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ginjawarrior

ginjawarrior

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Serapis said:
I'm sure if you go around telling people to fuck their sister in real life you would quickly form a wiser theory on free speech.....
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that analogy would only fit if jef had the balls to goto a muslim country to burn his koran, atm he just seems like the little weasly one who starts fights but always ends up hiding behind his mates when trouble starts (the army)

it might be someones right to stand there and insult people, but would you go to their defense when the person their insulting stands up for themselves and kicks their arse?
 
jeff f

jeff f

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So I can burn bibles on the 4th of July, right?
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yes you may. and you can get federal arts funding to put a cross in a jar of human piss and call it piss christ. this is america and i dont give a fuck if a bunch of seventh century cavemen.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/09/06/iran.stoning.lashing/?hpt=T2

these are the people we need to apease? fuck them and their backward ass thinking. i spent 20 years helping to protect your right to free speech. and because some cavemen in afghanistan are pissed i am not gonna deny you your right to protest or express your dislike for anybody.

the general should have kept his mouth shut.

and before you even ask, no, i aint gonna burn no curan. and i am not concerned whether its a good idea or not. its your right. you weak kneed libs need to start defending rights instead of always trying to deny them.

i suppose you guys are all for a flag burning amendment?

and you think that they are gonna like us if corans dont get burned? hey wake up, they hate you, they always will hate you and they will cut the heads off your children if given the chance.

fuck cavemen
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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jeff f said:
yes you may. and you can get federal arts funding to put a cross in a jar of human piss and call it piss christ. this is america and i dont give a fuck if a bunch of seventh century cavemen.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/09/06/iran.stoning.lashing/?hpt=T2

these are the people we need to apease? fuck them and their backward ass thinking. i spent 20 years helping to protect your right to free speech. and because some cavemen in afghanistan are pissed i am not gonna deny you your right to protest or express your dislike for anybody.

the general should have kept his mouth shut.

and before you even ask, no, i aint gonna burn no curan. and i am not concerned whether its a good idea or not. its your right. you weak kneed libs need to start defending rights instead of always trying to deny them.

i suppose you guys are all for a flag burning amendment?

and you think that they are gonna like us if corans dont get burned? hey wake up, they hate you, they always will hate you and they will cut the heads off your children if given the chance.

fuck cavemen
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lawl

Dude, I really wonder what kinds of things must have happened in your life to have formulated opinions like these...
 
undertheice

undertheice

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jeff f said:
.....these are the people we need to appease? fuck them and their backward ass thinking. i spent 20 years helping to protect your right to free speech. and because some cavemen in afghanistan are pissed i am not gonna deny you your right to protest or express your dislike for anybody.

the general should have kept his mouth shut.
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i hope you realize the contradictory nature of your statement, that free speech is sacred except for the speech of this one general. i'm sure there are many people burning korans at this very moment and no one is stopping them. suggesting that it is an ill-conceived and puerile gesture is every man's right and a sentiment with which i happen to agree. just as the proposed mosque in new york would be an exercise in extreme bad taste, desecrating what someone else considers holy shows an utter lack of tact and grace. we should spend less time trying to piss off our enemies just because we can. it is juvenile and counter-productive.
 
doc111

doc111

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undertheice said:
i hope you realize the contradictory nature of your statement, that free speech is sacred except for the speech of this one general. i'm sure there are many people burning korans at this very moment and no one is stopping them. suggesting that it is an ill-conceived and puerile gesture is every man's right and a sentiment with which i happen to agree. just as the proposed mosque in new york would be an exercise in extreme bad taste, desecrating what someone else considers holy shows an utter lack of tact and grace. we should spend less time trying to piss off our enemies just because we can. it is juvenile and counter-productive.
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I totally agree. :mrgreen:

The muslims want to build a mosque near ground zero. That's their right. It's distasteful and disrespectful and a plain old, rotten idea.:evil:


The fuckwads in Florida want to burn Korans. That's their right. It's distasteful and disrespectful and a plain old, rotten idea as well. :twisted:
 
undertheice

undertheice

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doc111 said:
It's distasteful and disrespectful and a plain old, rotten idea as well.
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we seem to thrive on bad ideas. we twist them to seem reasonable and claim that they are our birthright, but a bad idea is still a bad idea. i have every right to walk downtown chanting "fuck you nigger, fuck you nigger" at the top of my lungs, but it's a very bad idea. it's a bad idea not just because i'm liable to get my ass handed to me in a pine box, but because it creates animosity and animosity does no one any good. peace is not served by animosity. industry is not served by animosity. only hatred and violence come from animosity and i think we already have enough of that.

is it so hard to quit pushing people's buttons and actually try to get along. i know that all of humanity will never just join hands and sing kumbaya around the campfire, but choosing up sides and chucking embers at each other doesn't seem to be the most worthwhile use of our time.
 
jeff f

jeff f

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undertheice said:
i hope you realize the contradictory nature of your statement, that free speech is sacred except for the speech of this one general. i'm sure there are many people burning korans at this very moment and no one is stopping them. suggesting that it is an ill-conceived and puerile gesture is every man's right and a sentiment with which i happen to agree. just as the proposed mosque in new york would be an exercise in extreme bad taste, desecrating what someone else considers holy shows an utter lack of tact and grace. we should spend less time trying to piss off our enemies just because we can. it is juvenile and counter-productive.
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no not contradictory at all. generals, any military persons are not granted free speech. you cant just talk to the press anytime you want. you arent given many rights that civilians are granted.

i agree that burning books is a tastless idea. the fact that people are reacting with such "disgust" about a stupid preacher in florida but the same people have no problem with cavemen stoning their women....seems slightly hypocritical. and its not only "extremist" muslims who believe this shit and mistreat, oppress, deny education to their women. its practiced in pretty much every muslim country around the planet.

so we are supposed to respect that culture? nah, not me man. fuck them and their religion and their seventh century attitudes.

and since when are you, me, anybody else in charge of what is distasteful?

do you support a flag burning amendment to the constitution? burning a flag is distasteful....to some...not to others.
 
jeff f

jeff f

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undertheice said:
is it so hard to quit pushing people's buttons and actually try to get along. i know that all of humanity will never just join hands and sing kumbaya around the campfire, but choosing up sides and chucking embers at each other doesn't seem to be the most worthwhile use of our time.
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not until they start flying planes into buildings, or start stoning their wives, or butchering their daughters. i can get along with anyone till they start doing those things.

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing "burke"
 
abe23

abe23

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I would love to go visit Iran someday, preferably after the mullah regime is gone...

It might have to do with the fact that they're all people who had to flee after the revolution went down the crazy path, but almost all iranians I've ever met have been very cool, likable people.

I think jeff is referring to arabs though. You know...the people who figured out all this stuff about medicine and astronomy, while europeans were busy burning heretics who questioned the church's version of the world.
 
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