RIU, You chose it, I'm growing it. Fucking Incredible!
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snutter
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i was just going through the back pages and couldn't find what you posted about it dude, that's all. I take another look... No need to get pissed about it man.. I even did a search on the word kirby and didn't find anything. Just some one saying, "sorry to hear about the kirby guy." and you replying something like, "yeah, still pissed, gonna smoke a bong hit and shoot some pool." - or something like that. But not the whole story. I was just wondering what the whole story is. If you posted it in this thread, then I'll take another look. I'm sure I'll find it.
Barron
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HookedOnChronic
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hahaahahahahahahahahah, click on WTF is so difficult as buddy said its a link to the story
hahahahahahahhahahh thats priceless
so laser your topping em and removing one of the tops on every one of em?
hahahahahahahhahahh thats priceless
so laser your topping em and removing one of the tops on every one of em?
laserbrn
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haha...I wasn't pissed at all, that was the name of the thread, I just posted a link to it.
laserbrn
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On half of them I did that, on the other half I left both of them. Right now it's 4 and 4 and I don't see much difference yet, but it's only been a couple of days.
After topping the leaves have started looking kinda shitty and things are turning south a bit with the plants so I'll have to start looking into what's causing that.
I pulled up the male that I pulled and the roots were healthy and there was PLENTY of room left, not rootbound in any way at all. They should have plenty of room in these pots.
snutter
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ah. well that's probably why I couldn't find it in this thread... heheh. right on, I'll look for it that way then.
and you sounded pissed with "WTF is so hard about it?" It was the "what the fuck" part that you sound pissed. hahahha. It's all cool man.
the grow is looking good. I've been trying to figure out reasons for the wilting leaves at the end of the light cycle like you've talked about though... I've never heard of such a thing. Just really friggin weird man. I've been surfing the web and shit too trying to see if I could find any info for you, but nothing concrete so far.
have you got it figured out yet??
snutter
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Ha he's not mad that's the link to the story
oh, hahahah...you assholes...have a good laugh on me guys...LOL!!! Ok, that is really funny! Good one dude. I'm seriously sitting here feeling like an idiot stoner now. Everyone else figures it out but me... Too funny dudes!!!
Ok, fuckit. another bong hit and a beer for me, and then I'll go read the story.
I'm still laughing. Hope you all had a good laugh too....and that you realize i meant "assholes" in the nicest way possible!!!
-S
laserbrn
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I haven't resolved that issue yet and I don't know what's causing it. But the male I left sitting in my sink for a few days DID NOT WILT while sitting there. I don't know WHAT the fuck to think on that front. It seems to actually be less severe now so I have to think it's oxygen deprivation at the roots, but I'm still unsure.oh, hahahah...you assholes...have a good laugh on me guys...LOL!!! Ok, that is really funny! Good one dude. I'm seriously sitting here feeling like an idiot stoner now. Everyone else figures it out but me... Too funny dudes!!!
Ok, fuckit. another bong hit and a beer for me, and then I'll go read the story.
I'm still laughing. Hope you all had a good laugh too....and that you realize i meant "assholes" in the nicest way possible!!!
-S
I had a SUDDEN ONSET Cal/MG problem though over the past couple of days I guess. All of my leaves are developing brown spots and starting to twist/curl. I switched RO waters and this one must have zero cal in it so I picked up some cal-mag plus, should straighten out the problem. It was just sudden as fuck! Hydro can be so unforgiving...
OpTikPhiber
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Sorry but that was funny 
a lil lol never hurt anyone! ...a few days ago I too was also wondering about the comment toward the kirby salesman....I was sitting here thinking, "what did she screw him, did he find buds, what?" Damn women!
a lil lol never hurt anyone! ...a few days ago I too was also wondering about the comment toward the kirby salesman....I was sitting here thinking, "what did she screw him, did he find buds, what?" Damn women!
Barron
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I know what you mean man. I had a Cal/Mg problem on my plants early on and didn't think they were gonna make it! I added some Cal mag and everything turned around for the most part. Good luck!
laserbrn
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Yeah, I'm sorry this is happening guys, I'll get it straightened out and we can get these things flipped over to 12/12. You guys all agree on the Cal-Mag solution right? I've been around long enough, but this is the worst I've ever seen it this fast. I just checked the calibration on my ph meter and it's all good so I gotta think this is it. Shouldn't be anything causign a lockout so we'll see if it gets better over the next few days/weeks. It looks worse than it is because I JUST topped these plants so now the lower leaves are the upper looking leaves if ya know what I mean. Some of the new growth is showing it and that sucks, but I'm sure they'll grow through it. I hate these kinds of problems, but every strain is so different and I never seem to want to grow the same shit...haha.
I have 20+ good looking cuttings that are seemingly happy thus far. At least another 8-10 days to see roots on those easy, but I know when I grow them to use freakin' Cal-Mag from the start. That's the kind of lesson I always seem to learn from a first run with a strain.
Now I know exactly what these plants need in veg, flower should be an adventure once we get there.
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snutter
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I don't know man... Cal/mg, are you sure??? I mean, it's important nutrient during veg, but NOT one of the big ones... I have such a hard time thinking that is the problem. But, I don't remember what type of nutes you're using...are they low on the cal/mg? In that case, I could totally understand it. And the leaves are showing what looks to be that type of problem when I look at the FAQ diagnoses chart...
But here's what I was thinking....
The wilting leaf problem....The ONLY thing i can think of is lack of oxygen to the roots. You've ruled out almost everything else. Yet, your system should be delivering enough oxygen with the setup you have going. My figuring is that during sleep they need less, and so they bounce back. and then 3/4 of the way through the light cycle, they aren't getting what they need. at the same time I was thinking that while they suffer for the oxygen they need, it's causing a problem with nitrogen getting to the plant as well, and thus the browning of the leaves.
Now, I'm no expert problem diagnoser....this is just the thoughts I've been having. I've been thinking about your problem a lot more than you probably know, dude. I want to see you have a VERY successful fucking incredible grow!!!
Anyways, I will continue to research your problem and I hope that between every one at this site, we can get it whipped!!! Until then I think you should go ahead and try the cal/mg and see where that gets you....Maybe that is it. Let's hope so, brutha!
-S
But here's what I was thinking....
The wilting leaf problem....The ONLY thing i can think of is lack of oxygen to the roots. You've ruled out almost everything else. Yet, your system should be delivering enough oxygen with the setup you have going. My figuring is that during sleep they need less, and so they bounce back. and then 3/4 of the way through the light cycle, they aren't getting what they need. at the same time I was thinking that while they suffer for the oxygen they need, it's causing a problem with nitrogen getting to the plant as well, and thus the browning of the leaves.
Now, I'm no expert problem diagnoser....this is just the thoughts I've been having. I've been thinking about your problem a lot more than you probably know, dude. I want to see you have a VERY successful fucking incredible grow!!!
Anyways, I will continue to research your problem and I hope that between every one at this site, we can get it whipped!!! Until then I think you should go ahead and try the cal/mg and see where that gets you....Maybe that is it. Let's hope so, brutha!
-S
laserbrn
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Haha, no worries.
I would normal not jump to cal/mag and wouldn't want to do anything "rash", but adding CalMag Plus isn't rash and it sure is presenting like an MG Deficiency. The nightly wilting I've eliminated everything from so I'm going to go with it being related to the normal process for the plant. I KNOW the roots are getting lots of oxygen and the male I pulled up showed no signs of root rot, the roots were bright white (except where they were slightly tinted from the nutrient solution). The rockwool cube was moist, but not wet, everything was really in order in the root zone. I have played with the watering cycles more than enough to eliminate that causing the problem and with the use of hydroton it's nearly impossible to starve the roots of oxygen.
At the rate they developed the "MG symptoms" it will be obvious whether or not this has helped or hurt the problem. The plants turned on me over just a day or two so whatever is causing it is fairly severe.
I am using Advanced Nutrients Grow A&B and have in the past had some slighlt MG problems using RO water, but honestly nothing this fast. The current state of the plants isn't dire, they are still fairly healthy with only really one leaf amongst the entire 8 plants being remarkably damaged, it's just the rate at which it's occruring that is troubling not really the extent of the damage thus far. The recovery should be prompt and noticeable after a few days (in all of the growth) if the problem was a simple lack of MG.
laserbrn
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Cal-Mag Plus seems to have corrected the problem. The leaves are of course still damaged, but the damage seems to have stopped spreading and the new growth looks mean and green again. All will be well soon, they are just starting to turn the corner in recovery from the topping, I've noticed that you lose about a week by doing it and they seem to be right about on that track.
The cuttings look really good, no yellowing or wilting as of yet, I suspect they will root just fine and survive. I have 23 clones and I don't know yet how many are female which is an odd feeling.
The cuttings look really good, no yellowing or wilting as of yet, I suspect they will root just fine and survive. I have 23 clones and I don't know yet how many are female which is an odd feeling.
laserbrn
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Thanks....I'm just really surprised how fast they turned south. I live about 35 min. from the nearest hydro store. I realized on the first day that hmmm "I need to pick up some Cal-Mag" and by the second day it was "What the fuck? I REALLY need to pick up some Cal-Mag quick!".
I get off of work about an hour before the hydro store closes and it's 35 minutes from my home, about 45 minutes from work. If I get held up at all leaving the office it's not a good gamble to try to make it there. I had to go at lunch and pick that up and it seems to have saved the day.
I think it was just the combination of topping and having the calcium deficiency that made it look SO bad. All of the upper "newer growth" from the time are my pretty, green and mean, clones and the lower, older growth that was more damaged became the new tops of the plants so the problem juts SEEMED to have spread reallly quickly.