Does a normal 10-30-20 contain cal?

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Imaulle

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yes, I know what they are. You're the one asking if some unknown brand fert has Ca in it...

the only other one I could find that comes in 25 lb bag that isn't Jacks is from Southern Agricultural and it's just called 'Bloom Booster'


http://www.southernag.com/docs/labels_msds/10-30-20.pdf

GUARANTEED ANALYSIS:
TOTAL NITROGEN (N) ............................................. 10.0%
Nitrate Nitrogen (N) ................................. 5.10%
Ammoniacal Nitrogen (N) ....................... 4.90%
Water Soluble Organic Nitrogen (N) ....... 0.00%
AVAILABLE PHOSPHORIC ACID (P2
O5
) ................ 30.0%
SOLUBLE POTASH (K2
O) ....................................... 20.0%
Chlorine not more than 1.0%
SECONDARY PLANT NUTRIENTS:
Iron as Fe (Chelated) ............................................. 0.10%
Manganese as Mn (Chelated) ................................ 0.05%
Zinc as Zn (Chelated) ............................................ 0.05%
Copper as Cu (Chelated) ....................................... 0.05%
Boron as B ............................................................ 0.02%
Molybdenum as Mo ............................................... 0.0005%


I doubt anything that comes in 25 lb bags will have any Ca in it...
 
mr.smileyface

mr.smileyface

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Ok you might be right.. Should i add some micro to the mix of 10-30-20.How much should i use? I guess most soil contains lime with it..
 
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Imaulle

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I'm not too sure. read up on all of Uncle Bens posts. He is the only person on this forum I trust really.

I'm not sure your soil, but for me, I use Happy Frog and that is full of Ca (oyster and dolomite) so I just veg with jacks 30-10-10 till after the stretch (about 3 weeks into 12/12) then switch to the jacks 10-30-20. If your leaves start to yellow etc then switch back to the veg food to maintain good healthy foliage. Keeping all the leaves as healthy as possible should be your main priority.
 
mr.smileyface

mr.smileyface

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Imaulle said:
I'm not too sure. read up on all of Uncle Bens posts. He is the only person on this forum I trust really.

I'm not sure your soil, but for me, I use Happy Frog and that is full of Ca (oyster and dolomite) so I just veg with jacks 30-10-10 till after the stretch (about 3 weeks into 12/12) then switch to the jacks 10-30-20. If your leaves start to yellow etc then switch back to the veg food to maintain good healthy foliage. Keeping all the leaves as healthy as possible should be your main priority.
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Im not doing soil. its soilless. i think im just gonna add micro to the mix and get calcium like that. i might just get some cal mag and give them that till harvest. just add to the mix
 
Fditty00

Fditty00

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mr.smileyface said:
its funny cause im using dry fert and chem fert. 10-30-20 mix with kushie kush,hydroboost,diamondnectar,koolbloom,karbo boost,koool bloom, rhinoskin. I use the kool bloom and karbo boost and mixed with the 10-30-20 and diamond nectar and half strenght rhinoskin(after week 4). in the start (week 1-4)i use kushie kush and hydroboost mixed with diamond nectar and 10-30-20 and rhinoskin.. im going to add a few table spoons of GH micro in the mix to balance out everything. But i think the 10-30-20 contains all the nutes but since im adding bloom boost and more P and K from differnt sources with only mg as secondary. I think it would be better if the extra micro was there
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U use all that shit? Glad i aint smokin ur weed...
 
seasmoke

seasmoke

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I'm not too sure. read up on all of Uncle Bens posts. He is the only person on this forum I trust really.

I'm not sure your soil, but for me, I use Happy Frog and that is full of Ca (oyster and dolomite) so I just veg with jacks 30-10-10 till after the stretch (about 3 weeks into 12/12) then switch to the jacks 10-30-20. If your leaves start to yellow etc then switch back to the veg food to maintain good healthy foliage. Keeping all the leaves as healthy as possible should be your main priority.
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So your using the Orchid Special? Great, I was wondering about using that for fert in vegg, i'm ordering it today. + rep.
 
mr.smileyface

mr.smileyface

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Fditty00 said:
U use all that shit? Glad i aint smokin ur weed...
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Im from bc and if you would smoke my weed you would get axiety haha. its going good. I flush for 7 days with floraclean for the first water and then plain water the next. Its soilless mix so if i didnt give them anything the bud wouldnt be good. Just go attend to your foxfarm and three plants.
 
mr.smileyface

mr.smileyface

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Im just going to add cal mg with the bloom booster and 10-30-20. Also 2 oz micro per 25 gallon. What would the first sign of calcium def. look like?? rep+
 
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Imaulle

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seasmoke said:


So your using the Orchid Special? Great, I was wondering about using that for fert in vegg, i'm ordering it today. + rep.
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yeah man, I've only feed with it twice, but I've already noticed a huuuuuge improvement. the stuff is amazing for only costing $4.99
 
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DannyGreenEyes

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mr.smileyface said:
Im just going to add cal mg with the bloom booster and 10-30-20. Also 2 oz micro per 25 gallon. What would the first sign of calcium def. look like?? rep+
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Here are some pics of early Calcium Deficiency. You should really check out that link I posted the other day.

Hope these help.
 

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mr.smileyface

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Thanks dude. They dont look like that. Maybe they havent got calcium for 6 weeks. but they dont look like those pics. They look healthier .Would the small amout of lime in Promix help for calcium? and how should i add the cal mag? in plain water or a mix?
 
ganjaluvr

ganjaluvr

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mr.smileyface said:
its sunshine sumthing. im not to sure
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Hey dude.. I use a "Sunshine" brand of soil.

I don't think it's the same one you got though.

If you want a good soil? Honestly.. I have

never had any problems with the soil.. all my

plants (current ones and past ones) love the shit.

Go and get yourself a bag of 'Fertilome'

brand soil. Plants love that stuff bro...


The sunshine brand is alright too.. I've used it before.


Good luck! peace.
 
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Imaulle

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mr.smileyface said:
what can i do? what would you do? does the lime source in the soilless mix give calcium?
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the dolomite should be enough Ca..

but it could just be that your leaves aren't getting enough N, so maybe feed with a high Nitrogen food till they recover...

I'd have to see a picture to get a better idea. and need more info on your medium
 
mr.smileyface

mr.smileyface

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ganjaluvr said:
Hey dude.. I use a "Sunshine" brand of soil.

I don't think it's the same one you got though.

If you want a good soil? Honestly.. I have

never had any problems with the soil.. all my

plants (current ones and past ones) love the shit.

Go and get yourself a bag of 'Fertilome'

brand soil. Plants love that stuff bro...


The sunshine brand is alright too.. I've used it before.


Good luck! peace.
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Yea sunshine is a soilless mix like promix?
It says promix has lime in it. would that lime be enough calcium for the plant or should i add cal mag?
 
seasmoke

seasmoke

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I add dolomite lime to my promix, and never overdosed yet. good additive i think.
I think Imaulle has a pretty good recipe...follow that.
 
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