Listen to JFK ...

ViRedd

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Listen to JFK

[SIZE=-1]Posted: November 23, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern

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[FONT=Palatino,]By Joseph Farah

[SIZE=-1]© 2007 [/SIZE]

Can we learn from history?

I hope so.

Though, the correct answer appears to be, not if you are a Democrat.
Forty-five years ago this week, President John F. Kennedy announced a startling economic discovery. He tried to educate the American people about why he was cutting taxes – not that the American people or any other people have ever needed to be persuaded to cut taxes.

In a news conference Nov. 20, 1962, he said: "It is a paradoxical truth that tax rates are too high and tax revenues are too low and the soundest way to raise the revenues in the long run is to cut the rates now. ... Cutting taxes now is not to incur a budget deficit, but to achieve the more prosperous, expanding economy which can bring a budget surplus."

Still, 20 years later, many were skeptical when Ronald Reagan explained the same principle again. Nevertheless, the policies worked both times – to perfection.

As for Kennedy, still an icon of the modern American Democratic Party, it was not the first nor the last time he would make this point.

In his budget message to the Congress Jan. 17, 1963, he explained: "Lower rates of taxation will stimulate economic activity and so raise the levels of personal and corporate income as to yield within a few years an increased – not a reduced – flow of revenues to the federal government."

He underscored the point a few days later Jan. 21, 1963, in his annual address to the Congress: "In today's economy, fiscal prudence and responsibility call for tax reduction even if it temporarily enlarges the federal deficit – why reducing taxes is the best way open to us to increase revenues." He added: "It is no contradiction – the most important single thing we can do to stimulate investment in today's economy is to raise consumption by major reduction of individual income tax rates."

Three days later, in another message to the Congress on tax reduction and reform, he said: "Our tax system still siphons out of the private economy too large a share of personal and business purchasing power and reduces the incentive for risk, investment and effort – thereby aborting our recoveries and stifling our national growth rate."

Just a couple months before he was assassinated in the streets of Dallas, he made a television address to the nation on his tax-reduction bill. He told his fellow Americans Sept. 18, 1963: "A tax cut means higher family income and higher business profits and a balanced federal budget. Every taxpayer and his family will have more money left over after taxes for a new car, a new home, new conveniences, education and investment. Every businessman can keep a higher percentage of his profits in his cash register or put it to work expanding or improving his business, and as the national income grows, the federal government will ultimately end up with more revenues."

Throughout his young life, and particularly his short presidency, Kennedy made the point over and over again – high taxes were counterproductive, a drag on the economy, hurting the very people they would supposedly help through government programs.

In spite of Kennedy's leadership on this issue – and despite the historic evidence we have to show his policies worked – those who continue to idolize him today, members of his party, even members of his family, don't seem to get it. Or, if they do, they ignore the evidence for their own selfish reasons.

But you can't change history. You can ignore it at your own peril. You can attempt to distort it for your own benefit. You can purposely hide uncomfortable facts. However, John F. Kennedy said these things and he followed through with actions. There is simply no denying this reality.
We had to learn the lesson in the '60s. We had to learn it again in the '80s. Are we willing to learn it again in the beginning of the 21st century? Do we dare forget it?


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GoodFriend

Lumberjack
nice post Vi
i've long been (well, not too long, i am only 21, lol) against many different taxes... the government simply taking a cut in individuals business... leave me alone, dammit...
 

ViRedd

New Member
nice post Vi
i've long been (well, not too long, i am only 21, lol) against many different taxes... the government simply taking a cut in individuals business... leave me alone, dammit...
Thanks, lumberjack. There is nothing the Democrats don't want to tax or regulate. Their economic policies are anti-liberty, anti-freedom and anti-Man.

Vi





 

GoodFriend

Lumberjack




... VOTE RON PAUL


... lol
i'm just saying
there used to be these things, called states rights....

:blsmoke:
good growin friend =]
 

medicineman

New Member
Well, why don't all you anti-tax experts tell me why the national debt is careening past 9 trillion Bucks. Why the middle class is dissapearing. why the country is going into a depression. why the dollar is slipping into oblivion, why in this "Boom economy" millions are losing their homes. I think there is a time for low taxes, but not when you have a president that spends like the proverbial "Drunken sailor".
 

GoodFriend

Lumberjack
Well, why don't all you anti-tax experts tell me why the national debt is careening past 9 trillion Bucks. Why the middle class is dissapearing. why the country is going into a depression. why the dollar is slipping into oblivion, why in this "Boom economy" millions are losing their homes. I think there is a time for low taxes, but not when you have a president that spends like the proverbial "Drunken sailor".
... kill the president






:blsmoke:
 

VictorVIcious

Well-Known Member
Well, why don't all you anti-tax experts tell me why the national debt is careening past 9 trillion Bucks.
Maybe becuase we are trying to fight two wars that are unneccesary. We spend Billions on Foriegn Aid.

Why the middle class is dissapearing. why the country is going into a depression. why the dollar is slipping into oblivion, why in this "Boom economy" millions are losing their homes. I think there is a time for low taxes, but not when you have a president that spends like the proverbial "Drunken sailor".
Its time to stop the spending. Duh VV
 

ViRedd

New Member
Exactly right. We do not have a revenue problem. We have a spending problem.

Med ... Ask yourself why a twenty dollar gold piece costs 800 one-dollar federal reserve notes.

Ask yourself "what is a dollar?" That's right ... WHAT IS A DOLLAR? A "dollar" is nothing more than a term of measurement. If I walked up to you and asked you for a "gallon." you'd say: "A gallon of what?"... right? So, if I asked you for a "dollar" you should also ask in return, "a dollar of what?" If you held up a one-dollar federal reserve note and said ... "a dollar of one of these." I should retort, "Well, OK but what IS one of those?" And you would have to say: "Ummm, one of these is just a little paper coupon." And, I should say: "Med, why in the world would I want one of those when the government keeps printing more, thereby diluting the worth of all the rest of those paper coupons out there. Remember, it used to cost only a twenty dollar gold certificate to buy a twenty-dollar gold piece. I mean, if I took your one-dollar paper coupon I'd have to spend it immediately in order to not lose money on it." You, at that point would turn around in disgust and walk away muttering something about "Crazy Goldbugs." ~lol~

Vi
 

GoodFriend

Lumberjack
Exactly right. We do not have a revenue problem. We have a spending problem.

Med ... Ask yourself why a twenty dollar gold piece costs 800 one-dollar federal reserve notes.

Ask yourself "what is a dollar?" That's right ... WHAT IS A DOLLAR? A "dollar" is nothing more than a term of measurement. If I walked up to you and asked you for a "gallon." you'd say: "A gallon of what?"... right? So, if I asked you for a "dollar" you should also ask in return, "a dollar of what?" If you held up a one-dollar federal reserve note and said ... "a dollar of one of these." I should retort, "Well, OK but what IS one of those?" And you would have to say: "Ummm, one of these is just a little paper coupon." And, I should say: "Med, why in the world would I want one of those when the government keeps printing more, thereby diluting the worth of all the rest of those paper coupons out there. Remember, it used to cost only a twenty dollar gold certificate to buy a twenty-dollar gold piece. I mean, if I took your one-dollar paper coupon I'd have to spend it immediately in order to not lose money on it." You, at that point would turn around in disgust and walk away muttering something about "Crazy Goldbugs." ~lol~

Vi

for some reason i'm getting images of atlas shrugged running through my head... =]
 

GoodFriend

Lumberjack
that author changed my life =]


thank god she got away from that damned commy ussr...

haha
it should be required reading for all highschool students...
 

threatlevelorange

Well-Known Member
We do not have a revenue problem. We have a spending problem.

Vi
Dare I take it step further and say we have BOTH.

The problem isn't spending too much on programs...the school system and the IRS for instance are both undernourished. What we need is program cutting. We can start with taking a real look at Iraq, since that is siphoning alot of the money. Next is the wars on drugs, poverty, ect... in no particualr order because they should all be dealt with swiftly in the same day.

Oh and the revenue problem is because it is getting harder and harder to move from middle class to rich as time goes on. Leave the money with the people. They are smart enough to earn it, therefore they are smart enough to choose how it is spent.
 

medicineman

New Member
Dare I take it step further and say we have BOTH.

The problem isn't spending too much on programs...the school system and the IRS for instance are both undernourished. What we need is program cutting. We can start with taking a real look at Iraq, since that is siphoning alot of the money. Next is the wars on drugs, poverty, ect... in no particualr order because they should all be dealt with swiftly in the same day.

Oh and the revenue problem is because it is getting harder and harder to move from middle class to rich as time goes on. Leave the money with the people. They are smart enough to earn it, therefore they are smart enough to choose how it is spent.
So, would you say a drug dealer is smart, because they can make a lot of money? Could it be wrong because it is illegal, or because they take advantage of peoples weaknesses? Money is only a vehicle to show the real essence of a person. Drug dealers that operate on other peoples misery can be as rich as a corporate mogul that does likewise. It is what a person does with his money that truly defines him. Once you get past the basic tenets of survival and comfort, the excess money you have and the way you use it defines you. Some buy drugs and alcohol. some buy stocks, some invest in real estate, some start companies, some indulge themselves in untold luxuries. What you do with your money is what you are made of, make it count.
 
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