That's fair enough I can see where your coming from but to other people around the world who can't get top quality clones locally this could be the best place to get seeds. I don't think the prices are outrageous but definately a little steep. The biggest thing is trust can you trust him and I think the obvious answer is yes. Your getting the real deal and to some people including myself I am willing to spend that kind of money even more on seeds if I can know with some certainty that the product is going to be of high caliber. Look at places like bcseeds who make outrageous claims and can't back it up while the doc can deliver on his claims. Also DJ short and to some extent sensi seeds all have loyal customers who are willing to spend it on seeds. Plus one clone can produce an unlimited amount of ganga so it's not like your money can't be stretched or your forced to buy beans every harvest or something.I have grown the Doc's cindy and can say that its the real deal bros grimm line. AAA+ smoke, no doubt.That being said, I DO think they are ridiculously overpriced. I don't care how unique you think a strain is, NO STRAIN is worth the price he is asking. None. For that reason, I dont buy them. To me, its as bad as the people selling $60 dollar 8ths. Sure, its awesome smoke, but its still overpriced. Gouging people aint cool, regardless. Especially when its peoples medicine. Plus, in Cali, elite cuts are all over the friggin place.
As for the doc giving away free beans...It shows that they are looking for free advertising. Believe me, seed companies giving away free seeds is not unheard of. Subcool has given away THOUSANDS of seeds. As have Sannie, Cali connection, Highgrade, esko, the list goes on and on. Thats what makes them so freakin awesome.
I love the genetics, and will grow them again but not until they become a little more reasonable on pricing.
Until then, Sannie, TGA, DNA, HighGrade, Cali, etc will get my business (and space in my grow log)
My .02
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I have grown a lot of docs gear and have never had a bad experience. I have paid way more for seeds and gotten way less thats for sure. There is nothing more expensive than growing for 4 months and ending up with something that doesn't make you happy. Everything I got from them was as advertised and for me worth every pennyhave any of you guys ever done any breeding? it's no simple task. it takes hundreds of hours and is very time consuming. anyone can make beans. but to do it correctly and make things uniform is a lot of work. you don't just pollenate a female with some pollen and harvest thousands of beans to sell. if you don't like the prices, grow some bag seed bunk.
You think thats funny huh. Thats funny when a reputable breeder from cali with d n a wrote and admitted that the docs s 1s are for real and I know that he has those true genetics because I have grown them out with better results than you im sure could imagine.So if you dont believe just spend the money and see till then you are the one thats funny lol lol lol lollol thats hillarious.
I have grown the Doc's cindy and can say that its the real deal bros grimm line. AAA+ smoke, no doubt.That being said, I DO think they are ridiculously overpriced. I don't care how unique you think a strain is, NO STRAIN is worth the price he is asking. None. For that reason, I dont buy them. To me, its as bad as the people selling $60 dollar 8ths. Sure, its awesome smoke, but its still overpriced. Gouging people aint cool, regardless. Especially when its peoples medicine. Plus, in Cali, elite cuts are all over the friggin place.
As for the doc giving away free beans...It shows that they are looking for free advertising. Believe me, seed companies giving away free seeds is not unheard of. Subcool has given away THOUSANDS of seeds. As have Sannie, Cali connection, Highgrade, esko, the list goes on and on. Thats what makes them so freakin awesome.
I love the genetics, and will grow them again but not until they become a little more reasonable on pricing.
Until then, Sannie, TGA, DNA, HighGrade, Cali, etc will get my business (and space in my grow log)
and those are supposed to be cheaper d n a is great but high but you can get elites anywhere why the hell are you buying beans for.YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR and you should get some real elite cuttings and you wont have to buy those cheap cali beans lol lol
You sound like a smart grower.His shipping is great thats why he is in the top 3 banks worldwide. And yes more for us have you tried the iranian g13 it is super potent and finishes outdoors by sept 1 and yeilds 4 to 8 ounces a piece. i HAVENT SEEN ANY BETTER BREEDER AND I HAVE TRIED GREENHOUSE D N A PARADISE ALL THOSE MILLION DOLLAR COMPANYS AND i get better results from the doc.HE GETS MY VOTEstay tuned ... im doing a full grow journal on his strain now... and i would love to know how many other breeders have ever offered free beans on this site for test grows? that alone speaks volumes about dr greenthumb to me..
there are a ton of breeders that i have never seen a grow journal on here from, does that make them not legit? hells to the no.. it just means that most people here about a couple of strains and don't stray far from those popular strains at the time. how many grows from flying dutchmen or kiwi seeds have you ever seen on here? not many is my guess, but these breeders, along with dr greenthumb have been in the game way too long not to be legit.. and although i've never seen a grow journal on any of the dr's strains, i have surely seen some amazing pix of finished plants on this site.. and he even has a readers supplied pix section on his site that also has a ton of pix supplied by other people orher than himself..
im glad you don't trust the dr,, leaves more for me... you can stick with green house seeds or whoever it is that you like..
and those are supposed to be cheaper d n a is great but high but you can get elites anywhere why the hell are you buying beans for.YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR and you should get some real elite cuttings and you wont have to buy those cheap cali beans lol lolI have grown the Doc's cindy and can say that its the real deal bros grimm line. AAA+ smoke, no doubt.That being said, I DO think they are ridiculously overpriced. I don't care how unique you think a strain is, NO STRAIN is worth the price he is asking. None. For that reason, I dont buy them. To me, its as bad as the people selling $60 dollar 8ths. Sure, its awesome smoke, but its still overpriced. Gouging people aint cool, regardless. Especially when its peoples medicine. Plus, in Cali, elite cuts are all over the friggin place.
As for the doc giving away free beans...It shows that they are looking for free advertising. Believe me, seed companies giving away free seeds is not unheard of. Subcool has given away THOUSANDS of seeds. As have Sannie, Cali connection, Highgrade, esko, the list goes on and on. Thats what makes them so freakin awesome.
I love the genetics, and will grow them again but not until they become a little more reasonable on pricing.
Until then, Sannie, TGA, DNA, HighGrade, Cali, etc will get my business (and space in my grow log)
You think thats funny huh. Thats funny when a reputable breeder from cali with d n a wrote and admitted that the docs s 1s are for real and I know that he has those true genetics because I have grown them out with better results than you im sure could imagine.So if you dont believe just spend the money and see till then you are the one thats funny lol lol lol lol
well said punk.. i was even gonna mention cali connection in my earlier post as i paid two hundred bucks for a pack of their sour og and another one fifty for a pack of the larry og, and i thought it was a great deal.. i don't get bitching about prices unless its really outrageious like some of the bcseheds gear or maybe even the doggies nuts.. but to me, two hundred is not over priced, and like you said, by what i will harvest off of those ten seeds, i will more than make my money back ten fold..ooh and btw if money is tight go with nirvana or mandala seeds.they are not Dr Grenthumb or Cali Connection quality but are lower priced
i even just recieved on monday some test beans that the dr had put up and offer on here for.. he was looking for some test growers for his new strain called dope.. its a x with his chumaluma x endless sky, and he said its been 8 years in the making.. they aren't up for sale on the site as of yet, but i have a journal started on them and i know pipe dream is also starting a journal on them as well as another member on here..
the good dr has some really nice strains for sale on his site that you can't get anywhere else in seed form yet, and he even has a few of the elite strains on sale right now.. check em out when you get a chance..
thanks mind, you know you will be probably about the second person to know how they are doing, lmao.. glad you like..Fucking A racer good job bro.....
Keep me posted on how they are doing...
thanks mind, you know you will be probably about the second person to know how they are doing, lmao.. glad you like..
i have to admit i was pretty stoked to get these from the dr, and hope i do a good job for him...
thanks for the interest mind... as always, apreciate your help and comments..I am sure you will my friend....
Will sub the journal for sure...