CFL's ARE BRUTAL!
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Inneedofbuds
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you need to do your homework before making comments like that.
Besides Humbolt's grows I haven't seen many cfl grows that use nearly enought lights, and this method is a large force in the grow journals right now.
The little plants do fine under them, up to 6-8" i'd say, but as they get bigger you just can't service the majority of the plant, I've tried hanging cfl's with a bit of window screen around each one them at the side of the plants, and you'll still get burned leaves, how can a 42W light be so hot???
Anyway I used to use all of my time just moving and repositioning lights constantly to keep them close but avoid burning. What a waste of time.
Eventually I just bought the proper lights, and the difference is spectacular. When I look at the room that the plants are in now from down the hall it looks like the sun is setting in the room. That is a sweet feeling.
The little plants do fine under them, up to 6-8" i'd say, but as they get bigger you just can't service the majority of the plant, I've tried hanging cfl's with a bit of window screen around each one them at the side of the plants, and you'll still get burned leaves, how can a 42W light be so hot???
Anyway I used to use all of my time just moving and repositioning lights constantly to keep them close but avoid burning. What a waste of time.
Eventually I just bought the proper lights, and the difference is spectacular. When I look at the room that the plants are in now from down the hall it looks like the sun is setting in the room. That is a sweet feeling.
Inneedofbuds
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I could spend all day posting link after link of bad ass cfl grows that produced amazing buds, but I am lazy, and at this point, the topic has been beaten so far into the ground, I am going to leave it dead and buried.
DWR
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hashplant lets see your hps system then 
lol..... if u havnt got one i will totally laugh myself to death^^
you see i grow with hps.. and im trying the cfl's atm. i must say they are doing there job !
So why dont u go and do some research on why people are doing this with cfl's..
Maybe they dont have that money... and for a hps system i'd say u need about atleast 600 dollars .... if u realy want to grow good...
Cfl's - 60 dollars..... - sum dirt - good seed - Watch it grow... its fun....
why would u want to take there fun away ? Or maybe u should make fun of em because they are learning ?
peace......
lol..... if u havnt got one i will totally laugh myself to death^^
you see i grow with hps.. and im trying the cfl's atm. i must say they are doing there job !
So why dont u go and do some research on why people are doing this with cfl's..
Maybe they dont have that money... and for a hps system i'd say u need about atleast 600 dollars .... if u realy want to grow good...
Cfl's - 60 dollars..... - sum dirt - good seed - Watch it grow... its fun....
why would u want to take there fun away ? Or maybe u should make fun of em because they are learning ?
peace......
iblazethatkush
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Why is everyone jumping on this guy? Every real grower here will tell you the same thing. Cfls are fine if your just learning or refining your skills or just growing one or two plants...Anything else, dude is right, talk to me when you've tried a real light system.
FilthyFletch
Mr I Can Do That For Half
Hash is right on the money a cfl grow is about useless if you take the time to figure the cost of all the needed bulbs, the time to reposition each day to get coverage, the end result and the time it took to get there.then figure the amount of wattas need with cfls and it doesnt make any kind of scence.You can use florescent lights for veg just fine but cfls just dont do it unless your willing to buy a couple of actuall wattage 200 watt grow cfls the 2 foot long kind those can be used half way descent.Im not sure anyone who grows HID will ever complimet a cfl grow as its just the opposite.If you want cheap light go 4 foot T8s for veg
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iblazethatkush
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Yup if your too cheap for real lights. Go t8 not cfls.
crazy-mental
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i use flos for vegg, there great, but i use hps for 12/12.
ive seen some shit bud grown with flos, if your going to use flos all the way, then you need the rite ones, and plenty of them.
ive seen some shit bud grown with flos, if your going to use flos all the way, then you need the rite ones, and plenty of them.
DWR
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yep i used t8's aswell.....
As i said i'm only using this cfl for 1 plant..... ONE CFL ...... Not using 12 veg lights and 12 flowering lights... I dont see the point there.... but then again i only spent 50 dollars on the lamp and to be honest i realy dont care if this fails because im moving out in 2 months from now
Little experiment.... I'll join the " the real light " users again ^^
Peace... but i think ppl are scared of the electricity bill..... but with 24 cfl's running at one time u should honestly be considiring a proper indoor grow room....
peace..
As i said i'm only using this cfl for 1 plant..... ONE CFL ...... Not using 12 veg lights and 12 flowering lights... I dont see the point there.... but then again i only spent 50 dollars on the lamp and to be honest i realy dont care if this fails because im moving out in 2 months from now
Little experiment.... I'll join the " the real light " users again ^^
Peace... but i think ppl are scared of the electricity bill..... but with 24 cfl's running at one time u should honestly be considiring a proper indoor grow room....
peace..
iblazethatkush
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LoL. Sorry DWR. Didn't mean to be condescing. I guess I was, tho
Dr G.Thumb
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Everything has its uses and everyone has their own methods.
With that said... to say CFL's dont work is rather pathetic because they do work. But like anything, results will vary.
Some people dont want to use 4ft strip lights as they have limited space.
Compare the cost of HID setups and the fact that you need to replace the $50-$100 bulb after each grow (or its recommend anyway since they wear out quickly) to a $2 CFL bulb.
Now take into consideration that alot of people are newbies and may have never grown marijuana before or are trying to learn. Well for them to go spend a couple hundred dollars on a HID setup strictly for the learning experince is rather stuipd in my opinion because if they fail or give up then the money was just wasted.
In regards to Humbolt's results with CFLs. Hes done amazingly well and proved they work just fine. Hes probably saved a shit load of money vs buying all the HID crap and has probably learned a heck of alot which he could use to improve his next CFL grow.
Whether people want to use CFL, T12, T8, T5, or HID lights its all personally preference and making fun of someone for using CFL's or claiming they dont work when they do work is just retarded. Why not spend the time on something positive or creative vs flaming people who use CFL's vs HIDs ? But then again this is the internet so I guess thats a stuipd question right... lol
With that said... to say CFL's dont work is rather pathetic because they do work. But like anything, results will vary.
Some people dont want to use 4ft strip lights as they have limited space.
Compare the cost of HID setups and the fact that you need to replace the $50-$100 bulb after each grow (or its recommend anyway since they wear out quickly) to a $2 CFL bulb.
Now take into consideration that alot of people are newbies and may have never grown marijuana before or are trying to learn. Well for them to go spend a couple hundred dollars on a HID setup strictly for the learning experince is rather stuipd in my opinion because if they fail or give up then the money was just wasted.
In regards to Humbolt's results with CFLs. Hes done amazingly well and proved they work just fine. Hes probably saved a shit load of money vs buying all the HID crap and has probably learned a heck of alot which he could use to improve his next CFL grow.
Whether people want to use CFL, T12, T8, T5, or HID lights its all personally preference and making fun of someone for using CFL's or claiming they dont work when they do work is just retarded. Why not spend the time on something positive or creative vs flaming people who use CFL's vs HIDs ? But then again this is the internet so I guess thats a stuipd question right... lol
GiggleGirl
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I decided to try CFLs because I understood what I needed. They screw in a normal socket. I have to be particularly stealth out in stores so I can easily buy CFLs and no one thinks much of it. I didn't understand enought about what I needed with the others and can't ask in stores.
So for me that really made the difference. I can also easily disperse the CFLs around my house in normal places if I need to dismantle quickly.
I figure, what the hell... I'm not planning to become a drug lord, simple want to grow a little so I don't have to mooch off friends.
So, some of us have reasons, and the reward is sweet bud-- why be a hater?
GG
So for me that really made the difference. I can also easily disperse the CFLs around my house in normal places if I need to dismantle quickly.
I figure, what the hell... I'm not planning to become a drug lord, simple want to grow a little so I don't have to mooch off friends.
So, some of us have reasons, and the reward is sweet bud-- why be a hater?
GG
#1, you admit in your first sentence that a big problem with CFL grows is that most people don't have enough light.
#2, it's not hard to keep the grow cooled with CFL's, with lights as close as 1-2 inches from the leaves, without burning the plant. If you burned leaves, you did something wrong. Repositioning lights is the burden of CFL growing, just like cooling/venting efforts are the burden of using MH/HPS. Growing takes effort... if you aren't up to the challenge, something will suffer no matter what lights you are using.
#3, no intelligent CFL grower is going to argue that MH/HPS aren't generally more effective grow lights than CFL's. Does that mean CFL's are "brutal"? Hardly.
CFL growing is a different technique altogether. Despite being a bit more cumbersome to arrange and maintain around the garden, they have their advantages. Sounds like you didn't figure out how to grow with them.
You should change the title of your thread from
"CFL's are BRUTAL!"
to
"I personally suck at growing with CFL's so now I feel obligated to bash them!"
frostythesnowthug
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lol... you guys are funny.
Horses for courses i'm afraid...People will always think their system has its merits...which is true,each style of growing does...but those merits may not be advantageous to other growers in other circumstances..
Get over yourselves and lets get on with growing!!
If CFLs dont work for you, quit whining and get another setup..same goes there's alot of CFL'ers that begrudge the opinions of the HPS/MH crowd..
We are all entitled to our opinions, just dont fuckin force em down the throats of other people..or this place is gonna get un-civilised again.
I dont bitch at other guys for stickin a chevy motor in a 32 ford when i go dragracing,its his call and if it works for his needs, who gives a shit, we're all there for one thing, thrashing the fuck outta some vintage tin...same goes with this place..
SERIOUSLY, arent you guys tired of this fuckin debate yet??
as i said before in a previous CFLvsHPS/MH thread, remember:- opinions are like assholes,everybody has one and most of them stink!!!
Horses for courses i'm afraid...People will always think their system has its merits...which is true,each style of growing does...but those merits may not be advantageous to other growers in other circumstances..
Get over yourselves and lets get on with growing!!
If CFLs dont work for you, quit whining and get another setup..same goes there's alot of CFL'ers that begrudge the opinions of the HPS/MH crowd..
We are all entitled to our opinions, just dont fuckin force em down the throats of other people..or this place is gonna get un-civilised again.
I dont bitch at other guys for stickin a chevy motor in a 32 ford when i go dragracing,its his call and if it works for his needs, who gives a shit, we're all there for one thing, thrashing the fuck outta some vintage tin...same goes with this place..
SERIOUSLY, arent you guys tired of this fuckin debate yet??
as i said before in a previous CFLvsHPS/MH thread, remember:- opinions are like assholes,everybody has one and most of them stink!!!
SMOKENBUDDHA
SWEET JANE
this is a sub forum for cfl users so if your going to talk shit about cfls do it somewhere else
