Ending death penalty could save US millions

doobnVA

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Personally, i'd love to be stoned to death.

LOL.. well, it's physically impossible (LD50 is too high) but it sure would be fun to try, wouldn't it?

:eyesmoke:

Don't they say you'd have to smoke like 15,000 joints in 15 minutes? Hell, you'd probably die from the smoke inhalation alone long before the THC would kill you.

Maybe you could find some dispensaries to "donate" to your cause... the cause being, of course, the first human being to die from THC overdose. Someone get Guinness on the phone!
 
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PadawanBater

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he doesnt need to be incarcerated.waste of money is my point.give him qik trail and zap-em.he aint worth shit to society in any way.try not being so smug an superior.

Dude, did you miss the very point of the thread?

It is more expensive to execute a prisoner than it is to keep them encarcerated for life. That's what that first link in the OP is talking about.

I completely agree with JO's post, Doob is dropping some good knowledge too.

What are the goals of capital punishment? Does the current system accomplish those goals?
 

stalebiscuit

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the only reason the death penalty cost so much is because we do it in a retarded manner. japan has it on lock, set a date of execution the appeals process can not interfere with, they still hang people i think, which is alot cheaper

so its simple really

dont let prisoners stay on death row for more than a year, a death sentence is final, and especially now with DNA evidence, death penalties are reserved only for the guilty. (i dare you to find someone who is wrongfully on death row since the past like 7 years)

secondly, revert to the firing squad or hanging, very cheap, humane, and its super quick and about as painless as it gets

this is what i would do
 

stalebiscuit

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LOL.. well, it's physically impossible (LD50 is too high) but it sure would be fun to try, wouldn't it?

:eyesmoke:

Don't they say you'd have to smoke like 15,000 joints in 15 minutes? Hell, you'd probably die from the smoke inhalation alone long before the THC would kill you.

Maybe you could find some dispensaries to "donate" to your cause... the cause being, of course, the first human being to die from THC overdose. Someone get Guinness on the phone!
or you could hit him int he head repeatedly with a fucking rock

thats getting stoned to death
 

doobnVA

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or you could hit him int he head repeatedly with a fucking rock

thats getting stoned to death

Uh, DUH. Obviously you didn't get the play on words. It's a pot growing site... stoned.. pot smoking... get it? :wall:

I seriously doubt the poster I was replying to meant he'd love to be pelted with rocks.
 

AllAboutIt

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bring back firing squads and hangmen. and...increase the penalty for rapist and child molesters to death!!!
and that is a great lib talking point LMAO, yea, lets worry about the cost of the death penalty when the democrats in office are spending us to death with things like cash for golf carts, nice try ,typical LIBERAL BS.....YOU FAIL!!!
 

doobnVA

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bring back firing squads and hangmen. and...increase the penalty for rapist and child molesters to death!!!
and that is a great lib talking point LMAO, yea, lets worry about the cost of the death penalty when the democrats in office are spending us to death with things like cash for golf carts, nice try ,typical LIBERAL BS.....YOU FAIL!!!

And this is why the republicans earn a FAIL on human rights and civil rights issues.

Would you be advocating the death penalty for rape if say, your own 18 year old son was convicted of having sex with his 17 year old girlfriend, who isn't old enough to consent?

I dare say you would change your tune awfully fast if that happened, wouldn't you?

Or can you honestly say that your OWN SON deserves to be put to death for "rape"?
 

doobnVA

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(i dare you to find someone who is wrongfully on death row since the past like 7 years)

7 years, huh? Pretty fucking easy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_exonerated_death_row_inmates#2000-2009

List of exonerated death row inmates from 200-2009

Here ya go:


2002

  • 99. Juan Roberto Melendez-Colon Florida. Convicted 1984.
  • 100. Ray Krone Arizona (State v. Krone, 897 P.2d 621 (Ariz. 1995) (en banc)). Convicted 1992.
  • 101. Thomas Kimbell, Jr.
  • 102. Larry Osborne
2003

  • 103. Aaron Patterson
  • 104. Madison Hobley
  • 105. Leroy Orange
  • 106. Stanley Howard
  • 107. Rudolph Holton
  • 108. Lemuel Prion
  • 109. Wesley Quick
  • 110. John Thompson
  • 112. Gary Lamar James
  • 113. Joseph Amrine
  • 114. Nicholas Yarris Pennsylvania (Pennsylvania v. Yarris, No 690-OF1982, Court of Common Pleas, Delaware County, September 3, 2003. Order vacating conviction). Convicted 1982.
Illinois moratorium

See also
2004

  • 115. Alan Gell
  • 116. Gordon Steidl
  • 117. Laurence Adams
  • 118. Dan L. Bright
  • 119. Ryan Matthews
  • 120. Ernest Ray Willis
2005

  • 121. Derrick Jamison
  • 122. Harold Wilson
2006

  • 123. John Ballard
2007

  • 124. Curtis McCarty
  • 125. Michael McCormick
  • 126. Jonathon Hoffman
2008

  • 127. Kennedy Brewer Mississippi. Convicted 1995.
  • 128. Glen Edward Chapman North Carolina. Convicted 1995.
  • 129. Levon "Bo" Jones [5] North Carolina. Convicted 1993.
  • 130. Michael Blair Texas. Currently in prison for the sexual assault of three young girls.
2009

  • 131. Nathson Fields Illinois. Convicted 1986.
  • 132. Paul House Tennessee. Convicted 1986.
  • 133. Daniel Wade Moore Alabama. Convicted 2002.
  • 134. Ronald Kitchen Illinois. Convicted 1988.
  • 135. Herman Lindsey Florida. Convicted 2006.
  • 136. Michael Toney Texas. Convicted 1999. (Toney later died in a car accident on October 3, 2009, just one month and a day after his exoneration.) [6]
  • 137. Yancy Douglas Oklahoma. Convicted 1997.
  • 138. Paris Powell Oklahoma. Convicted 1997.


And here's an even better list:

Innocence List: List of those freed from death row:


http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/innocence-list-those-freed-death-row



[SIZE=+1]Average number of years between being sentenced to death and exoneration: 9.8 years[/SIZE]
 

Wordz

Well-Known Member
7 years, huh? Pretty fucking easy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_exonerated_death_row_inmates#2000-2009

List of exonerated death row inmates from 200-2009

Here ya go:


2002

  • 99. Juan Roberto Melendez-Colon Florida. Convicted 1984.
  • 100. Ray Krone Arizona (State v. Krone, 897 P.2d 621 (Ariz. 1995) (en banc)). Convicted 1992.
  • 101. Thomas Kimbell, Jr.
  • 102. Larry Osborne
2003

  • 103. Aaron Patterson
  • 104. Madison Hobley
  • 105. Leroy Orange
  • 106. Stanley Howard
  • 107. Rudolph Holton
  • 108. Lemuel Prion
  • 109. Wesley Quick
  • 110. John Thompson
  • 112. Gary Lamar James
  • 113. Joseph Amrine
  • 114. Nicholas Yarris Pennsylvania (Pennsylvania v. Yarris, No 690-OF1982, Court of Common Pleas, Delaware County, September 3, 2003. Order vacating conviction). Convicted 1982.
Illinois moratorium

See also
2004

  • 115. Alan Gell
  • 116. Gordon Steidl
  • 117. Laurence Adams
  • 118. Dan L. Bright
  • 119. Ryan Matthews
  • 120. Ernest Ray Willis
2005

  • 121. Derrick Jamison
  • 122. Harold Wilson
2006

  • 123. John Ballard
2007

  • 124. Curtis McCarty
  • 125. Michael McCormick
  • 126. Jonathon Hoffman
2008

  • 127. Kennedy Brewer Mississippi. Convicted 1995.
  • 128. Glen Edward Chapman North Carolina. Convicted 1995.
  • 129. Levon "Bo" Jones [5] North Carolina. Convicted 1993.
  • 130. Michael Blair Texas. Currently in prison for the sexual assault of three young girls.
2009

  • 131. Nathson Fields Illinois. Convicted 1986.
  • 132. Paul House Tennessee. Convicted 1986.
  • 133. Daniel Wade Moore Alabama. Convicted 2002.
  • 134. Ronald Kitchen Illinois. Convicted 1988.
  • 135. Herman Lindsey Florida. Convicted 2006.
  • 136. Michael Toney Texas. Convicted 1999. (Toney later died in a car accident on October 3, 2009, just one month and a day after his exoneration.) [6]
  • 137. Yancy Douglas Oklahoma. Convicted 1997.
  • 138. Paris Powell Oklahoma. Convicted 1997.


And here's an even better list:

Innocence List: List of those freed from death row:


http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/innocence-list-those-freed-death-row


[SIZE=+1]Average number of years between being sentenced to death and exoneration: 9.8 years[/SIZE]

stale biscuits does that work for you lol i like how he dared youkiss-ass
 

Iron Lion Zion

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It doesn't matter for me...
I'm from Texas and if there is one policy that I know will stick around forever in my state, it's the Death Penalty.
I think we kill more criminals than almost all of the other death penalty states combined, or some other insane number. Speaking of insane, that doesn't protect you here either, nor does being handicapped.
 

doobnVA

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I have the extreme displeasure of living in the state that's second only to Texas in the number of executed criminals.

Even being second, you guys have us beat 4:1. So far this year, we've only executed 1... but the DC sniper is up next. I guess I'm a hypocrite, because I don't feel bad AT ALL that he's going to get it. I remember when the snipings were going down, being scared to pump freaking gas or walk through the parking lot of the mall to go shopping. Fucking ridiculous....
 
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PadawanBater

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I have the extreme displeasure of living in the state that's second only to Texas in the number of executed criminals.

Even being second, you guys have us beat 4:1. So far this year, we've only executed 1... but the DC sniper is up next. I guess I'm a hypocrite, because I don't feel bad AT ALL that he's going to get it. I remember when the snipings were going down, being scared to pump freaking gas or walk through the parking lot of the mall to go shopping. Fucking ridiculous....
lol yeah, that was some pretty crazy shit... Lucky I'm on the west coast, didn't have to worry much about it personally... but didn't that guy shoot kids, elderly, women, men... anyone was a target? That would make the shit twice as scary... I'd of stayed in my house and became a hermit the whole time man! Talk about justifiable paranoia! :eyesmoke:
 

Green Cross

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Is this thread supposed to be a diversion from Obama's power-grab?

Put an end to never ending appeals process, and take them strait to the gas chamber.

That way you are saving money, protecting the victims, and carrying out punishment swiftly. bongsmilie
 

Puffster

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exonaration does not equal not guilty smart ass.technicality bullshit in a good percentage id bet.as far as my grammar an puncualization.im retired at age 49 so guess it was good enuff to get by.internet intellectual,i got it done in real world.
 

medicineman

New Member
End it immediately. I say take all hard core inmates and give them a choice, life in prison or being dropped out of an airplane at 25,000 ft with an M-16 and 500 rounds of ammo over Wajiristan. If you make it back to the USA, a full pardon. BTW, you must bring back at least 25 pairs of ears.
 

doobnVA

Well-Known Member
Is this thread supposed to be a diversion from Obama's power-grab?

Put an end to never ending appeals process, and take them strait to the gas chamber.

That way you are saving money, protecting the victims, and carrying out punishment swiftly. bongsmilie
Jesus H. Christ. What "power grab" are you on about now?

The "never-ending appeals process"? Wtf are you smoking? You know a superior court judge can DENY an appeal, right? (silly question, obviously you don't or you wouldn't have made that ridiculous statement). I'd say that's a pretty solid end to the appeals process, being DENIED an appeal.
 

doobnVA

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exonaration does not equal not guilty smart ass.technicality bullshit in a good percentage id bet.as far as my grammar an puncualization.im retired at age 49 so guess it was good enuff to get by.internet intellectual,i got it done in real world.

Exoneration occurs when a person who has been convicted of a crime is later proved to have been innocent of that crime.



UM, DUH.

Innocent = NOT GUILTY

Is it really so hard to understand? "Technicality" as in, BEING FUCKING INNOCENT? Yeah, just a minor technicality like DNA evidence, right?

Retired from the military, right? Only job I can think of where you can retire at such an early age. FWIW, to join the military you don't have to be smart. Obviously you are walking, talking proof of that.
 

Puffster

Well-Known Member
u a funny guy.usually a scumbag on death row more often then not has a case history a mile long.why bother putting them back out to commmit more mayhem.not saying there are not exceptions of course.
by the way did you drop out or were you kicked out of law school,cause you sure are frustrated.
p.s. one of my great uncles donated a great piece of land for uva.also have to lawyers in my family.all ive done is state an opinion directly opposed to your weak ass shit.fucking military?they wouldnt have me.LLLLLLOL
 
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