Best TGA yielder? Most potent? best high?

[anomolies]

I've been reading a lot of smoke reports and read all of the descriptions on each strain more than once, sometimes the smoke reports match up and sometimes they're different. If anyone has smoke reports to share that'd be great also.

Please help me decide, am trying to keep it down to 3-4 strains based on the following characteristics:

=> Best Yielder: Jillybean or Agent Orange ?? (if they're bout the same which one gives a more social high?).
Were veg times / training methods standardized in test runs? cus I saw some JB and AO that didn't yield so well.

=> Most potent: Chernobyl? (by potent here I mean best for medicating/pain relief)

=> Best cerebral high?: Apollo-13 BX? (I want to be able to function and not be scatter-brained).
but, I'm scared I'll be turned off by the "baby poo" smell of apollo-13

=> Best Euphoric High: Apollo-13 BX? Pandora's Box? Jillybean?

=> Best Social High: Jillybean?

=> Most Calming: querkle? (any others previously mentioned?)

=> Good for hash: Apollo-13 BX? (any others?)

=> taste: space bomb?

I really like Qleaner just from the images (it's so pretty!), does it fit into any of these categories?

I do not enjoy paranoia, or tunnel vision from smoking.
and for daytime smoke I do not want a deep-in-thought / meditative high,

so JTR and JC2 are out of the picture here? or worth a try?

 

[Petey McEnroe]

dont fear the poo!! A13bx is great pot. its will fit in your euphoric, social, getting shit done type of weed. the thing i have found with the a13bx is that its fantastic mixer weed. like if sumthins to potent for ya an gets ya noided out, the a13bx will prevent this.


heres the smoke report i did on the A13bx when i tested it

Breeder: Subcool
Strain: Apollo 13 bx
Lineage if known: Apollo 13 x Vortex
Grower: Petey Mcenroe
Judge: Petey Mcenroe
Type (sativa/indica ratio): sativa dom

EYE APPEAL

<7> Density
<7> Aroma

COMMENTS: not that dense, but the buds are pretty


SMOKE REPORT

<8> Potency
<8> Taste
<7> Smoothness (1 = harsh 10 = smooth)
<1> Indica Influence
<9> Sativa Influence
<3> Effect Onset (1 = immediate 10 = super creeper)
<2-3> Duration (In hours)
<3> Tolerance Buildup (1 = slow 10 = fast)
<9> Overall Satisfaction

COMMENTS: this bud is f***in fantastic.

High Description:
Smell: real complex....like a sweet sugar skunk. its really hard to place, like cooking sugar in a frying pan with a bit of earthy lemon i guess?
Taste: smooth full body flavor
Medical Effects: excelent strand for bipolar depression. i gave away dam near all of my harvest to a very special med patient and now im being introduced as 'the guy who fixed me" to her parents.
<10> Medicinal Strength

KEEPER?
<YES!!!> YES
<> NO

FINAL COMMENTS: i need to get another pack of these so i can start breeding with it. i still have 7 seeds left from what sub gave me and i think this is one of the best strands i have ever smoked. kinda reminds me of the dragons breath i used to get from hollistic sollutions at hill top befor they got shut down. thank you subcool for this great gift.

 

[ganjaluvr]

dont fear the poo!! A13bx is great pot. its will fit in your euphoric, social, getting shit done type of weed. the thing i have found with the a13bx is that its fantastic mixer weed. like if sumthins to potent for ya an gets ya noided out, the a13bx will prevent this.


heres the smoke report i did on the A13bx when i tested it

Breeder: Subcool
Strain: Apollo 13 bx
Lineage if known: Apollo 13 x Vortex
Grower: Petey Mcenroe
Judge: Petey Mcenroe
Type (sativa/indica ratio): sativa dom

EYE APPEAL

<7> Density
<7> Aroma

COMMENTS: not that dense, but the buds are pretty


SMOKE REPORT

<8> Potency
<8> Taste
<7> Smoothness (1 = harsh 10 = smooth)
<1> Indica Influence
<9> Sativa Influence
<3> Effect Onset (1 = immediate 10 = super creeper)
<2-3> Duration (In hours)
<3> Tolerance Buildup (1 = slow 10 = fast)
<9> Overall Satisfaction

COMMENTS: this bud is f***in fantastic.

High Description:
Smell: real complex....like a sweet sugar skunk. its really hard to place, like cooking sugar in a frying pan with a bit of earthy lemon i guess?
Taste: smooth full body flavor
Medical Effects: excelent strand for bipolar depression. i gave away dam near all of my harvest to a very special med patient and now im being introduced as 'the guy who fixed me" to her parents.
<10> Medicinal Strength

KEEPER?
<YES!!!> YES
<> NO

FINAL COMMENTS: i need to get another pack of these so i can start breeding with it. i still have 7 seeds left from what sub gave me and i think this is one of the best strands i have ever smoked. kinda reminds me of the dragons breath i used to get from hollistic sollutions at hill top befor they got shut down. thank you subcool for this great gift.

Fucking.. there's no words my friend. Those are works of art IMO.. I mean just look at those SensiMilla Flower Towers.. that's freaking nice man.

Excellent job..

and by god, one day I'm going to get the balls to just go ahead and order a strain from TGA Genetics. Nothing out there, IMO, can beat their genetics. Every strain that they have, is just amazing.

But again, very very nice grow bro. Next time, at least save a little bit for yourself to enjoy.. I'm just as a kind-hearted person as you are.. believe me on that. It's always a good thing to help people out whenever possible.. I'm all about that kind of thing. But save some for you to enjoy buddy.

Let us know whenever you start up another grow. I'd like to watch.. for sure.

peace..

 

[anomolies]

cool thanks for the report man. I mean, as long as the poo smell isn't overwhelming in veg/ flowering then it's on my wishlist for sure.

 

[Petey McEnroe]

Fucking.. there's no words my friend. Those are works of art IMO.. I mean just look at those SensiMilla Flower Towers.. that's freaking nice man.

Excellent job..

and by god, one day I'm going to get the balls to just go ahead and order a strain from TGA Genetics. Nothing out there, IMO, can beat their genetics. Every strain that they have, is just amazing.

But again, very very nice grow bro. Next time, at least save a little bit for yourself to enjoy.. I'm just as a kind-hearted person as you are.. believe me on that. It's always a good thing to help people out whenever possible.. I'm all about that kind of thing. But save some for you to enjoy buddy.

Let us know whenever you start up another grow. I'd like to watch.. for sure.

peace..

thank you very much for your kind words. to be compleatly honest if i could only grow 2 strains, it would be the A13bx for the day time and Pablo Cheese for night.

i do keep a decent amount of my harvests for myself, but i feel if sumone else would benifit more than i from it, deserves it more. BPD is no joke.

heres a link to my current grow of A13bx
https://www.rollitup.org/subcools-old-school-organics/338971-lets-flower-out-sum-tga.html

 

[anomolies]

hope Subcool or some other people comment soon, otherwise I'm probably going with:

Apollo 13-BX, for clear-headed high
Chernobyl, for medicating / night time smoke
Qleaner, cus it looks fuckin cool and all the reports are positive, however none describe the high in much detail...
is it like a social euphoric high?

If I get a 4th one it'll be Agent Orange or JillyBean for yield, not sure which.

Does JTR and JC2 induce paranoia?

 

[Petey McEnroe]

Does JTR and JC2 induce paranoia?

yes, they both can cause paranoia.

the JC2 is right up there in my top 3 easily. heres a pic of the pheno i grew. lemon hazy engin oil was the flavor. if you do choose it, dont scrog her...she dont like it to much. several tops like long pointed spears is the way to go.

theres sum really good JTR phenos out there. i havent ran her yet, but recently i was able to sample a JC dom pheno and a SQ dom pheno grown by a friend, and both were very nice. i liked the SQ dom better of the two because it was a bit calmer than the JC dom. the JC dom will knock you down and leave you dazed and confused.

 

[anomolies]

hmm.. my friend thinks he's a veteran... that he's tried it all, when he's only been smokin for like 3 years.

so for my 4th strain.. I want something that will really blow him away hahaha. what shall it be... JTR? JC2? Vortex? The Void?

or will Apollo13 / Chernobyl / Qleaner already accomplish this?

 

[Petey McEnroe]

they can all accomplish that.....easily.

 

[Resetbutton]

i've got super parinoid from smoking Jc like crawl up in bed too much ganja food parinoia. The best TGA in my opinion is vortex. it consistantly knocks the socks off of everyone i know and i've grown jc1, 3d, spacecheeze,qleaner,vortex,flav,jtr,nss,dank 1 and the original cuts of romulan,urkle,and a13 and I think the vortex cut that i have yields really well and never shows any bad traits even under strong stress

 

[gloomysmokes707]

i really cant decide i already know im going to get chernobyl but im stuck between Qleaner and A13 myself... i already got all kinds of knockout medicine like grapefruit indica, hindu and afghani kush... so the real question is ... how is Qleaner's high because i have searched for a detailed smoke report cant really find a whole lot... I havent heard anything bad about it so far and the parent strains are what have me interested in the first place. Apollo 13 seems to be the one im missing...but the pics on subcools page of Qleaners frostiness has me second guessing. Anyone have any experience with either A13 or or Qleaner in comparing the two if they are at all comparable ? Would greatly apreciate any response in helping decide what would be the keeper.

 

[Guest999]

Go with the Qleaner...

 

[howhighru]

How about The Flav? Has anyone grown that b4? If so how was it?

 

[tardis]

I've grown The Flav. Unfortunatly its the only subcool strain i've ever smoked despite the fact that I have 2 vortex and 1 jack the ripper in flower at the moment. Unlike them, when the flav was growing it had a strong baby poo smell. i'm a n00b grower growing only for myself but the Flav is so candy smelling almost minty but like super sugary mint.. I really wnat to do my first breeding experiment with it and dna's chocolope just to bring out a minty suggary sweet chocolate flavor. Seriously I did 3 plants, 2 females, both identical in look and smell, one slightly more potent than the other. It is hands down the best smelling candy weed in my collection. My friends who have licenses LOVE IT and only want to try that because of its awsome sweet smoke and candy smell and sugar coating and lime green coloring. I got some Querkle seeds I really can't want to start them once I chop these summer girls down. BTW I grew outdoor in 3 Gal pots in Hawaii. I know, small time for such strong genetics, but wow, what a great great smoke. Its better than chocolope which was my favorite until I grew flav.

 

[sniffer]

i wanna try some of that vortex and jack the ripper !!
only hear good things about those 2

 

[tardis]

Last night was a friends birthday who has a med card. WHen she dropped by and I offered her a smoke her first words were The Flav despite my 9 strains. So yeah its good, BUT if you think weed high is couchlock then you wont be happy. My tastes in weed change over time, but despite this I LOVE the euphoria of the flav. Makes me very very happy, and its smell and flavor are wonderful. If you are growing to sell i dont know if subcools stuff would give a big enough yield and some people just plain dont like sativa doms. Lots of people actually. But so far my n00b self as found that if you are growing for personal than subcools stuff is a necessary addition to your collection for personal smoke. I grew flav with tomato cage to lst them, and out of 2 plants I filled 3 jars to cure and store. (and thats without any veg just in the sun in 3 gallon pots). My barneys farm stuff seems to yield more than subcools gear, but i love the smell, taste, and high of subcools stuff more. currently growing a serious seeds white russian, barneys farm red dragon, reserva privada OG Kush #18 (i love this plant), greenhouse super lemon haze (I hate this plant), and subcool Jack the Ripper and Vortex. the one jack the ripper is nice lemony smell an dank looking tops where I lsted it, but vortex smell strong tangy smell and soft fabric looking buds. subcools stuff is waaaaaay frostyer than my whtie russian or any other plant. His stuff looks way more dank visually. yield isn't as high but everything else I love. I can't wait to smoke it and hope they are as good as the flav (which I will grow again and again!)

Subcool could be a saint or could be the worlds biggest jerk. He could be a true breeder or a know nothing pollen chucker. but in the end its about Results, for MY NEEDS Subcool rocks and is superior to any other company i've tried. Next up I got some querkle, agent orange, and pandoras box seeds to try.
If you are on the fence as to subcools stuff do the only thing you can, buy in pick and mix and grow some for yourself and see. If you love it post that you do like me, and if you hate it post why, please leave out anything political. I hate greenhouse seeds because they always hermie and have probs for me. BUT given the politics around Greenhouse is their strains REALLY WERE GREAT than i'd still buy them. Yes i'm a n00b, but i'm a n00b who is so happy to have come accross subcools gear. superior to my greenhouse, barneys, flying dutchmen (blueberry skunk), seedsman and dna (although chocolope is as good as flav just much harder to grow). You gotta try it for yourself and find out and subcools gear is worth it, I think majority of smokers will grow it again and again.

 

[nathenking]

i wanna try some of that vortex and jack the ripper !!
only hear good things about those 2

Yeah man, the vortex won the san fran med cup also, i here its just amazanily good.... your in for a real treat

 

[tardis]

Yeah man, the vortex won the san fran med cup also, i here its just amazanily good.... your in for a real treat

Both my vortex plants look and smell soooo dank. My white russian would be considered frosty but its not 1/4 the frosty snow tricomes my vortex has (and my JTR is looking and smelling lemony amazing too). His strains are legit, I could care less if people think he's a breeder or a pollen chucker, in the end he has the best genetics i've grown thus far.

 

[doc111]

Yeah man, the vortex won the san fran med cup also, i here its just amazanily good.... your in for a real treat

I've got some Vortex beans on the way. I ordered some JTR and Spacequeen before that and I never received them, so I am keeping my fingers crossed that my Vortex order will arrive in the next few days. I'm getting pretty excited as this will be my first go 'round with a TGA strain!

 

[tardis]

Not to make your expectations over the top and unreasonable so they are dissapointed (which happens with too much hype on anything). But I grew out subcools The Flav to see what all the hype was about with other breeders stuff and hands down the flav is the best out of all of them. Also you'll love the vortex, I got 2 going now with a group of 5 strains, and my two vortex are the ones that give m ethe most pleasure to look at. It is soooo dank. best way I can describe is it looks like its made out of soft fabric while the rest of the plants buds seem to be made out of wax or plastic. also the resin on my jack the ripper (which is yielding so many arms out of my lst and I didnt veg). ALso the resin content is soooo fricken high on all my subcool strains. my white Russian (which is famous for its resin content) is nowhere near as resonouse and its made of white widow and ak 47. words cant describe how much sugar is on his gear. its the best looking, best smelling plants in my grow along with barneys, reserva privada, and serious seeds. my flav i'm smoking now because it is such the best fricken sativa high. (not for indica lovers with the flav), but i suggest you grow subcools gear with other famous strains from other breeders, that way you really see how dank subcools gear is.