What do you guys think of the new Anti-Immigrant Law SB 1070 in Arizona?

[honkeytown]

i got to schedule it, but i have a busy life and another business down in Panama, so i had to get it done stat. I did a cold night there back when i was 22 I hear ya bro

 

[Babs34]

no, just asking what differences you would see the next day that tipped you off. like going to the store and seeing produce costs a bit more, shit like that. good or bad, what would tip you off had a mass deportation happened in your sleep and no one told you? thanks for your contribution as well

It "did" happen.......and while we were "sleeping." I fail to see you making a point, or even an attempt at one.
How about not being able to afford produce AT ALL?
Had a mass deportation taken place, it would affect us ALL......I'd like to think we'd all be intelligent enough to ascertain as to WHY it happened.--had we not been informed, that is.

 

[Babs34]

i'm too new to give you pos rep or neg rep. it is probably blue rep. i would've send a pm but it is easier and you deserved some rep for responding to my question. tent city is nothing. you can get tailors or rollies, plus any other drug of choice. dinner included meat, vegetales, and donut holes. you can get work release if you are there for 2 weeks or more. i am fully aware of the dui laws in az and the entire west for that matter, so there are states where i do not get behind the wheel if there is even a chance of blowing .001, deal with it.

?????????USING FALSE SS#'s benefits WHOM???????????????????
Are you serious?

now, about your indisputable statistics....the burden of proof is on you. i am not going to spend my days tracking down 40 separate statistics from 87 websites. you state they are true, so prove it. until then, i am just as true in asserting whatever i want whether it is based in fact or not. cite your numbers, show me they are not fake. until then, they might as well be since i dont randomly believe stuff i hear on the internet (not a good practice, fyi)

now as far as illegals having false ss #'s and paying into the system without receiving nything back, it is true because i witnessed it happening. i saw dozens of workers doing this. there are statistics on this that you won't find on your 'immigration websites', which seem to have biased your view a bit

sorry you're so bitter about your decision to drink 2 beers and drive home in a zero tolerance state. were you aware that the same lawyers promising to aggresively defend you against your dui are the same ones who lobby the state successfully for stiffer and stiffer dui laws? yet another fucked up aspect of that hideous cesspool of a state

FALSIFILED Social Security numbers benefit WHO????????????????????

 

[UncleBuck]

It "did" happen.......and while we were "sleeping." I fail to see you making a point, or even an attempt at one.
How about not being able to afford produce AT ALL?
Had a mass deportation taken place, it would affect us ALL......I'd like to think we'd all be intelligent enough to ascertain as to WHY it happened.--had we not been informed, that is.

it is a thought experiment, you are clearly missing the point. it is used extensively in SFBT therapy (look it up) but I thought i'd introduce here just for kicks. thanks for shitting on the concept. i was quite interested in what you'd have to say based on your vocal ranting previously in the thread. perhaps you think more concrete, so maybe you have an opinion on the OP, ie SB 1070?

 

[SHOSHON3N8TV]

All illegals should be deported, no questions asked.

ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION is not a new problem...Natives Americans use to call it WHITE PEOPLE.

 

[UncleBuck]

FALSIFILED Social Security numbers benefit WHO????????????????????

1) the employer who gets a min wage worker who workss harder than their colleagues being paid more
2) the hard working illegal who would rather forgo the ridiculous immigration laws than see his family perish
3) the senior living out their golden years on ss that the illegal pays into but can not benefit from
4) uncle sam, for the same reason as the senior in the aforementioned scenario

 

[sarah22]

ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION is not a new problem...Natives Americans use to call it WHITE PEOPLE.

YES!!! there you all go. now everyone knows a little of how the Natives felt when the "white people" took their land from them. well...you know what they say right? what goes around comes around

 

[UncleBuck]

When I first enrolled my son in kindergarten, I observed that in his classroom, MOST EVERYTHING was covered with spanish words on the wall, and a mat that covered the ENTIRE FLOOR with uno,dos, tres, quatro, cinco, seis, siete, ocho, nueve, diez. ENOUGH!!! Let's try ENGLISH. This is STILL America, is it not?

this is what i found most interesting in your rants. like it or don't, but hispanics will soon make us whites the minority in america with most being legal. why would you be upset that your children are getting relevant education?

this IS still america, the great melting pot. we allow immigrants in and have no parties that mirror the BNP. get used to the fact that YOU will soon be a minority (assuming you're white).

 

[robert 14617]

they came in with guns blazing , they didn't sneak under a fence

 

[SHOSHON3N8TV]

they came in with guns blazing , they didn't sneak under a fence

Actually "they" came in with diseases flying...smallpox wiped out millions, apparently you are a product of public schools american history classes.

 

[SocataSmoker]

YES!!! there you all go. now everyone knows a little of how the Natives felt when the "white people" took their land from them. well...you know what they say right? what goes around comes around

If you're comparing illegal immigrants to the "white invaders" you're an idiot! Things were A LOT different back then, obviously.

Actually "they" came in with diseases flying...smallpox wiped out millions, apparently you are a product of public schools american history classes.

Well ya know man, I am terribly sorry for what my ancestors did to ya... but this thread isn't about that, if you want to make a Native American Illegal Immigrant thread, then please be my guest... this thread is about the CURRENT problem of illegal immigrants.

We focus on the future, not the past.

However, I will say this... if you Natives can get rid of the alcohol that is plaguing your kind, then please by all means run for office and I will support you. I wish we could give all this land back to the Natives, but not with how they are in their current state.

 

[SHOSHON3N8TV]

LOL talk about stereotyping...fuck off.

 

[SocataSmoker]

Go back to watching Forest Gump...you dont know shit.

Excuse me? I'd be willing to bet I know just as much as you about the Native cultures, even your own... the Shoshone, my boss has land in Wyoming and a lot of your kind are there, I loved talking to them.

Chief Seattle's speech, one of the most touching speeches in the history of the world... I know many of these things, however I also know many other things, things which you seem to close out and not accept, and that has been the death of your kind.

LOL talk about stereotyping...fuck off.

Gotcha before the edit... and no it's not stereotyping... you know as well as I do, especially if you live on a rez, how it goes... it is not stereotyping when it is the truth.

 

[SHOSHON3N8TV]

Death of my kind? There are plenty of full bloods left...what rock have you been living under? Better go back and edit your post, again.

 

[SocataSmoker]

Death of my kind? There are plenty of full bloods left...what rock have you been living under? Better go back and edit your post, again.

Not literal death... the DEATH of your culture, your history... YOUR WAYS...

Even the words YOU speak show of this, with your tongue, do you really call yourself a true Shoshone?

This is getting off topic, please send me a PM if you wish to continue this conversation, I love talking about the REAL Natives of North America.

 

[SHOSHON3N8TV]

Kinda off topic, will PM ya...keep it REAL!

 

[AnthonyAlmighty]

this is the lamest come back you mex use, please ,16 september mean anything , give mexico back to the spanish who you stole it from and we'll talk about ca, az,and nm , texas stays

Damn skippy!

 

[sarah22]

If you're comparing illegal immigrants to the "white invaders" you're an idiot! Things were A LOT different back then, obviously.

i apologize. you're absolutely right. back then the "white people" (i use quotes because i dont like how racist it sounds when i say that, although its factually accurate) took over the land they KILLED the Natives. these people are just living amongst you. i can see how thats so much worse. i understand now.

 

[Babs34]

it is a thought experiment, you are clearly missing the point. it is used extensively in SFBT therapy (look it up) but I thought i'd introduce here just for kicks. thanks for shitting on the concept. i was quite interested in what you'd have to say based on your vocal ranting previously in the thread. perhaps you think more concrete, so maybe you have an opinion on the OP, ie SB 1070?

......yw for shitting on the concept of your introduced "thought therapy"
I had a "vocal" ranting, eh?

 

[Babs34]

1) the employer who gets a min wage worker who workss harder than their colleagues being paid more
2) the hard working illegal who would rather forgo the ridiculous immigration laws than see his family perish
3) the senior living out their golden years on ss that the illegal pays into but can not benefit from
4) uncle sam, for the same reason as the senior in the aforementioned scenario

R I D I C U L O U S

1) The employer who gets the minimum wage worker is just as, if not MORE guilty than the ILLEGAL immigrant. And again, "you say" they work harder. That's a lie.
2) The "hard working illegal" who would much prefer to see the NATIVE and "their" family PERISH.
3) At the rate this country is and has been going, the NATIVE is NOT going to be reaping the benefits of social security.
4) Uncle Sam is STILL paying for their medical bills, food, along with all other "burdens" you deem THEIR RIGHT.

........now tell me, just WHERE did this FALSE SS# come from? I'm sure you will tell me they too are innocent in how that was obtained?