CrackerJax
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That's nice.... what does that mean? Self evident?
sunshine17542
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Why do you not see? What makes you blind?
CrackerJax
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What am I supposed to see? I've examined the Bible and find it unoriginal and not verifiable.
I look for verification that Jesius existed using sources other than the Bible, and find none. None...
What am I missing, other than accepting what I'm told....which is based on.... nothing at all. Just a bunch of hear say.....
I find it incredulous that anyone would accept something as important as eternal life/damnation at face value.
I look for verification that Jesius existed using sources other than the Bible, and find none. None...
What am I missing, other than accepting what I'm told....which is based on.... nothing at all. Just a bunch of hear say.....
I find it incredulous that anyone would accept something as important as eternal life/damnation at face value.
Babs34
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See how you are unable to stay on course without your silly name calling.
I'm very thin btw.
You say you don't know, "but" you do know that what we believe is in fairy tales........EVEN THOUGH it's been repeated HUNDREDS of times to you this has little, if anything, to do with what the Bible says.
"Yet" that has been your entire defense.
......that's your position C*J.
That's been your ENTIRE argument.
Accusing and not noting what others post.
I have no difficulty with the English language. I see and read clearly.
Try it some time. Your arguments will cease to exist.
You won't allow that to happen though, will you?
Babs34
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.......and it just keeps going, and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going
sunshine17542
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There are other religions that could lead you to God. The best way to find God is to be charitable (loving of all people) and to show kindness (giving to others). The Bible is a bit much at times. It seems as if you do anything you are going to hell, but really thats not what it is all about. See sins are the undoing of Gods creation, nothing good really comes from them. They lead to suffering, not just for you but for others as well. Like if you commit a "sin" if usually will have negative effects. Not just for you but it will end up effecting someone else too. God gave us consciousness. Creation comes from consciousness. We can create, where everything else in this world destroys things. Of course God can create too.
DJBoxhouse
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Not true CrackerJax, There is other sources, many during the time he existed. AND before. Notably dozens and dozens of 'Jesus' Like stories, one namely in its time, quite a dominant presence of deity within the Egyptians religion. Horus - Read about him, quite the same as jesus, it even translates into the same name from egyptian to hebrew. Another few things to note about the correlations between Horus, your 'Christan' god, and what you know now as 'Jesus'. After this I hope all you christens will comprehend the follies of your way and worship your true Egyptian gods, you fucking heathens.
http://ct.grenme.com/index.php?title=Horus-Jesus_Correlations&printable=yes
And Remember: read the foot notes children, those are important. We call them citations, or for you simple folk; Evidence.
Have fun reading!~
sunshine17542
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I used to be an atheist. I used to think that people that believed in God were nuts. I understand that people have their own opinions and they are allowed to have them. I do know that finding God has made me a better person. It is not about some religion. I know that the world would be a better place if God was on peoples mind. It really is not a bad thing and I can understand how religion would make it seem that way. Christians say you are going to hell if you do one little thing and Muslims want to blow up the earth. Of course this seems crazy. Thats because it is, but this is not really what God is. Like I said before God is in you, you are the one that needs to choose to find Him. Yes He is in everyone. Remember that God is perfection.
DJBoxhouse
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I'm arguing figurative reference rather than literal sunshine, you can't seem to grasp the difference.
If you believe in god as a way of life and proper living, cool beans! If you follow the teachings of jesus as a philosopher just like Aristotle, Plato, friedrich nietzsche well all the power to you!
If however, you're going on like Jesus is as real as this tea i'm drinking right now, you're insane.
If you believe in god as a way of life and proper living, cool beans! If you follow the teachings of jesus as a philosopher just like Aristotle, Plato, friedrich nietzsche well all the power to you!
If however, you're going on like Jesus is as real as this tea i'm drinking right now, you're insane.
Babs34
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Very simple. His incessant and desperate need to be right.
CrackerJax
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Sunshine.... being nice to ppl and being respectful just means I was raised well. I was raised well. It doesn't mean there is a G*D required to make that possible.
Religion is not a pre requisite to living well, or being nice. I have friends and relatives who are religious and I have some who are atheist. I find the degree of faith or lack there of has little to do with how they live their lives. It has more to do with their upbringing.
Good parents.... good kids. And vice versa.
There's simply no proof of any G*D. None. It's not needed of course since proof is never given and yet.... we continue onward...since we could survive away from the trees.
Religion is not a pre requisite to living well, or being nice. I have friends and relatives who are religious and I have some who are atheist. I find the degree of faith or lack there of has little to do with how they live their lives. It has more to do with their upbringing.
Good parents.... good kids. And vice versa.
There's simply no proof of any G*D. None. It's not needed of course since proof is never given and yet.... we continue onward...since we could survive away from the trees.
sunshine17542
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Babs34
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I know I'll live to regret saying this.
It's not a book, it's what you feel, it's what you know. It's what speaks to the soul.
Quite simply, it is what mere words can't describe or explain.
All at the same time, it's what you beckon when time sits still and calls your name.
It's no myth and it's certainly nothing that was indoctrinated upon me.
DJBoxhouse
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I feel ya after a fashion Babs, I can see this 'Philosophy' speaking to my soul just as much as I see it speaking to yours, but that is all it is.
You must understand this. Well, I guess you don't have to, but it'd be a shame if you didn't.
You must understand this. Well, I guess you don't have to, but it'd be a shame if you didn't.
CrackerJax
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Nature is a self running system with no pre set plan or destiny apparent. Some need to have order. Some need it so bad, that they feel it's okay to invent it.
DJBoxhouse
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Nicely put sir.
Babs34
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That's all it is...to you. Why don't you understand that?
Is it really so difficult to fathom that just because your experience is not mine, that it's still possibly real?
If you don't get that, society no longer has a need for science.
Babs34
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And you know this Cj, why?...because it has been proven?
The only people proving a need for such order are non-believers.
Why fight to disprove what you do not know?
Why not just allow nature to take its course--while quietly laughing at the fairy tale?
War does not exist on Earth simply because of religion.
Mankind will ALWAYS have beliefs and systems that will keep one another at war.
To blame religion is all too simple reasoning.
---narcissistic entities believing themselves omnipotent---
CrackerJax
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I'm definitely down with the tenants of Buddhism. If there is a religion which probably hits the true mark best, meaning it meshes well with the scientific advancements we are making each day, it would be Buddhism. No other religion makes sense the way Buddhism sects do.
