Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

[Shrike]

Hey R1Farmer,

Don't know if you've seen the pdf I posted, but if you want to make it easier to read Stinks thread, get my pdf of this forum. I still read this thread, but don't seem to post much anymore since Stink's site got up and running. I'll still update this thread every 100 pages...well...because old habits die hard...

You can get it from the link in my thread...p.s. you might find SoG's pdf a good read too. He's taken the Stink system and made a grow room that most of us just drool over, but could never afford to build...

What a great thread!!! I've been spending the last few days trying to read everything (currently up to post #981)....and though I have much more to read I've already decided to make this system and follow the instructions as closely as possible. As mentioned I will read the entire thread. Yes I will....but I have a question regarding the flowering rotations...

So in a 3 SB system flowering rotation...when one system is harvested, how do you move the other 2 systems over? Do you just move the fence posts (untie plants from current support) over or do you move an entire system over? Is the system sturdy enough for such a move? Tanks in advance braddahz and sistahz!

 

[johnnywriight]

R1-
w/ co2 you should be able to do 8 to 10 with the two 6s depending on strains of course... probablly more once you get all dialed in

 

[haikubutthead]

Tanks johnny! As a noob I tend to do that!!

What is the expected yield if flowering area (3 SB sys) consists of 2x 600hps?

Actually I believe Stinkbud is now physically rotating the crops as he has a MH lamp in the flowering room (plus the HPS) and it is under this light the new arrivals get put. then they are shuffled under HSP when the next batch of new arrivals arrive.

Of course if you only have HPS, for example, there is no need to move them as stated.

 

[dagobaker]

Tanks johnny! As a noob I tend to do that!!

What is the expected yield if flowering area (3 SB sys) consists of 2x 600hps?

30 oz with no co2 and up to 45 with co2
i yield about 30 per 600 with co2 but ive been growing with this system for 8 months

 

[64grandsport]

where do you find a timer that is one minute on and 5 minutes off

 

[johnnywriight]

c.a.p. cycle timer 80-100 bux...
i was guessing a per system harvest with the 8oz but 10-15 would be very nice, and 30 per 6 would be fukn fantastic!

 

[rigamortis]

My second batch of clones has been going for over 2 weeks and they just don't want to root. A couple have been in the cloner even longer. The first batch rooted right at 7 days. Most concerning is the clones still look pretty healthy on top, but the stem under the neoprene doesn't look very good to me. Rather than developing nice clean little white dots, the stem is looking swollen with irregular bumps. It's also getting a little brown tinge - darkest near the cut site. I'm almost sure this is bad - but does this look like something to try and manage, or do I throw these all out and clean the cloner with bleach? Any ideas how this happens in a cloner with tap water and Clonex? No additional nutes added. Temps did get cold inside for a couple days (mid 60's), but I would have thought the cold temps would ward off disease and just take longer to root. These are on a CAP 4/1 cycle timer. PH pretty consistant around 6.2 which is slightly higher than recommended but I figured that was close enough. Pics attached.

Many thanks to anyone who recognizes what this is, and what the recommended action is! Or if I'm really lucky I'm just a panicked hydrofungiphobic (or whatever Stink called us over protective types trying to fix everything).

 

[DeBoe]

Amazing is all i can say

 

[dagobaker]

Clones look finsome take 5 days and some take4 weeks
clones from bottom of plant usually root faster

 

[StinkBud]

Don't sweat it. Watch for the ends turning soft. It they are soft cut them off or ditch the plant all together.

Too much warmth is you number one concern. Warm water = funk.

http://stinkbuddies.com/simplemachinesforum/index.php

My second batch of clones has been going for over 2 weeks and they just don't want to root. A couple have been in the cloner even longer. The first batch rooted right at 7 days. Most concerning is the clones still look pretty healthy on top, but the stem under the neoprene doesn't look very good to me. Rather than developing nice clean little white dots, the stem is looking swollen with irregular bumps. It's also getting a little brown tinge - darkest near the cut site. I'm almost sure this is bad - but does this look like something to try and manage, or do I throw these all out and clean the cloner with bleach? Any ideas how this happens in a cloner with tap water and Clonex? No additional nutes added. Temps did get cold inside for a couple days (mid 60's), but I would have thought the cold temps would ward off disease and just take longer to root. These are on a CAP 4/1 cycle timer. PH pretty consistant around 6.2 which is slightly higher than recommended but I figured that was close enough. Pics attached.

Many thanks to anyone who recognizes what this is, and what the recommended action is! Or if I'm really lucky I'm just a panicked hydrofungiphobic (or whatever Stink called us over protective types trying to fix everything).

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[bloatedcraig]

When the time comes I just pull them up out of the containers and move them into the flower room.

I have 2 - 1000W HPS for a total output of 290,000 lumens. My lights have vented hoods the take the air from one room and vents into the attic. That way my room is totally sealed to keep the CO2 in the room. I use a 440 CFM fan to vent my lights. Lights are run at night to help keep temps down.

I use an A/C unit during the heat of the Summer but don't need it the rest of the year.

I use a complete greenhouse control system with CO2. I keep my CO2 at 1500 PPM during the day cycle.

I keep my humidity below 60% and have a 200 CFM fan that vents into the attic to keep humidity in check.

I'm running 3 separate Aero/NFT systems so I can have 9 weeks flower time and a 3 week perpetual harvest cycle.

I use a cycle timer for the pumps. The timer is set to 1 minute on and 5 minutes off. This allows maximum Oxygen to the roots without letting them dry out.

I made 3 separate Aero/NFT systems using PVC fence posts. The plumbing runs inside and is made from the same 1/2" PVC pipe I use for the cloner. EZ-Clone sprayers between each plant site.

14 plant sites. 396 GPH pump.

The frame is made from 3/4" PVC pipe. 18gal. Rubbermaid container for the reservoir.

Here is my formula for my flower room:

Botanicare Nutrients:
126ml Cal-Mag Plus
150ml Sweet
180ml Liquid Karma
540mlL Pure Bend Pro Bloom

I run 2000 PPM all the way until the flush cycle. Some strains like AK47 can handle over 3000 PPM without burning. Other strains show signs of tip burn at just 1700 PPM. Since I run 10 different strains I set my PPM for a good overall value.

Check out the photos for details on my flower system.

Flushing and harvest next...

love this setup man, can you grow to full size in this setup, sorry if you have allready answered that.

The thing i keep thinking is how you keep the water temps down and where the hell do all those roots go.

 

[trouble9039]

I would stay on your PH and keep it at 5.5 until you start getting some root's showing and then go to 5.8! As far as the bleach goes I would not do it as to it soaks into plastic's, I use super hot water and some elbow grease.

My second batch of clones has been going for over 2 weeks and they just don't want to root. A couple have been in the cloner even longer. The first batch rooted right at 7 days. Most concerning is the clones still look pretty healthy on top, but the stem under the neoprene doesn't look very good to me. Rather than developing nice clean little white dots, the stem is looking swollen with irregular bumps. It's also getting a little brown tinge - darkest near the cut site. I'm almost sure this is bad - but does this look like something to try and manage, or do I throw these all out and clean the cloner with bleach? Any ideas how this happens in a cloner with tap water and Clonex? No additional nutes added. Temps did get cold inside for a couple days (mid 60's), but I would have thought the cold temps would ward off disease and just take longer to root. These are on a CAP 4/1 cycle timer. PH pretty consistant around 6.2 which is slightly higher than recommended but I figured that was close enough. Pics attached.

Many thanks to anyone who recognizes what this is, and what the recommended action is! Or if I'm really lucky I'm just a panicked hydrofungiphobic (or whatever Stink called us over protective types trying to fix everything).

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[wtfh4xx]

Justa lil update.
Bought my White Russian seeds and assembled my first flower unit!
Just gotta finish the room, buy the lights/mover, and assemble the other two units.

 

[dagobaker]

it all starts with clones or seeds
femmed are easier for stinbud systems imho
males in aero are a pain

 

[wtfh4xx]

it all starts with clones or seeds
femmed are easier for stinbud systems imho
males in aero are a pain

Im gonna put 6 seeds in rockwool, and then put them into the cloner to finish.
THen Im gonna take them and pretty much murder them taking clones.
THen Ill move them instantly into flower to show which of the clone batches are male or female.

After that it should be simple.

 

[hehehemann]

My second batch of clones has been going for over 2 weeks and they just don't want to root.

Are they still looking the same?

 

[dagobaker]

ive done it everyway
id rather do femmed seeds if possible or even aero to dwc and then u can get rid or move the males
then u can just clone the best female and back to aero

 

[wtfh4xx]

Wow those are stretching.

 

[trouble9039]

#1- Try raising your tub using some 2x4 cut's so air can reach the bottom of the container! Then I would throw A fan next to it so it keeps cool air blowing on it, also you can freeze some empty pop or water bottles and put them in....


#2- I have used string and yes some do break but you have to be very careful and I did it as A slow proccess.


They grow to the light so on that aspect how high was your light to begin with??

Wow.. second batch of clones still don't want to root but this is still an amazing system. I think I've gotten to post #3,600 so far and there is all kinds of hidden info in this thread. Looks like the thread is mostly played out, but still has a few followers. And Stink is still on it!

So for those still interested attached are a few photos... because photos are fun! Basically shows my Stink System. Large fan to push air back through the main air ducts. Clone and veg unit. And, the insane part is that 1 flower system is only on day 18! That's no typo - I still have well over 6 weeks left to manage these girls on steroids. Ummm... I have no clue how that battle is going to go! I didn't catch onto the advice that you want to keep veg under 12" until they were already bigger. But even the 12" and under still caught up in just a few days. I guess I shouldn't complain!

Onto my real questions..

1) For those wierd looking clone stems I had never checked water temps in that container. Just checked them yesterday and the water is way too warm - warmer than the air. Air temps in mid 70's and water was 80 degrees! My 2 theories are there was only enough water to cover the pump, and the pump may be heating it up too much. Lights were also right on top of the clones/ container. So I added more water and raised those T5's up quite a bit. We'll see... I may make another cloner just to be safe.

2) This is one I would really like some help on. I'm having to bend those plants down, and they're not as flexible as I hoped. I basically broke a couple in half - the stem pinched from trying to tie it down on itself. I'll see what happens but I'm pretty sure I'll have to top them now (just the 2 I broke). Way back when Stink mentioned he bends them over and ties the stalk to itself. Exactly how do you accomplish that? Some of the others I tied to the wall but that's not going to work well long term. Any guidelines on max angle to bend the main stem? I guess it's not really an angle - more of a circle, but you get the point.

3) How do you tell a plant to stop growing so tall!

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Many thanks to all the contributors this year! Best info I've found anywhere.

 

[wtfh4xx]

Hey guys quick question.
I will have my three flower units side by side.
How shoudl I setup the two 600hps on the light mover?
both lengthwise inline over one unit and moving sideways?
Also what size fan shoudl I attach to vent room and cool lights?

Or, could I get away with using two 600's stationary to light the three sitnkbud units?
They have a solid 4x4 footprint, so they they should be able to cover them stationary right?