Iran Update...

NewGrowth

Well-Known Member
I don't see a real retort in front of me. That post is dead on accurate.

THE USA DOES SHINE IN COMPARISON.

The is no contest, and it amazes me that you throw ur govt. under the bus, but not the enemies.

Incredible & naive. You grow up in a system which gives you the best chance at happiness, and yet, it's us that's the problem, not Russia, not Iran, not China, not North Korea .....

Naive, or spoiled, or both?

Well you asked for a retort and I'm high enough to give yah one;-)

The following is a partial list of atrocities, massacres, murders, and injuries in recent history for which the United Sates is responsible:

• 3,000,000 Vietnamese murdered over the course of about 30 years of US aggression.

• Well over 300,000 Japanese were massacred when the US raided Tokyo and dropped nuclear bombs on the urban civilian areas of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

• 600,000 civilians were killed in Cambodia by US bombing between 1969 and 1975.

• Over 500,000 people were killed in Laos when America subjected civilians to "secret bombing" from 1964 to 1973, dropping over two million tons of bombs on the country. Over one fourth of the population also became refugees.

• 100,000 people were murdered in South Korea prior to the Korean War by a brutal repression supported by US forces in 1945. This includes between 30,000 and 40,000 killed during the suppression of a peasant revolt on Cheju Island.

• Up to 4,500,000 Koreans were killed from 1951 to 1953 during America’s massive slaughter in the Korean War.

• 200,000 were murdered when the Philippines were conquered by American forces. (This took place just over 100 years ago.)

• 23,000 people were slaughtered in Taiwan by US-backed, trained, equipped, and funded forces (Chiang’s Nationalist Army) during the late 1940s.

• 700,000 Indonesians (mostly landless peasants) were murdered in 1965 when the US armed and supported General Suharto.

• 200,000 were slaughtered in East Timor in 1975 by General Suharto with US support.

• 750,000 civilians were driven from their homes in East Timor by Indonesian forces in 1999 and 10,000 were killed.

• Over 1,700,000 Iraqis have been killed by US bombings and sanctions, mostly women and children.

• Over 1,000,000 lives were lost during the Iran-Iraq War in the 1980s in which the US used direct force and supported Hussein and Iraq.

• 35,000 Kurds were killed, 3,500 villages were destroyed, and between 2,000,000 and 3,000,000 became homeless as a result of aggression by Turkey with US arming and training in the 1990s.

• Over 1,000,000 people were killed in Afghanistan’s civil war from 1979 to 1992, in which the US strongly supported the Moujahedeen, the most violent and sadistic of the forces. (This also set the stage for the CIA-backed Taliban to attain power.)

• 45,000 people were killed in South Lebanon since 1982 by Israel, always armed and supported by the US

• Thousands have been killed in Palestine and millions (in both Palestine and Lebanon) were made refugees by US-backed Israel.

• Over 150,000 were killed in Greece when America advised, equipped, and financed violent interventions in the late 1940s and late 1960s.

• Over 75,000 civilians were killed and over one million refugees were created in El Salvador from 1980 to 1994 when the US intensely supported the efforts of a brutal regime and its death squads to eliminate a popular uprising.

• 40,000 civilians were killed by the US-backed National Guard in Nicaragua over the course of almost 50 years.

• 30,000 lives were killed by the US contras in Nicaragua from 1979 to 1989.

• 200,000 Guatemalans were slaughtered from 1960-1990s by a military apparatus trained, armed, funded, and assisted by America.

• Over 35,000 Colombian civilians have been killed during the US-supported Colombian war against left-wing rebels.

• More than 4,000 innocent civilians were killed in Panama during the US invasion in 1989.

• Hundreds of thousands were killed by US direct and indirect interventions in Brazil, Chile, Uruguay, Peru, and Argentina from the mid 60s through the 80s.

• 50,000 Haitians were killed when the US military destroyed a peasant uprising in 1915.

• Between 4,000 and 5,000 Haitians were killed in the early 1990s by US-established forces.

• Thousands were killed in the Dominican Republic during the 1960s when US and Dominican troops crushed a pro-Bosch rebellion.

• Over 3,000 were killed and countless others injured by US interventions in Cuba.

• Hundreds were killed or injured when the US invaded Grenada in 1983.

• Over 50,000 Somalians were killed between 1978 and 1990 by US-supported Siad Barre.

• Up to 10,000 more Somalians were killed directly by US troops during America’s "humanitarian mission" in 1993.

• In the US-supported Rwandan genocide, an estimated 800,000 people were killed in just 100 days in 1994.

• Over 300,000 were killed and 80,000 were crippled in Angola from a US-supported civil war.

• Tens of thousands were killed and up to 200,000 were tortured in Chad by Hissen Habre with US support during the 1980’s.

• Over 1,000,000 were killed during Mozambique’s civil war (1980-1992), in which the brutally violent RENAMO forces were supported by the US

• 1,500,000 were killed between 1980 and 1988 in southern Africa by the US-armed South Africa.

• Thousands of people in Pacific islands, Puerto Rico, Utah, California, Nevada, Washington, New Mexico, and various other places have been killed, infected, or harmed as a result of US weapon experiments (especially nuclear weapons and weapons using depleted uranium).

• Hundreds of civil rights activists have been beaten, tortured, framed, and killed in the US by government agencies in recent history.

• Hundreds of Black Panther supporters and American Indians were framed, beaten, or murdered by the FBI and its cohorts in the late 60’s and early 70’s.

• Over 1,200 immigrants and citizens in America (mostly of Arab decent) were detained after September 11, 2001, without evidence of law-breaking or terrorist activity.

• Thousands have been killed during America’s recent "War on Terror."

• Over 2,500 US soldiers and over 40,000 Iraqi civilians have perished since George W’s recent invasion of Iraq.
 

Hayduke

Well-Known Member
You are incredibly delusional, though it is not surprising propaganda has proven to be an even more powerful tool than war.

It also amazes me that someone linked to counter-culture and illegal activities would trust the government . . . . I prefer the truth.:leaf:
No kidding! And to suggest that those who question the actions of our government, do not love our country is...well...more of the same from CJ.

It is actually those who unquestioningly stomp their feet and wave the flag, while pointing out the "lesser" citizens who have been the allies of tyrants for a millennium.

It is actually those who keep a watchful and suspicious eye on those who become drunk with the power and ability to profit off imperialism that have assured that you have retained most freedoms.

Baa...Ram...Ewe

:leaf::peace::leaf:
 

NewGrowth

Well-Known Member
Let me know when ur going to give a serious response.

or shall I embarrass you now?
Jax, I've provided you with the truth. You can choose to accept it or not, this is no longer a debate because lies need to be repeated, the truth only needs to be said once.

Good luck to ya Jax :peace:
 

Hayduke

Well-Known Member
"Iran says it needs the 20 percent enriched fuel for a research reactor producing radio isotopes to treat cancer and manufacture radiography materials. Iran says more than 850,000 people need the products for their illnesses."

90% enriched needed for weapons.

Maybe they are planning to kill all the jews by treating their cancer! Chemotherapy makes tumor free corpses!

:leaf::peace::leaf:
 

NewGrowth

Well-Known Member
Missle Shield in the Gulf now, Air Craft carriers what's next a NATO sponsored invasion? Not without another 'terror' attack I'll bet.

Place your bets mine is on Isreal striking first . . .
 

Hayduke

Well-Known Member
I doubt Israel has the balls to do anything overtly...we were warned last week to expect an attack in 3-6 months:sad:

:leaf::peace::leaf:
 

figtree

Active Member
Isreal is frothing at the mouth to attack iran and will use any means possible to justify it.
demonize anyone and you can attack them for no reason, like we do (pre-emptive). we can say they are terrorists and justify attacking anyone we want with just a label and saying they have WMD. even if its not the case.
Isnt fear fun? Isnt fear a powerful tool?

in our country you have to commit a crime before you can be arrested for it, outside of our country....... all we have to do is say they are going to commit a crime, and label them as terrorist then go get them/kill them pre-emptively.
we should treat other countries the way we want to be treated, and follow the treaties we sign, and the international laws of war. maybe if we did this we wouldnt be in a global war on terror, and we would be in a better light internationally.
 

CrackerJax

New Member
Okay....I'm sure by now most of you Iran supporters have realized that Iran is now a nuclear state... (weapon wise).

This thread is at an end...since what I predicted has come to pass.

I'm thinking of closing the thread since it's become a moot point.

But I have an open mind...if you want me to keep it open I will...otherwise tomorrow...it closes.

Now we all get to walk down the dark road together, since our leaders have failed us all.

Let me know ... open or closed... I don't care. My pyrrhic victory is complete.
Enjoy that health care.... priority FAIL.
 

NewGrowth

Well-Known Member
Okay....I'm sure by now most of you Iran supporters have realized that Iran is now a nuclear state... (weapon wise).

This thread is at an end...since what I predicted has come to pass.

I'm thinking of closing the thread since it's become a moot point.

But I have an open mind...if you want me to keep it open I will...otherwise tomorrow...it closes.

Now we all get to walk down the dark road together, since our leaders have failed us all.

Let me know ... open or closed... I don't care. My pyrrhic victory is complete.
Enjoy that health care.... priority FAIL.
:lol: "Nuclear state" that's a good one Jax:clap:

That's almost as funny as the Iraqi WMD's!
 

CrackerJax

New Member
Guess you missed their announcement... I'm not surprised....

I'll check back around 11:00 am tomorrow and count the votes.

The default will be thread closure.
 
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PadawanBater

Guest
Okay....I'm sure by now most of you Iran supporters have realized that Iran is now a nuclear state... (weapon wise).

This thread is at an end...since what I predicted has come to pass.

I'm thinking of closing the thread since it's become a moot point.

But I have an open mind...if you want me to keep it open I will...otherwise tomorrow...it closes.

Now we all get to walk down the dark road together, since our leaders have failed us all.

Let me know ... open or closed... I don't care. My pyrrhic victory is complete.
Enjoy that health care.... priority FAIL.
Prove it asshole, that's a lie.
 
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