Sanford and son's grow - MOVIN ON UPPP

dertmagert

dertmagert

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Ok.. so i decided to start the new year with a bang... Big Bang Feminised to be exact.. i got my order from the doc a couple weeks ago and was holding off to get myself a good light / cabinet set up before i germinated.. But i got impatient and threw them in some water a couple days before New Years eve..
Then i started to gather my set up, figuring that i would start them off with a couple CFLs and then get a 400 hps.. Well as luck would have it, when i woke up on New Years eve and checked my seeds i noticed that 4 of the 5 i germinated had cracked and began to sprout. So i promptly went out and bought a 4 light bath fixture, 4 y splitters, and 8 CFLs.. I made the DIY reflector then went on a search to house all of this.
I didnt even make it out of my drive way when i saw a washing machine being thrown away.. I took it, stripped out all the insides, and hung my light... This thing looks pretty cool!!!! .. anyway, proud of my new addition to the basement i went to my buddies house and was talking to him about it (new years night). and another break of luck --- He had a 430w HPS with a hortilux enhanced spectrum lamp that he wasnt using and GAVE it to me!! oh wow.. So now im on a mission to find a junk refrigerator to house the HPS for my flowering chamber. . . now i will be posting pics as soon as i have some veg growth to show off but first thing first. I need some help with ventilation..my plan is to use the hole that is already present in the back at the bottom( for 3 inch hose ) as an intake with a CPU fan sucking air in and i cut a 4 inch hole in the back at the top for exhaust.. i also have a 6" desk fan in the for circulation. . WILL THIS BE ENOUGH?

this grow has GOT to work out.. everything is falling right into place so far.. the best thing is that the seeds were placed into their pots on january 1st so it will be easy to track age..

scratch that.. the best thing is that i got a fuckin hps for free ... haha..
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dertmagert

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whoa.. your right.. lol.. damn how can i change that?? haha.. now i feel stupid AND stoned.. it was supposed to just say sanford and sons grow ( referring to the use of a washing machine and a refridgerator) but half way through writing my FIRST post i thought it would be witty to add "movin on up" (referring to the free hps i got as opposed to the cfls).. nonetheless Thanks for the GL and i would be more than happy if someone could refer me to any information regarding growing in these types of containers..
 
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dertmagert

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i dont recall where i read it but i believe that it said that feminised seeds dont produce clone worthy mothers... is this true? why?
 
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stinkincatfish

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talk to crazy mental about femmed seeds he didnt have much luck with them

i used reg seeds and got enough females, now im cloning off of them.

hows the setup?
 
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dertmagert

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Thanks for the interest.. the set up is workin... a little hot tho.. . 2 of the seedlings are monsters.. way bigger than the other 2.. my temp is at 87 degrees man.. i made a ghetto ventilation system thats definately sucking air out and i have a fan blowin across the lights/seedlings.. all 8 bulbs stay cool enough that i can touch them with no discomfort.. but the garage they are in is probably about 85 degrees itself.. is it possible to cool an enclosure to a temp lower than the room it is in with just the use of fans?

also, ive scrapped the fridge idea due to size restrictions.. im going to be using a much bigger room.. ((i built a recording booth in my garage for my music that i have not been using much)) i didnt want to part with it at first but who knows,,,, maybe recording in a room full of plants is mutually beneficial to the plant and artist. lol..:joint:
the room is 7 feet tall, 4 feet wide, and 5 feet long.. is this too much room for a 400 watt hps? im also thinking about using 10 gallon rubbermaid storage bins as pots!! is this over kill or will i be able to fill out my 4 babies alot better using this size pot?

again.. thanks for the interest and the help..
 
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stinkincatfish

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4x5x7 sounds just right for a 400w. ive got one and its in a corner of a 12x10x8 and it does fine for about 8 of my plants, some get better light than others but its still good.

ive heard of fridge grows before but it seemed too tight for me.

im running a pretty ghetto grow myself and ive outgrown two closets already and just broke down and gave them a whole room. the closets are now for veg and clones.

87 is a little warm, i have heat issues myself. its not so bad now in the winter though.

have fun
 
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dertmagert

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just checked the heat and im up at 97 degrees.. i need help with this... if anybody has any suggestions it would be greatly appreciated.. i will post pics of the whole set up if you need.. im not in panic mode as of yet, because im working on the flower chamber which im sure will have a much better environment, but i dont want these babies to suffer all the way to the good life..

the 2 larger plants are doing well, but are growing in a very odd manor.. they look to be performing a number from the village people ( Y M C A )...
their leaves are large and healthy looking but they are curling into themselves and standing erect.. two sets!** ..

**i just picked up a bottle of superthrive yesterday and applied it lastnight.. got home from work and another set of leaves formed.. they look like they have been there from the start.. very impressing results..
 
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dertmagert

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ok guys.. took a couple pics of the veg chamber.. next time i will take pics of the flowering room.. as you can see i lowered the plants a little ( about 3 inches )// they were alot closer to the light but im worried that they might be getting too much heat.. . they are now about 13 days old ( from the first crack in the seed)//

i noticed the temp was at 100 this morning so i opened the garage door and put a fan in the door way blowing air toward the washing machine/veg chamber... i took off the front panel and repositioned the fan as shown and the temp dropped 20 degrees in just a couple mins.. im now at 80 but im worried about this as it is just a temporary fix.. would it be beneficial to the plants if i was able to do this every day after work for a couple hours or would the temp fluctuations stress the plant?

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who wants to do a load of laundry?




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Tag inside lid says "MACHINE WASH HEMP PRODUCTS ONLY"




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moved em away from the heat..




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growing nicely but why so curled?


 
dertmagert

dertmagert

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1/13/08

note: im noticing that the seedlings are growing at different rates and different shapes.. i found this to be odd - i thought femmed seeds were supposed to produce relatively similar phenos? also, the 3 bagseeds i started are looking just like the BBs.. hmm.. perhaps il see the difference in the near future:spew:
 
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dertmagert

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:fire: i just had a brainstorm.. maybe this will fix my heat problem...


i have an old mini refridgerator in my garage.. it works great but i havent been using it since i cut back on my glutonous beer intake.. sooooo... what if i were to strip the cooling system from it and fix it to the backside of the washingmachine.. has anybody tried this? i imagine id be able to regulator the cooling system with a thermostat...

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Has anybody tried this? or has anybody ever taken apart a mini fridge? can it be done or are the components welded in place?

 
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stinkincatfish

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the washer looks great

is the whole garage that hot or just the grow? you need a fan and a vent either way,
if its just the grow you can probably cut a hole in the back (or bottom) and just blow air through it.
if the room is that hot then you need outside air(i start to worry at 90).

the plants look nice, dont know much about femmed seeds, but my plants grow at different rates and they are cloned from the same mom.

the mini fridge is kindof a neat idea. maby run a vent from it. it might be tough to move the whole cooling system without loosing the freon though.

cant wait to see your flower room.

good growing
 
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stinkincatfish

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or take the door off of the fridge and attach it to the back of the washer.

it does sound less stealthy after all of the work and cooling that much extra space might strain the motor, insulating the washer may help some.

youre not trying to make it cold in there, the motor might be fine, on second thought.
 
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From what I have read you need to keep the temp around 80. If you are going to grow in soil and to full potential try large 4 or 5 gallon pots or buckets. I hope someone else with much more experience posts for you. And I have also read that putting them in that recording studio, with the carbon dioxide and lots of sound could be pretty beneficial to them. Good luck!
 
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bearo420

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dertmagert said:
came across an article i found to be interesting.. maybe helpful in solving this heat issue.. im sure this can somehow be adapted to fit my needs..


Homemade air conditioner - Instructables - DIY, How To, home


ill just keep tossing up ideas until i sort this thing out.. anyone got suggestions?
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that fan is awesome, wish I had the time to do that myself, but anytime i see electrical components being added by myself, I think of my house on fire, so I think im just going to buy an indoor air conditioner, the ones that have actual vents, and vent it right into the grow room come summer. winter is definitely helping now though as my temps are 88 - 90 now.
 
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