FU*K the Texas Board of Indoctrination

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PadawanBater

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Texas board adopts social studies standards

AUSTIN, Texas - The Texas State Board of Education has preliminarily adopted new social studies standards after days of heated debate marked by race and politics, shaping what teachers will be required to cover in social studies, history and economics classes for millions of students for the next decade. In amendment after amendment, the board's ultra-conservative faction wielded their power to shape lessons on the civil rights movement, the U.S. free enterprise system, religion and hundreds of other topics. The board voted 11-4 to adopt the standards Friday, after almost three days of emotional debate. A final vote is expected in May.

Decisions by the board - long led by social conservatives who have advocated ideas such as teaching more about the weaknesses of evolutionary theory - affects textbook content nationwide because Texas is one of publishers' biggest clients.

“We have been about conservatism versus liberalism," said Democrat Mavis Knight of Dallas, explaining her vote against the standards. “We have manipulated strands to insert what we want it to be in the document, regardless as to whether or not it's appropriate."
Republican Terri Leo, a member of the powerful Christian conservative voting bloc, called the standards “world class" and “exceptional."

In earlier votes, the elected board - made up of lawyers, a dentist and a weekly newspaper publisher among others - rejected an attempt to ensure that children learn why the U.S. was founded on the principle of religious freedom.

But the board agreed to strengthen nods to Christianity by adding references to “laws of nature and nature's God" to a section in U.S. history that requires students to explain major political ideas.

They agreed to strike the word “democratic" in references to the form of U.S. government, opting instead to call it a “constitutional republic."

In addition to learning the Bill of Rights, the board specified a reference to the Second Amendment right to bear arms in a section about citizenship in a U.S. government class and agreed to require economics students to “analyze the decline of the U.S. dollar including abandonment of the gold standard."

Conservatives beat back multiple attempts to include hip-hop as an example of a significant cultural movement.

They argued over how historic periods should be classified (still B.C. and A.D., rather than B.C.E. and C.E.); whether or not students should be required to explain the origins of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and its impact on global politics (they will); and whether former Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir should be required learning (she will).

Numerous attempts to add the names or references to important Hispanics throughout history also were denied, inducing one amendment that would specify that Tejanos died at the Alamo alongside Davy Crockett and Jim Bowie.

A day earlier, longtime board member Mary Helen Berlanga accused her colleagues of “whitewashing" the standards and walked out of the panel's meeting in frustration.

Berlanga also bristled when the board approved an amendment that deletes a requirement that sociology students “explain how institutional racism is evident in American society."


These people are not fit to serve on the Board of Education in Texas. If I were a citizen of that state, I would urge my representatives to handle this situation immediately.


 

max420thc

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whats a matter someone kicking your commie ideas out of TEXAS schools?If TEXAS leaves the union the USA will be done.
with Perry as governor it might happen. Screw these commies running washington
 

max420thc

Well-Known Member
you genius's bankrupted california with your stupid ideas now we have barbra boxer, fienstien waxman,it looks like the whole cast from the bar scene in star wars from cali in washington.
so much for the collective intelligence of cali.
 

Rob Roy

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One of the problems with public schools is the curriculum, whitewashing history and the very real potential for mass indoctrinatin. The 10th plank of the Communist manifesto? Implement public schools.
 

fitch303

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Yeah lets learn about hip hop and the people who wear their pants down their ass, don't speak proper english, refer to women as ho's and bitches, bragging about guns and killing niggas. No thanks.

Fuck these people who want to warp our history

"A government big enough to give you everything you want is strong enough to take everything you have" -Thomas Jefferson

They don't teach him in our public schools anymore. Not while the NEA is trying to groom "subjects" as opposed to citizens.
 

redivider

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whether or not you like it, mr. fitch, hip-hop music IS the most INFLUENTIAL genre on the airwaves today. the hip-hop we listen to today is not hip hop. it's club music. listen to some old school hip-hop and you'll see how it really voiced the issues and concerns of african americans in the late 80s, early 90s. i don't think Ice-T's "Cop Killer" is an admirable song, yet it does speak of the hate felt by minorities towards abusive police. IT IS A PART OF HISTORY, WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT.

and there were tejanos fighting alongside gringos at the alamo too, whether you like it or not.

and thomas jefferson was one of the founding fathers, whether he was christian or deist...

and all that stuff you know but you take for granted won't be taught in school anymore.

i'm an atheist, but i grew up in a christian house, i was taught since i was a kid about the bible and I know it. i didn't appreciate that until i met a teen who grew up atheist, didn't even know what the bible was.... i felt sorry for him because he wasn't as fortunate as me to have been taught about religion, and then when i grew up i made my choice, an informed choice... i took that knowledge for granted....

it's one thing to be taught about everything, and then to create a point of view. this is what we should be doing.

it is another to subject our kids to voluntary ignorance, and expect them to grow into more enlightened and knowledgeable people.

this type of playing around with what kids learn is hurting the US educational system, making american students dumber and dumber, and will contribute to the decline of the US state.
 
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PadawanBater

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whats a matter someone kicking your commie ideas out of TEXAS schools?If TEXAS leaves the union the USA will be done.
with Perry as governor it might happen. Screw these commies running washington
Dude, fuck Texas, I'll help it succeed from the union! The 75% of people currently breeding are only damaging the current system by introducing harmful genetic material into the gene pool with all the cousin lovin' goin' on... Clearly, otherwise how the fuck do you explain the stupidity of this board of indoctrination? The other 25%, the smart ones, will pick up and move their shit when Texas leaves.

Dictionary.com - look up the word "communist".

Thomas Jefferson was such a commie, what with his "separation of church and state"...
:wall:

Yeah lets learn about hip hop and the people who wear their pants down their ass, don't speak proper english, refer to women as ho's and bitches, bragging about guns and killing niggas. No thanks.

Fuck these people who want to warp our history

"A government big enough to give you everything you want is strong enough to take everything you have" -Thomas Jefferson

They don't teach him in our public schools anymore. Not while the NEA is trying to groom "subjects" as opposed to citizens.
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it never happened. Choosing what history our youth learns about is indoctrination. The objective of these asshats is to get their conservative bullshit into the kids minds, essentially BRAINWASH them so that in 10-15 years when someone brings up something important Jefferson said, the kids of the future with such educations will place lower emphasis on these people. Thomas Jefferson is arguably the most influential founding father, to replace the man with John Calvin is a slap in the face to honest education and honest educators alike.

whether or not you like it, mr. fitch, hip-hop music IS the most INFLUENTIAL genre on the airwaves today. the hip-hop we listen to today is not hip hop. it's club music. listen to some old school hip-hop and you'll see how it really voiced the issues and concerns of african americans in the late 80s, early 90s. i don't think Ice-T's "Cop Killer" is an admirable song, yet it does speak of the hate felt by minorities towards abusive police. IT IS A PART OF HISTORY, WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT. :clap:

and there were tejanos fighting alongside gringos at the alamo too, whether you like it or not.

and thomas jefferson was one of the founding fathers, whether he was christian or deist...

and all that stuff you know but you take for granted won't be taught in school anymore.

i'm an atheist, but i grew up in a christian house, i was taught since i was a kid about the bible and I know it. i didn't appreciate that until i met a teen who grew up atheist, didn't even know what the bible was.... i felt sorry for him because he wasn't as fortunate as me to have been taught about religion, and then when i grew up i made my choice, an informed choice... i took that knowledge for granted....

it's one thing to be taught about everything, and then to create a point of view. this is what we should be doing.

it is another to subject our kids to voluntary ignorance, and expect them to grow into more enlightened and knowledgeable people.

this type of playing around with what kids learn is hurting the US educational system, making american students dumber and dumber, and will contribute to the decline of the US state.
+rep
 

ViRedd

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But the board agreed to strengthen nods to Christianity by adding references to “laws of nature and nature's God" to a section in U.S. history that requires students to explain major political ideas.
A reference to God is not specifically "Christian." A nod to Christianity would include references to Jesus Christ.

The reason that its important to teach about God and the God of Nature in our schools, is because that is exactly where our basic human rights originate from. This is paramount to a free society. Government does not give rights. Government is instituted to protect God given rights. This is why Progressives have been so dead set on removing any references to God from our schools. They would have us believe that our rights come from government and not from a higher source.

First came The Creator.

The Creator made Man.

Man created the Constitution.

The Constitution formed our government.

The Government is made up of politicians and bureaucrats.

This means that the citizens have sway over government and government's employees, politicians and bureaucrats.

They are working for us, at our will ... not the other way around.

Can you see now why The Creator has to be part of the equasion in order to maintain liberty?
 

MexicanWarlord420

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A reference to God is not specifically "Christian." A nod to Christianity would include references to Jesus Christ.

The reason that its important to teach about God and the God of Nature in our schools, is because that is exactly where our basic human rights originate from. This is paramount to a free society. Government does not give rights. Government is instituted to protect God given rights. This is why Progressives have been so dead set on removing any references to God from our schools. They would have us believe that our rights come from government and not from a higher source.

First came The Creator.

The Creator made Man.

Man created the Constitution.

The Constitution formed our government.

The Government is made up of politicians and bureaucrats.

This means that the citizens have sway over government and government's employees, politicians and bureaucrats.

They are working for us, at our will ... not the other way around.

Can you see now why The Creator has to be part of the equasion in order to maintain liberty?
You're assuming there is a creator? Science says otherwise..

http://fora.tv/2009/10/07/Richard_Dawkins_The_Greatest_Show_on_Earth#Dawkins_Compares_Creationists_to_Holocaust_Deniers
 
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Keenly

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you guys ever wonder why they stopped calling it "history" and started calling it "social studies?"


because they are not teaching history, they are teaching kids what they want them to know


america = always the good guys

everyone else = conflict starters


teach the TRUTH not the lies
 
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PadawanBater

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A reference to God is not specifically "Christian." A nod to Christianity would include references to Jesus Christ.

Come on Vi, we both know they're alluding to Christianity. It's in Texas for Christ's sake... If you read the article it's clearly Christianity, not just God. That's the same thing proponents of intelligent design try to do, they say "it was just an intelligent designer...not the Christian God..." while in the background making claims to their congregations that it IS actually the Christian God...

Same tactic man.


The reason that its important to teach about God and the God of Nature in our schools, is because that is exactly where our basic human rights originate from. This is paramount to a free society. Government does not give rights. Government is instituted to protect God given rights.
https://www.rollitup.org/spirituality-sexuality-philosophy/307644-so-you-think-your-rights.html

This is why Progressives have been so dead set on removing any references to God from our schools. They would have us believe that our rights come from government and not from a higher source.
Not really sure what your definition of progressive is, but I'll tell you what roll I think God should play in our public schools.

When I was in high school, which was 01-05, we had 6 periods, consisting of about an hour each class. Science, Math, English, US History/World History (9th & 10th grade) Government/Economics (11th & 12th grade), PE, then an elective.

There's only one class God should ever be brought up in, that is the history class, as in references to history, how religion has helped shape our world. I think it's extremely important to emphasize the roll religion has played in human history, much more than we currently do in public schools.

But that's it, it doesn't belong in any of the other classes. Would you agree with that?

First came The Creator.

The Creator made Man.

Man created the Constitution.

The Constitution formed our government.

The Government is made up of politicians and bureaucrats.

This means that the citizens have sway over government and government's employees, politicians and bureaucrats.

They are working for us, at our will ... not the other way around.

Can you see now why The Creator has to be part of the equasion in order to maintain liberty?
To assume everyone believes the same thing is ignorant. This explanation might work for you in your mind, but a non believer would tell you it fails from the beginning, who created the creator?
 

londonfog

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Next Columbus day everyone can claim anything...so if you see a car you like or a house or anything ...just say "Columbus Day Discovery" ..."Now This Property Belongs To ME"......don't matter if someone is already there or in it ...its Columbus Day so its yours
 

ViRedd

New Member
The term "God," or "Creator," or "God of Nature," is NOT Christian. These terms fit all religions from Jewish to Muslim and all in between.

I am in possession of the Constitution and Bill of Rights for the old Soviet Union. The Soviet citizen had WAY more rights enumerated in their Constitution than we have in ours. The difference was, their rights came from the government, and as such, the government could take them away at will ... and they did. Our country was founded upon the principle that rights are God given. They are innate just because we are human. That's why they are called "Human Rights."

What comes to mind at this point is the "right" to health care. Health care is a good, and or, a service. Food is a good. Shelter is a good. There can be no innate right to goods and services. The only way to receive these so called "rights" is for government to violate the property rights of one citizen in order to give these "rights" to another citizen. How can theft, and receiving stolen property be deemed a "right"?

We have the Natural Rights to Life, Liberty and Property. The only legitimate function of government is to protect those rights ... and nothing more. When the government swerves from that premise, tyranny prevails.

The above has been conveniently white-washed from our history books. In order to regain and preserve liberty, this must be taught again in our schools. Texas has taken the first step, and whatever Texas textbooks contain, will also be contained in the textbooks in California and other states as well. About time!
 
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guitarabuser

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Come on Vi, we both know they're alluding to Christianity. It's in Texas for Christ's sake...
Oh shit, did I miss the start of Texas Bashing Day?
The reason that textbooks are influenced by Texas didn't start out about the size of the school system here. It was about the high standards that Texas USED TO HAVE in its schools. When a textbook was approved by the TEA is was an excellent learning tool.

But yes, we walk a different path here. Some ways its fucked up others not.

I remember when I lived in San Diego and that prick tweaker started mowing down school kids with an AK47. They had assault rifle bans within months.
By comparison, when that dumbshit started shooting Texans in a Luby's restaraunt, the state made sure that its citizens had the right to carry concealed weapons. I was proud of my home state when they did that.

Sorry to ramble off topic, but short and sweet: If your state wants to teach different material than Texas, go ahead. Make sure your educational boards pick up the slack and do what they have relied on Texas to do for them for the past 40 years.

BTW, I went to my kid's school the other day. The principle has a bible and a cross in her office. And I like it.
 

ViRedd

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Oh shit, did I miss the start of Texas Bashing Day?
The reason that textbooks are influenced by Texas didn't start out about the size of the school system here. It was about the high standards that Texas USED TO HAVE in its schools. When a textbook was approved by the TEA is was an excellent learning tool.

But yes, we walk a different path here. Some ways its fucked up others not.

I remember when I lived in San Diego and that prick tweaker started mowing down school kids with an AK47. They had assault rifle bans within months.
By comparison, when that dumbshit started shooting Texans in a Luby's restaraunt, the state made sure that its citizens had the right to carry concealed weapons. I was proud of my home state when they did that.

Sorry to ramble off topic, but short and sweet: If your state wants to teach different material than Texas, go ahead. Make sure your educational boards pick up the slack and do what they have relied on Texas to do for them for the past 40 years.

BTW, I went to my kid's school the other day. The principle has a bible and a cross in her office. And I like it.
^^^ Damn right!!! :)

As the oldest fart in the forum, I can speak with authority about the education system in California's past. I had a sixth grade teacher who taught us all we needed to know about the Constitution. When he got to the Second Amendment, he said: "The Second Amendment was put into place so that We The People can protect our rights to life, liberty and property from enemies both foreign and domestic." He went on to explain that: "Domestic enemies can be robbers, muggers and thieves. Also, a domestic enemy can be someone from your government. Here's how it works, kids ... if ever someone from your government knocks on your door and says they are there to take your liberty away ... you shoot them!" Needless to say, it left a lasting impression on me.

I think I'd be perfectly comfortable in Texas. :lol:

PS: guitarabuser ... Were you alluding to the guy who shot up the McDonalds in San Diego? If so, a friend of mine's sister was killed there. Sad to say, my friend never recovered from her sisters death and she eventually killed herself to get away from the pain. After her sister was killed, and right up to her own death, she never left the house without packing heat. She carried a little snubbie .38 in her purse at all times.
 

dukeofbaja

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Here's how it works, kids ... if ever someone from your government knocks on your door and says they are there to take your liberty away ... you shoot them!"

Why don't you go ask the Branch Davidians how that worked out for them....
 

ViRedd

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Here's how it works, kids ... if ever someone from your government knocks on your door and says they are there to take your liberty away ... you shoot them!"

Why don't you go ask the Branch Davidians how that worked out for them....
There are none left to ask. However, I would suggest that you go to your nearest BATF office and ask the same question of them. I suspect that they may reply that the message they got was "Don't fuck with Texans!" :lol:

BATF = Burn All Toddlers First.
 
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