close to the soil.

Once you've been growing for awhile, you will probably get a giggle out of this situation...when I first started growing, I was checking on my plants about 6-7 times a day (not counting trimming, etc), now I may go in there once or twice a day, say "hello ladies", check to make sure equipment is operating correctly, temp, need for water, look at leaves for any oddities, then I'm on my merry way.
One thing that never gets old though is that smell eminating from the room before the fans kick on....mmmmmm