age old organics

[chronic-man007]

hi i have abottle of age old organics 12-6-6=n-p-k the bottle says supplies your plants with fast acting natrual source of nutrients high in nitrogen will encourage growth and help plants overcome stress. should i give this to my plant my plant is in the vegy stage and help will be good from the masters of growing thnx

 

[bigballin007]

You can use it but use half the soulution it states on the bottle for two feedings then go full strenth.

 

[jack tripper]

that stuff is great

 

[smellmyfinger]

Should anything else be mixed and fed besides the Age Old Bloom or Grow? Does this have everything a plant would need?

 

[jack tripper]

Should anything else be mixed and fed besides the Age Old Bloom or Grow? Does this have everything a plant would need?

that stuff has everything you need, but it would be good to use molasses too, during flowering, it will fatten up your buds and improve taste

 

[jimbizzzale67123]

You should use a little epsom salt because age old organics is extremly low on Mn. Look it up on the internet I think its a teaspoon or tablespoon per gallon of water. You will not have to do this every watering I would do it once and ten if the plants show any Mn deficincy add anoter dose of epsome salt to your next watering.

 

[fdd2blk]

You should use a little epsom salt because age old organics is extremly low on Mn. Look it up on the internet I think its a teaspoon or tablespoon per gallon of water. You will not have to do this every watering I would do it once and ten if the plants show any Mn deficincy add anoter dose of epsome salt to your next watering.

i use age old nutes, is my lack of Mn causing these rust spots? i'm stumped on this one.

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my plants look really good otherwise but at 5 weeks into flower they start doing this. only indoors though. i'm in soil. one strain seems to be doing while the other isn't. "epsom salt" sounds like the last thing one would want to feed a plant, but i keep hearing people say it.

 

[jimbizzzale67123]

i use age old nutes, is my lack of Mn causing these rust spots? i'm stumped on this one.

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my plants look really good otherwise but at 5 weeks into flower they start doing this. only indoors though. i'm in soil. one strain seems to be doing while the other isn't. "epsom salt" sounds like the last thing one would want to feed a plant, but i keep hearing people say it.

Solutions to Nutrient Deficiencies
The Nutrients:

Nitrogen - Plants need lots of N during vegging, but it's easy to overdo it. Added too much? Flush the soil with plain water. Soluble nitrogen (especially nitrate) is the form that's the most quickly available to the roots, while insoluble N (like urea) first needs to be broken down by microbes in the soil before the roots can absorb it. Avoid excessive ammonium nitrogen, which can interfere with other nutrients. Too much N delays flowering. Plants should be allowed to become N-deficient late in flowering for best flavor.

Magnesium - Mg-deficiency is pretty common since cannabis uses lots of it and many fertilizers don't have enough of it. Mg-deficiency is easily fixed with � teaspoon/gallon of Epsom salts (first powdered and dissolved in some hot water) or foliar feed at � teaspoon/quart. When mixing up soil, use 2 teaspoon dolomite lime per gallon of soil for Mg. Mg can get locked-up by too much Ca, Cl or ammonium nitrogen. Don't overdo Mg or you'll lock up other nutrients.

Potassium - Too much sodium (Na) displaces K, causing a K deficiency. Sources of high salinity are: baking soda (sodium bicarbonate "pH-up"), too much manure, and the use of water-softening filters (which should not be used). If the problem is Na, flush the soil. K can get locked up from too much Ca or ammonium nitrogen, and possibly cold weather.

Phosphorous - Some deficiency during flowering is normal, but too much shouldn't be tolerated. Red petioles and stems are a normal, genetic characteristic for many varieties, plus it can also be a co-symptom of N, K, and Mg-deficiencies, so red stems are not a foolproof sign of P-deficiency. Too much P can lead to iron deficiency.

Iron - Fe is unavailable to plants when the pH of the water or soil is too high. If deficient, lower the pH to about 6.5 (for rockwool, about 5.7), and check that you're not adding too much P, which can lock up Fe. Use iron that's chelated for maximum availability. Read your fertilizer's ingredients - chelated iron might read something like "iron EDTA". To much Fe without adding enough P can cause a P-deficiency.

Manganese - Mn gets locked out when the pH is too high, and when there's too much iron. Use
chelated Mn.

Zinc - Also gets locked out due to high pH. Zn, Fe, and Mn deficiencies often occur together, and are usually from a high pH. Don't overdo the micro-nutrients- lower the pH if that's the problem so the
nutrients become available. Foliar feed if the plant looks real bad. Use chelated zinc.

I got this from another site, I have the same problem you have my girls look exactly like that. I havent done the epsome salt thing, I might check out how much a foliar feed is that is rich in Mn I read on other sites that is a good solution.

 

[jimbizzzale67123]

Mg deficiencies are fairly common. They frequently occur in Soilless mixtures, since many otherwise all-purpose fertilisers do not contain Mg. Magnesium deficiencies also occur in mixtures that contain very large amounts of Ca or Cl. Symptoms of Mg deficiency occur first on the lower leaves. There is chlorosis of tissue between the veins, which remain green, and starting from the tips the blades die and usually curl upward. Purple colour builds up on stems and petioles.
A plant in a pot may lose much of its colour in a matter of weeks. You may first notice Mg symptoms at the top of the plant. The leaves in the growing shoot are lime-coloured. In extreme cases, all the leaves turn practically white, with green veins. Iron deficiency looks much the same, but a sure indication of Mg deficiency is that a good portion of the leaf blades die and curl. Treat Mg symptoms with one-half teaspoon of epsom salts to each quart of water, and water as usual. The top leaves recover their green colour within four days, and all but the most damaged should recover gradually. Continue to fertilise with epsom salts as needed until the plants are flowering well. If you are using soilless mixtures, include epsom salts regularly with the complete mixture. Because Mg deficiencies may indicate interference from other nutrients, foliar-spray with Mg to check your diagnosis if the plants are not obviously recovering.


From Ed Rosenthal's book he fuckin knows his shit.

 

[jimbizzzale67123]

From What I have read Mn is what is causeing the Mn rust spots, funny enough only two of my 5 Skunk #1's have the rust spots they really jumped up over night, I am still struggling to learn how to provide a complete amount of nutrients, it looks like age old is low in B, Zn, Cu, and Mn so I guess a complete feeding of some kind of fert that contained those micronutrients that age old is lacking. This is really my first time useing age old organics, I use to feed with Earth Juice but I found it darkened the water too much and it was difficult to test the Ph. I think I will look around and try to find omething else to complement age old.

 

[dj crane]

Any type of molasses? I'v heard people say a certain type but when i look on the carton i don't know what exactly to look for and if any king will do?

 

[fdd2blk]

From What I have read Mn is what is causeing the Mn rust spots, funny enough only two of my 5 Skunk #1's have the rust spots they really jumped up over night, I am still struggling to learn how to provide a complete amount of nutrients, it looks like age old is low in B, Zn, Cu, and Mn so I guess a complete feeding of some kind of fert that contained those micronutrients that age old is lacking. This is really my first time useing age old organics, I use to feed with Earth Juice but I found it darkened the water too much and it was difficult to test the Ph. I think I will look around and try to find omething else to complement age old.

*awaiting your findings with eager eyes*

 

[odbsmydog]

From What I have read Mn is what is causeing the Mn rust spots, funny enough only two of my 5 Skunk #1's have the rust spots they really jumped up over night, I am still struggling to learn how to provide a complete amount of nutrients, it looks like age old is low in B, Zn, Cu, and Mn so I guess a complete feeding of some kind of fert that contained those micronutrients that age old is lacking. This is really my first time useing age old organics, I use to feed with Earth Juice but I found it darkened the water too much and it was difficult to test the Ph. I think I will look around and try to find omething else to complement age old.

I feed all my plants the same pura vida and the only one tht gets rust spots are my skunk #1's. weird..

 

[jimbizzzale67123]

Funny enough man I am growing 1 puple lady, 1 gigabud, and 5 Skunk #1's, and right now all the skunk #1's are showing dramatic combination of micro nutrient deficincies(I believe it is from lockout cause by Chlorine, I was lazey a few times) I am going to add some micro nutrients with plain distilled water. The purple lady is starting to show a slight sign of Mn deficincy but I am going to feed here tomorrow and hopefully it will knock that out. The Gigabud looks beautiful(amazing the two free seeds look the best) and shows no signs of micro deficincey, I will still add a little tomorrow. I guess the Skunk #1 is really just a hungry ass plant I am sorry I didnt spot the problems sooner/use beter choices for water, but this is only my third roll at this and I am still learning alot. I know next time and am going to still use ageold but supplement it with eart juice microblast and earth juice catalyst.

 

[rockymtnhigh]

I swear by Age Old. I live in CO, and other growers have tried to get me to switch to the newest, latest nutes--but my bud always is better than their bud, so why do it?

That being said, with Age Old, I do use epsom salt 3 times during the bud cycle. I do it a few weeks apart, and I add 1tbsp per gallon to their normal feeding. I've never tried molasses though, but I may try it next time. How much, and how often, do you use it? I can't imagine my buds tasting any better or being any bigger, but I'll give it a shot.

 

[majek]

Age Old is awesome, glad to see another 303 grower using it

 

[danksterzone]

I'm using only the Age Old Formula and yes I have seen signs of Mg(Magnesium) and Ca(Calcium) deficiency. I suggest getting a Cal/Mag additive which is available at the grow shops. If you can't find or can't afford it, get Epsom Salts or Garden Lime. I prefer to use the garden lime. It is a little better because it also contains an essential nutrient called Calcium which is not in Age Old as well as Mg. I use only a teaspoon per gal. when I see signs of deficiencies, so there isn't too much of a salt build up in the soil. The rust spots you guys are seeing is NOT a Mg def it is a Ca def click here and check out the pics of Ca def. Excessive levels of magnesium in your plants will exhibit a buildup of toxic salts that will kill the leaves and lock out other nutrients like Calcium. I suggest you guys flush your rusted plants with plain PHed water double the volume of the container it is in. Then dilute a solution of garden lime in warm water (1tsp per gal.) and foliar feed the rusted plants to replenish the ca and mg through the leaves. My ladies are looking great thanks to the lime.

 

[SupraSPL]

I have been using Age Old Grow and Age Old Bloom exclusively with good results in plain potting soil. The only thing I do differently is water and feed with 4 parts R/O, 1 part spring water. This brings the PH up a bit and adds calmag. The Age Old Bloom seems to increase the PH of the water more than the Age Old Grow but the runoff PH still looks OK if there is dolomite lime in the soil.

Long story short, I haven't seen any obvious deficiencies using Age Old all on its own. This has worked on about 10 different strains of very different types. There is always room for improvement though, maybe I'll give Earth Juice or Biobizz a try and do a side by side one of these times.

 

[univativegrower]

I have been using Age Old Grow and Age Old Bloom exclusively with good results in plain potting soil. The only thing I do differently is water and feed with 4 parts R/O, 1 part spring water. This brings the PH up a bit and adds calmag. The Age Old Bloom seems to increase the PH of the water more than the Age Old Grow but the runoff PH still looks OK if there is dolomite lime in the soil.

Long story short, I haven't seen any obvious deficiencies using Age Old all on its own. This has worked on about 10 different strains of very different types. There is always room for improvement though, maybe I'll give Earth Juice or Biobizz a try and do a side by side one of these times.

How often you guys use your age old bloom and at what dilution? Every watering or every other watering?

 

[fdd2blk]

How often you guys use your age old bloom and at what dilution? Every watering or every other watering?

outside i use A LOT. sometimes as much as double doses every other watering. but they were in pots and got heavily flushed with fresh water, every other watering as well. inside i am using half doses every third or forth watering and my plants look better than ever.