should i flower?

[mike26b]

true but the thing is i wouldnt be able to use a mh because it would get to hot in my grow space?? i cant grow anywhere else and its a stealth grow so i guess my buds will suffer im planning on going through with the cfls just adding a few more i already have..i just want to successful grow the buds before i start shelling out money on a mh..i kknow your probly a lil angry but its only to hold me over until winters over then i will be back to outdoors and ill be buying hps and mh for next fall after my outdoor harvest..ill amke sure to post pics you can see how it comes out..

 

[Tanuvan]

If you are going through with the cfl grow, I'd probably LST them in order to get the best use of light. You want them growing more horizontally than vertically because of the limited cfl light penetration.

Good luck

 

[munch box]

for a locker room grow you would need the agro high-yield 150w hps grow light which costs less than $100 dollars. go to htgsupply.com. It is inline air coolable so you don't need to worry about heat being an issue. 150w is not going to give off a lot of heat anway. 16,000 lumens! Way better results. and it only measures 10"x14".Have you seen my grow cabinet? click the link below I am using a lot of watts in a small 42 cubic feet space.Less than 3' x 4' x 4'. with NO heat issues

 

[-dank-]

true but the thing is i wouldnt be able to use a mh because it would get to hot in my grow space?? i cant grow anywhere else and its a stealth grow so i guess my buds will suffer im planning on going through with the cfls just adding a few more i already have..i just want to successful grow the buds before i start shelling out money on a mh..i kknow your probly a lil angry but its only to hold me over until winters over then i will be back to outdoors and ill be buying hps and mh for next fall after my outdoor harvest..ill amke sure to post pics you can see how it comes out..

welll.... thats your choice.....good luck.... but you know... just for shits sake... what about getting a 150watter mh.. then taking it, puting it in bake round tube (there pyrex tubes search them on ebay...) you put the pulb in the bake round and make your self a cheap, little vented mh setup.... i bet it could coast you all in all less then 100bux.. your gona get your moneys worth out of the time and energy... just remember watts = grams.... you could get a cheap... hps even... like you know thows street lights at home depo.... there hps.... you can also look on ebay... you just need a small hps ballast... hell you can get a kit to build your own ballast for cheap.... or if you got some balls you can order one from PropertyRoom Auctions Online or have one of your buddies do it for you... if your chicken shit like that..

 

[munch box]

You spent 5 grand on a huge PVC pipe system hooked up to a garden hose? No i think your the fucking tard, and by the way your plants look like shit. I could grow better weed in a trash can

 

[munch box]

Get an HPS. thats whats used for flowering. thats when you need the power. use the CFLs for vegging so you save electricity, and no need for a MH. In other words don't listen to DANK, cuz he doesn't know what the fuck hes talking about

 

[mvg26]

yo mike for now just get a bunch of cfl's(2700K for flowering) and throw them in your space put some above some at middle plant height and some at low height. I have 8 cfl's in a 2 foot cardboard box with about 150 watts and im gonna harvest around 1 oz in a week(flowering took about 12 weeks though) if you want to go stealth just do it, dank and munch box have good advice but if thats not what you want to do right now dont, i will be upgrading to a MH and HPS on my next grow but you can do it with cfl's even if these two guys say you cant!!! and oh yea DANk and MUNCH this pic is for you guys, you clowns!!! hahaha

 

[-dank-]

you can get one on property room for 30bux including shipping

 

[-dank-]

Get an HPS. thats whats used for flowering. thats when you need the power. use the CFLs for vegging so you save electricity, and no need for a MH. In other words don't listen to DANK, cuz he doesn't know what the fuck hes talking about

dude.. i have a t5 i use for veg... in the early stages... sure florals cfl's are great for the begging veg.. but if you want the power to have your plants explode you need a bigger light... i'm talking about growth... for what your doing clf's would work fine.. but if i had the choice of flowering under a mh or a clf.. i would take the mh any day...

you know what... i bet i could blow your whole operation away with my t5 alone i mean really munch... anyone reading my posts can tell i'm a very experienced grower... you just have little toys... this ins't even worth my time....


ohh btw i veg my plants about 5 weeks there 1 and 1/2 feet tall and take up 4 sq feet... by the time there done flowering there 3 - 4 feet tall and take up 9+ sqfeet, see i learned how to grow weed on overgrow... back in the day... on a site that had a real knowlage base... you can go over to International Cannagraphic and check there forms for information... you will understand what i;m talking about then... sorry if your not that advanced munch have a nice day..

 

[-dank-]

yo mike for now just get a bunch of cfl's(2700K for flowering) and throw them in your space put some above some at middle plant height and some at low height. I have 8 cfl's in a 2 foot cardboard box with about 150 watts and im gonna harvest around 1 oz in a week(flowering took about 12 weeks though) if you want to go stealth just do it, dank and munch box have good advice but if thats not what you want to do right now dont, i will be upgrading to a MH and HPS on my next grow but you can do it with cfl's even if these two guys say you cant!!! and oh yea DANk and MUNCH this pic is for you guys, you clowns!!! hahaha

i agree compleatly that you CAN, but what were thoes watts again... ok there were 6 bulbs lets say they were all 25 watts each... thats 150 watts...of non penetrating light... ok sooooo whats that going to yeild... like a 1/2 ounce... maybe an ounce.... when with the same exact plant... you could just use a better light and get 3 or 4oz....

i'm not saying you can't flower with clf's... i just personaly don't see tthe point... i smoke a 1/2 oz a week on avrage.. to my head... if i spent over 3 months to grow an ounce.. i'd be out of weed in 2 weeks... after all that work.... if you don't smoke that much... its all good... who knows maybe from cfl's you could get 2oz, but i know you would get at least 3oz from a 150 wat hps... i'm doing a comparison of the diffrnet lights... see the plant is about what 1 foot tall, and its going to stretch to lets say 2 and a 1/2 feet tall... i just don't see the clf's penatrating the canapee... but thats just me.... i was tought the old school way... before cfls were out... to me... there only good for veg... early veg at that... i like fast fast growth... but hey... i'm just showing the diffrances... if nothing else in the future this info may come in handy... never know... at least i said my peace

 

[giantmo]

bloody cfl and led freaks

 

[Lacy]

Dank the light dude. Thats great info dank.
I'm just researching this all now as well. I'm not sure whether to get 2 400 watt lights or an 800 watt ligth with a light mover.
There are so many choices out there available now.

ok, not to just be an asshole and make fun of you.... this is whats up.... if you have a plant, in veg and you veg it to lets say 1ft tall.... once you put it in flower its gona stretch.... to 2 to 3 feet tall... now if you just have some cheap clf's your not gona do shit... reson being... the light from the clf only penatrates a couple inches.... meaning if you have a plant that is more then 6 inches away from your clf its not geetting the light it needs.... the lumes go so far then die out... like a 1000watt hps can penatrate a canapee about 3ft... after that the light is pretty much useless... same thing with a 600watter... maybe it dons't penatrate as much.. like 2 and a 1/2 feet till you start getting light degradation... now if your just using hows lil clf's your not going to get shit..... your plant sounds to be big enough to give you a yeild from what you saying... but you have to remember this... wattage times sq foot = yeild...

on avrage you will get 0.7 grams per watt of HPS light you use to flower...


sooo if you have a 1000 watter you would get about 700 grams.. thats a little over a pound and a 1/2 considering you know what your doing.. now you can get more or you can get less that depends on your setup weather you have co2... what boosters you use.... on avrage if your a new grower using a 400watt hps light in a closit space 4ft x 2ft thats 1/2 a meeter you will get about 6 to 10 oz... ... i just relaised i forgot to tell you about the space part of the watts equation... your light will only cover soo much area... like a 1000watter will cover a 4x4 area.. a 600watter a 3x3 area.... so you do watts by squair foot. like my area is 10x7 that gives me 70sq foot... i have it plants wall to wallll... i also have 6 600watt hps... so thats a total of 3600watts now devide that by 70 cuz thats how many sq foot i have... it comes out to being around 51 watts per sq foot.... i expect to yeild around a pound per light... so thats 6lbs total... wich is 448 x 6 = 2688 grams... devided by 3600watts that gives me 0.74 grams per watt... now you see what i am talking about... i have a 7x10 area... covered by 6 600's at 51qwatts per sqfoot and i'm expecting a yeild of 0.74 grams per sqfoot which works out to 1lb per 600 watt hps lamp...

hope this clears up some things for you...

my best advice is get a real light.... if you want real pot you need real light hats all i have to say

 

[Lacy]

I just got a sun system 100 watt with reflector and timer and bulb with 4 bottles of dnf for $50. I figured it would be good for my seedlings but now I want to get a good light.

I saw a really good one that used both MH and hps either together or separately and also had a built in fan and and all.
But then I could get a separate one for flowering and one for vegging. I'm not sure what to do yet. I think 2 separate rooms would be better but I am not sure if I can pull that off yet.

 

[mike26b]

ok..guys i deff will be looking for a 150hps or mh now that heeat wont be an issue..but for the meantime ill veg for an extra week...then start flowering with cfls.then hopefully by the time i order the 150watt and it gets here i will be in flower for about a week an a half....but for the meantime..the way i will make my cfls penatrate the plant is by not only putting them directly over the plant but mounting them side ways under the canapy.. 2 cfls on one side 2 on the other and 2 on top.plus im lsting a little..soo thanks guys for all the info maybe ill pick up a light off that site or on ebay

 

[fdd2blk]

dude.. i have a t5 i use for veg... in the early stages... sure florals cfl's are great for the begging veg.. but if you want the power to have your plants explode you need a bigger light... i'm talking about growth... for what your doing clf's would work fine.. but if i had the choice of flowering under a mh or a clf.. i would take the mh any day...

you know what... i bet i could blow your whole operation away with my t5 alone i mean really munch... anyone reading my posts can tell i'm a very experienced grower... you just have little toys... this ins't even worth my time....


ohh btw i veg my plants about 5 weeks there 1 and 1/2 feet tall and take up 4 sq feet... by the time there done flowering there 3 - 4 feet tall and take up 9+ sqfeet, see i learned how to grow weed on overgrow... back in the day... on a site that had a real knowlage base... you can go over to International Cannagraphic and check there forms for information... you will understand what i;m talking about then... sorry if your not that advanced munch have a nice day..

consider yourself warned......https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/37918-moderator-steps.html

 

[-dank-]

I just got a sun system 100 watt with reflector and timer and bulb with 4 bottles of dnf for $50. I figured it would be good for my seedlings but now I want to get a good light.

I saw a really good one that used both MH and hps either together or separately and also had a built in fan and and all.
But then I could get a separate one for flowering and one for vegging. I'm not sure what to do yet. I think 2 separate rooms would be better but I am not sure if I can pull that off yet.

yoooo... thats the way to go... 2 ceperate areas is easyer.... then you have your moms and your vegged clones in one area.. then you have your other stuff in the flower room.... you can put stuff in at diffrent times then, so you can have like a harvest every week or 2.... week 1 put plant 1 in... week 2 put plant 2 in... week 3 put plant 3 in and so on and so forth.... you may have a little more to keep strait... but that way you have like an oz a week to smoke.... not bad if you ask me... plus its lesss work in the long run... i have a freind she is setting her stuff up this way.... personaly i would, but my system is a little big... i just do a couple grows a year to keep mine and my freinds head stash up....

i reallly think having 2 ceperate areas give you the most options.......

and that way you can keep a mother plant going.. like get some reallly dank seeeds get that awsome mother going, then clone it.... vegg them for a litle bit, then move to flower...... switchable ballasts are nice, if you have finachal concerns... they will save you a couple bucks... but if you just have a small setup... you can veg under florals if nesscary, then move into a hps style flower room.... remember this... it taks about 1/2 of the watts your gona use for flower.. to veg your plant... so if your only using a 400water for flower... realisticly you could veg under a 100watt mh... or with a bunch of clf's/// its gona move faster, if you have more light... but toooo much light is bad... realisticly if you give a plant more light then it needs it will stunt it... found this out on my first grow... 125plants in solo cups under a 1000 watt mh... right off them... the light littterly powered them down.... so.... about a 1/4 of the watts your gona use for flower in the veg area... i know people who use MH 400 and hps 400 for flower and veg... but if your doing something like that.... you have a switchable... keep it off the tops... too much light = bad.... anyway... just putting some thoughts out there.. still waiting for FDD to ban me....

 

[-dank-]

I just got a sun system 100 watt with reflector and timer and bulb with 4 bottles of dnf for $50. I figured it would be good for my seedlings but now I want to get a good light.

I saw a really good one that used both MH and hps either together or separately and also had a built in fan and and all.
But then I could get a separate one for flowering and one for vegging. I'm not sure what to do yet. I think 2 separate rooms would be better but I am not sure if I can pull that off yet.

ohhh btw... i'm not sure what dnf is... but for 50bux how could you go wrong.... if the 100 watt is a mh... i would use it with some clf's... i have a t5 for vegging.. in the begging.. if i just had a 400 watter... i would just use the t5 for veg then keep popin plants into my room... thats just me tho..... the reason i went off so hard on this kid about clf's and growth... if your gona grow your plant big... its more adventagous to use a bigger light...... he was vegging for what 5 weeks, and is gona veg for another week now.... all the groth that was accomplished over his 6 weeks of veg, could have been accomplished in 2 or 3 weeks givin the right conditions... its alll about the math.... the math always works out..... i have aproximitly 13 watts of MH per sq foot in my veg area... and i use about 51 watts per sq foot for my flowering.... now when plants are just stating out..... i keep them under a 400watt t5 9welll really its like 336 watts... i beleave its 42 watts per bulb and there are 8 of them in my unit..... the plants only grow soo fast under them tho.... once i get them in the hydro system... under the mh... they blow up.... they blow up fast.... its all about the enviroment... i've said it once i'll say it again... its alll about the math....

 

[-dank-]

if you workn out your enviroment and you work out your math, your all set... thats what determans yeild

 

[skunkushybrid]

[-dank-:QUOTE]this place is where all the lemings go... its the first place that comes up in google the other sites don't want the trafffic this place gets...[/quote]

Lemmings has two 'M's. I was taught how to spell the old school way... over at primary school.

You give some good advice, and you obviously have a certain level of skill at growing. Which makes you very welcome here. Unfortunately, your attitude will need to change. You may be able to use proxy's but they will soon run out and likewise, no doubt, so will your inclination to find more.

Just because you know more than a guy that is just starting out does not give you the right to insult him. What is obvious to you may not be to them.

Now, let's just play nice.

 

[mike26b]

i totally agree with u dank..everything that i accomplished in 6 weeks easily could have been done with a mh in 3 weeks..but i worked with what i had...beggers cant be choosers and some pot is better than no pot.its a ghetto rigged setup..but hey if it works it works.yes i need to upgrade but i honestly never though i would make it this far.as this is my first grow and im a noob im pretty proud to make it this far..i give u props for doing what you do man..hopefully all goes will with mine i have about 7 other babies that are about 3in tall..hopefully after im done flowering this one i can start flowering the others..and thats when im gunna buy that hps...i will eventually upgrade but i dont have the funds to right now or the space....thats for all the advice guys..plant is about 11 inches now and i will have pics up for sure tommrrow..