Royal Temple Balls

[Don Gin and Ton]

so ive got my opium beans ready to germ and get going

ive read up and it seems temple balls are just hand rolled hash Royal temple balls are hash mix with opium. rarer than hens teeth apparently..

so I'm wondering if any old heads had an idea what sort of ratio i should be looking to hit!? im prepared to trial and error it but knowing the ratio would be good, i dont want to put too high amount of opium in to hash for obvious reasons.

also if anyone can give me some idea of the strains local to the nepali region haha what a question i reckon probably thick heavy indicas but am just basing this off the few sites ive looked at.

of course anyone with experience of making them id love a step by step!?!

i was basically going to use my bubble bags press out the hash to near dry then shred both the opium/ trichs and roll it into a ball.

anyone with info suggestions?

bom shanka!

 

[shepj]

from what I know, Temple Balls are a form of hash from Nepal (generally charas if I am correct) balled up. I have never heard of opium being present.

 

[theexpress]

so ive got my opium beans ready to germ and get going

ive read up and it seems temple balls are just hand rolled hash Royal temple balls are hash mix with opium. rarer than hens teeth apparently..

so I'm wondering if any old heads had an idea what sort of ratio i should be looking to hit!? im prepared to trial and error it but knowing the ratio would be good, i dont want to put too high amount of opium in to hash for obvious reasons.

also if anyone can give me some idea of the strains local to the nepali region haha what a question i reckon probably thick heavy indicas but am just basing this off the few sites ive looked at.

of course anyone with experience of making them id love a step by step!?!

i was basically going to use my bubble bags press out the hash to near dry then shred both the opium/ trichs and roll it into a ball.

anyone with info suggestions?

bom shanka!

temple balls are hand rubbed charas!!! supposed to be very very dank.. and i doubt there is any opium in it

 

[Don Gin and Ton]

hmm oh well. ive only really read whispers on the net of it.

im going to give it a go anyway. ill post in here down the line..

thanks for the input guys!

 

[morfin56]

the ideaof a hash opium ball is cool none the less though man, that would be the king of balls! ha. enjoy your kingly balls! post pics if you can thats intresting.
if you smoked it like you would regular hash would the opium still take effect?

 

[Hydro Hippy]

the ideaof a hash opium ball is cool none the less though man, that would be the king of balls! ha. enjoy your kingly balls! post pics if you can thats intresting.
if you smoked it like you would regular hash would the opium still take effect?

hmmm. They are both edible.. im sure you could do a number of things to consume them together.

 

[Dr.Nick]

Hmm... I've heard that too, about there being an opium/hash mix out there. Seems to be a local thing and not exported much (if at all). I haven't ever seen a recipe for it, but I'd assume it's mostly based on preference. The dosage for smoked opium is pretty small so you'd want a pretty high hash to O ratio, unless you want to end up unconcious on the floor. Which, if you're mixing hash and opium into one smokeable ball, might happen anyway. If I were making it, I'd probably use either powdered opium, or a known amount of opium in the strongest possible tincture. From there, I'd add it to a measured amount of kief or finely broken up hash (the fresher the better) and knead it together for ten minutes or so. It would then need to age for a few weeks in order to make sure that all the ethanol or iso had evaporated (only if using tinctured O). It can take a long time to to get solvents out of a mix like that, especially if it has a high mass to surface area ratio, like a sphere. It could probably be used sooner, but might be pretty harsh. Royal temple balls sound interesting, but personally I don't like to mix my herb with O. Opium is special, and deserves to be enjoyed on its own, IMO.

 

[whietiger88101]

I have tried speed balls before O mixed with cocaine i took two hits huge hits and i thought i was a heavy cannabis smoker that shit had me passed out in less then 10 mins no joke my friends put me in a cold shower and i didint wake up so they pulled me out and slaped me and made me drink coffee. Warning if you do try Temple balls i say pleae use 90 to 95 percent hash to 10 to 5 % O so 1 gram if hash mixed with .02 grams of O its about looking like a drop of honey .

 

[Swag]

Maybe your thinking of thai stick, bud,soaked in hash oil, and sprinkled with opium

 

[Dr.Nick]

Sigfried (or is it Roy?),

A speedball is heroin and coke. Definately not opium and coke, much less opium and hash. Heroin is a completely different animal than opium. The pharmacokinetics of the two different combinations are not even remotely similar. Also, speedballs are injected; these would be smoked (I assume) or eaten.

Likewise, Thai stick was originally just a really potent strain from SE asia comonly available during the Viet Nam era and shortly thereafter. Most of the authentic Thai was consumed in country or on R&R in Bangkok, but some (only a tiny fraction compared to what was coming in from Central and South America) did find its way stateside. However, what is (and most of what was) sold as Thai stick (the honey oil soaked varity) in the U.S. is an attempt to recreate the potency of the now uneconomical to smuggle, but legendary, Thai Stick. Although, I think the practice did originate in SE Asia in order to make poor quality weed marketable to American GIs. We just copied the technique.

Dr.Nick

 

[Don Gin and Ton]

the ideaof a hash opium ball is cool none the less though man, that would be the king of balls! ha. enjoy your kingly balls! post pics if you can thats intresting.
if you smoked it like you would regular hash would the opium still take effect?

Yeah ill probably do a seperate thread but drop a link to from this one. pics a plenty! ive just sourced some beans of OG kush X Headband for the balls! im stoked looks like a real hash makers delight

hmmm. They are both edible.. im sure you could do a number of things to consume them together.

dont think id like to risk getting the dose wrong eating or smoking to be honest

Hmm... I've heard that too, about there being an opium/hash mix out there. Seems to be a local thing and not exported much (if at all). I haven't ever seen a recipe for it, but I'd assume it's mostly based on preference. The dosage for smoked opium is pretty small so you'd want a pretty high hash to O ratio, unless you want to end up unconcious on the floor. Which, if you're mixing hash and opium into one smokeable ball, might happen anyway. If I were making it, I'd probably use either powdered opium, or a known amount of opium in the strongest possible tincture. From there, I'd add it to a measured amount of kief or finely broken up hash (the fresher the better) and knead it together for ten minutes or so. It would then need to age for a few weeks in order to make sure that all the ethanol or iso had evaporated (only if using tinctured O). It can take a long time to to get solvents out of a mix like that, especially if it has a high mass to surface area ratio, like a sphere. It could probably be used sooner, but might be pretty harsh. Royal temple balls sound interesting, but personally I don't like to mix my herb with O. Opium is special, and deserves to be enjoyed on its own, IMO.

thanks for the info man yeah i think i'll have to do some *cough cough* experiments with just the straight opium before i start adding it to the hash. get the levels right. I think ill probably go with powdered rather than try and add tincture to the mix the stuff will be trong enough without throwing the green dragon in the mix lordy maybe i should. probably a bad idea though haha

I have tried speed balls before O mixed with cocaine i took two hits huge hits and i thought i was a heavy cannabis smoker that shit had me passed out in less then 10 mins no joke my friends put me in a cold shower and i didint wake up so they pulled me out and slaped me and made me drink coffee. Warning if you do try Temple balls i say pleae use 90 to 95 percent hash to 10 to 5 % O so 1 gram if hash mixed with .02 grams of O its about looking like a drop of honey .

Thanks for the ratio whitetiger i probably will go with that to begin try it see how fucked up i am n go from there.

Maybe your thinking of thai stick, bud,soaked in hash oil, and sprinkled with opium

Sigfried (or is it Roy?), hahahah

Likewise, Thai stick was originally just a really potent strain from SE asia comonly available during the Viet Nam era and shortly thereafter. Most of the authentic Thai was consumed in country or on R&R in Bangkok, but some (only a tiny fraction of what was coming in from Central and South America) did find its way stateside. However, what is (and most of what was) sold as Thai stick (the honey oil soaked varity) in the U.S. is an attempt to recreate the potency ) of the now uneconomical to smuggle, but legendary, Thai Stick. Although, I think the practice did originate in SE Asia in order to make poor quality weed marketable to American GIs. We just copied the technique.

Dr.Nick

I actually had a go at making my own thai stick or a variant of, i wanted to make the canacigar set about a BBQ skewer with some buds A LOT of honey oil, an thread wrapping leaves round it layering with oil, it was a spectacular failure when i took the skewer out it was like sucking through a straw had to hit it like a ten $ whore

ended up with some super sticky coated nugs tho.


thanks for all the input peeps!

 

[Dr.Nick]

No prob man. If you want, raw (or cooked) opium can also be vaped in a pipe (my favorite) or mixed with tobacco to make madak and smoked that way. I might have to give the cannacigar thing a try. I like cigars and I like herb, so I guess it's a logical next step. Good luck on the project.

 

[Don Gin and Ton]

man if your going to have a go at making it, its no easy feat. I re evaluated the method when i failed and thought why do you need all the layers of leaf you could grind up some bud and use just a couple of fat indica leaves n roll it up like a wrap seal with oil and repeat maybe once or twice let it dry and fly.

here's the link to my thread but when the site changed over its got someone elses pics in there is a nifty pictorial of making your own weed paper you might find interesting tho
https://www.rollitup.org/toke-n-talk/243144-weed-cigar.html

now when you say raw or cooked. whats the pro's of cooking it? i was just going to shred and mix with the hash but if its a better hit or smoother etc i might consider cooking it and mixing.

i will be setting aside a portion to try on its own. and my mate wants some to try but im a bit sketchy on cooking opium i dont want to get busted for heroin production.

i was planning on jut filling up the space in my grow with a few poppies so any idea on how many heads ill need to make a reasonable stash would be appreciated !

cheers again!

 

[v12xjs]

There's some books I saw a long time ago called the great books of hashish by laurence cherniak. He witnessed and photographed the whole process of hash making around the world and there was a large section on Nepalese hash including the complete process for making Royal Nepalese and Temple Balls. I don't remember any mention of opium.

 

[Don Gin and Ton]

thanks for the tip ill look the books up.

 

[moodster]

i have heared there is opium in nepalese temple balls they bury it undergroung to make the opium come out from the centre

 

[Whodoo]

Back in the day, I saw a flattened ball, about 1/2 the height, but about the same diameter as a hockey puck. It had a round logo like symbol and strange writing deeply impressed into it's rounded top surface. These impressions were filled with a creamy yellow powder, and this same powder was seen swirled throughout the inside.

Come to think of it, I've seen a lot of strange shit.

 

[Swag]

Back in the day, I saw a flattened ball, about 1/2 the height, but about the same diameter as a hockey puck. It had a round logo like symbol and strange writing deeply impressed into it's rounded top surface. These impressions were filled with a creamy yellow powder, and this same powder was seen swirled throughout the inside.

Come to think of it, I've seen a lot of strange shit.

Are you talking about a cinnamon bun?

 

[Whodoo]

Hashish. I thought it would be obvious.

 

[Don Gin and Ton]

Back in the day, I saw a flattened ball, about 1/2 the height, but about the same diameter as a hockey puck. It had a round logo like symbol and strange writing deeply impressed into it's rounded top surface. These impressions were filled with a creamy yellow powder, and this same powder was seen swirled throughout the inside.

Come to think of it, I've seen a lot of strange shit.

sounds like what im looking for but i think opium is black!?