Spider Mite Control

NewGrowth

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Hey i just sprayed mine with neem oil. There has been a bad infestation and They have formed a few cobwebs. They are on their 4 week of flower. When should i use the floramite? Three days after soaking in neem?
If they are forming webs it is probably too late. You can try a stronger control like floramite. Azamax would be more recommended in flower. If you have other plants that are not infested as badly you may want to isolate or even destroy the heavily infested plants.
 

Hayduke

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I was using a spray of 1T(tablespoon)Hemp oil, 1T hemp-peppermint castille soap, 1T H202, 1T 90% Isopropyl alcohol to a half gallon of warm water. I sprayed every 5 days 3 times and it was very effective for adults but had to keep spraying to catch the newly hatched. I had one that was ready for harvest but had a couple of visible adults as well as a few eggs. I did not want to spray just before harvest, and I did not want them to just keep eating my buds in the jar.

I remembered using CO2 to kill Drosophila (fruit flies) in a Genetics lab...

Now this wont work for everyone...but if you brew beer, use CO2 in your grow, or play paintball etc and have access to C02...you can kill them with the gas, while giving your plant a little spa treatment. The plant looked dramatically better afterward...think of it like a hyperbaric chamber like they use for wound healing using pure 02, but for plants!

This plant was ready for harvest so I just bent over the branches to fit in a black trash bag, sucked out air with vacuum, and stuck the hose from my CO2 bottle in the bag and filled it up...I secured the bag around hose with tape (later when doing multiple plants I twisted and tied the bags). I gave a couple of shots of gas over the next day or so and the buds looked healed and the mites were gone.

Note: I had always kept ladybugs for prevention until about Oct.

This worked so well for the plant ready for harvest, I stopped the spray regime, bought some 45 gallon clear bags from smart & final (to not disturb light cycle) and bagged up half the garden (It is small) gassed for 24hrs and then the other half. I then released about 300 lady bugs to clean up the mess and any that...might have held their breath for a day:lol:

I believe this also killed the eggs through osmosis or some gas law or something...cuz they looked dessicated and have not returned.

Note: the gas comes out pretty cold. The last two bags I filled, I filled the last right after filling the 1st, and though I had a plastic fitting preventing the gas from spraying directly on the plants...I gave the plants in the last bag a touch of frost bite...luckily these were in veg and in no hurry and have since started to recover.
Also When treating multiple plants in this manor, one should be aware of the toxicity of CO2 to people and animals as well as it's tendency to drop to the floor and resist exhaust...so be careful especially for little ones who crawl the floor...fuzzy or not.

I failed to re-up on ladybugs a few months back for their refusal to eat thrips (horticultural grade diatomaceous earth for all crawling larval stage pests!!!! sprinkle on soil surface)...I will never do that again, they are my friends!

:leaf::peace::leaf:
 

litljohn

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ive had mites for a while now and i tried safer soap but that only knocked them back.my friend gave me this shit called ortho miteacide,he said it works awesome but cant use for 3 weeks before harvest.i also got a hot shots no pest strip.this is my first time using both.i have 5 weeks left so i will use both for 2 weeks and then move the no pest strip to the vegg room or in the room that my two grow cabs are in,does this sound like a good plan???
 

terrorizer805

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I never get bugsbecause I always spray my plants with neem oil even if there is no sign of bugs. Works every time.
 

Hayduke

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So you have had success with ladybugs?
I did not even try to use them for the majority of the kill...I doubt that they would do anything besides become mite ranchers and manage the herd. I do believe that they will prevent an infestation by picking off the few inevitable hitchhikers.

I killed them with CO2:bigjoint:

Don't tell Al Gore!

:leaf::peace::leaf:
 

mr.smileyface

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If they are forming webs it is probably too late. You can try a stronger control like floramite. Azamax would be more recommended in flower. If you have other plants that are not infested as badly you may want to isolate or even destroy the heavily infested plants.
I only seen one or two webs on a few of them. out of 150 is it to late? i got them with neem oil good and now the store owner sold me azamax. They dont sell it in canada but the owner does haha. He told me it would work good. He told me not to spray two week proir to harvest, unless its still a problem. im going to rotaite between neem and azamax. What happends if i dont get all the mites by the harvest??
 

NewGrowth

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I only seen one or two webs on a few of them. out of 150 is it to late? i got them with neem oil good and now the store owner sold me azamax. They dont sell it in canada but the owner does haha. He told me it would work good. He told me not to spray two week proir to harvest, unless its still a problem. im going to rotaite between neem and azamax. What happends if i dont get all the mites by the harvest??
Yah if it's not that bad a few sprayings of Azamax should wipe them out if they have not already built up a tolerance to the neem.
 

mr.smileyface

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I dont have a 30x scope. but i know mites when i see them..I sprayed neem oil and then two days later i sprayed azamax. I got them good under the leafs when i used a pump sprayer. I avoided the buds(4weeks in) and got under all their leaves... Now i look and they are white specs that can be brushed off easyer. before they kinda looked red or orange. now they are white. Are they dead?
 

NewGrowth

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I dont have a 30x scope. but i know mites when i see them..I sprayed neem oil and then two days later i sprayed azamax. I got them good under the leafs when i used a pump sprayer. I avoided the buds(4weeks in) and got under all their leaves... Now i look and they are white specs that can be brushed off easyer. before they kinda looked red or orange. now they are white. Are they dead?
yep sounds like they are dead :mrgreen: Some eggs may still hatch so just repeat spraying azamax in a couple weeks. Don't spray anymore neem later though it can impart a funny taste to the bud.
 

MacGuyver4.2.0

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Lot's of folks have been hit by the BORG of insects, Spidermites and feel your pain. Surrender IS NOT an option. Fight the lil beaties to the very end. Lots of good tips in this thread and my personal method has worked for me.

Spider Mite Control

Here's what I have used with good results!
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Spider mites SUCK! If you have them on one plant chances are they are on all of them. So very small and difficult to see unless you use a loupe or magnifier(at least for me anyways). I had one harvest *almost* get ruined by the critters and then I fought back with technology...and won! I did not want to use any chemicals on my ladies so close to harvest, and ended up using...STEAM!:fire:

Bought a Rowenta steamer from Bed Bath &Way Beyond and it worked like a charm! Best way is to do this somewhat *safely* is to water your plants, wait an hour and then hit the plants EVERYWHERE with the steam. You cannot concentrate the steam in any one area for too long or you'll cook the poor plant!:leaf: The neat thing about this is the temperature. The mites simply crumble and die as soon as the hot steam hits them! Again you HAVE to be careful or you'll cause more harm than good, but if you pay attention to what your doing, you can do this! After you have hit all areas thoroughly, let your ladies rest for 1-2 days then hit em again. The live mites die easily but the eggs may still hatch (nasty things). If you cannot control the mites after 3 steam treatments, you should abandon ship and chop em down, sorry.:sad: Good luck and let us know how you faired in this time of crisis. :wink:
 

DannyGreenEyes

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Found a vital tool in the fight against mites.

It's a petroleum based suffocant, and it kills eggs. It may or may not kill 100% of the eggs, but it's the only thing that will kill eggs, and the mites can't become immune to it. I'd recommend using it on every treatment in conjunction with whatever else you're using.

For the doubters, here's a link to a site run by the FL Dept of Agriculture & the Univ of S FL Agricultural dept. If you look up spider mites & follow the first link at the bottom of the page, it says that "petroleum provides some ovicidal activity against spider mite eggs" which means it kills eggs. And it's the only thing that I know of that will.

You may also want to book mark this site, it has a lot of valuable info about a lot of different pests. http://entomology.ifas.ufl.edu/creatures/

And here are the links for the product. It's made by Bonide which is a name I trust. They also make another product called Mite X which can be used in conjunction with this. And these products are all natural & can be used right up till the day of harvest.

http://www.bonideproducts.com/lbonide/b ... s/l214.pdf
http://www.arbico-organics.com/1274101.html
http://www.biconet.com/botanicals/ashdso.html
http://shop.horticultureguy.com/all-sea ... u-385.html
http://www.millernurseries.com/cart.php ... tail&p=672
http://www.arbico-organics.com/1274104.html
http://www.millernurseries.com/cart.php ... tail&p=671
http://www.plantitearth.com/pest-contro ... spray.aspx
http://www.gardeningthings.com/sm/cimpu ... id=1.21.54

You may also be able to find it at your local nurseries or hard ware stores with a lawn & garden dept., but just in case I listed some links of places you can order from.

Good luck, and good hunting.
 

DannyGreenEyes

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sounds like a pretty harsh product. have you actually used this stuff on your plants with no damage? what strain?
I used it, and the leaves actually got softer, like I put moisturizer on them or something.

I can't say about the damage, I'm dealing with some nute problems that are killing off my leaves.

If you use it every other treatment, I think it should be OK.

Bonide is an old & respected company. If it were dangerous, I'm sure they wouldn't make the All Seasons spray. (98% petroleum oil in concentrate)

One note, give them a few hours to dry before putting them back under the HIDs.
 
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