Can a "No to Prop 19" person answer a question for me?

[420God]

thiefs are thiefs bro.....they steal shit...if theres a market for it and they could steal it and make a quick sale they would..!!

So you mean to tell me that you think someone might break into another persons house not knowing where they even are in there grow and steal a couple hundred dollars worth of smoke (if it's even ready for harvest). Doesn't sound anymore likely than it is now.

 

[CrazyBudz]

No people arnt just gonna randomly kick peoples doors in lookin for grows lol

 

[mr2shim]

So because people could potentially get robbed of their plants, prop 19 should be voted no on? That would be the dumbest reason in the world to vote no on something. You can't stop crime. I think some of you medical guys need to move out of Cali for a few years. You're way too far up your own ass. Hell, I would LOVE to see a pot walmart. It's better than seeing steel bars in front of your face.

I think a lot of you are forgetting how shitty it is to grow/buy weed illegally.

 

[420God]

So if 19 passes then medical grows won't be touched, people won't get locked up for nothing, and prices will come down. Hmm, not seeing the arguement other than big business will take over and you can invest and get rich with them. Where's the problem?

 

[420God]

pot wallmarts are just gonna produce as much weed as they can the cheapest they can..it will bring over all quality down by alot

BUT HERES MY MAIN RESON I VOTE NO
The only reason the state would put this bill together is so they can BUILD and TAX pot WALLMARTS when they make their sale...

I think everybody knows that the medical despencerys arnt paying taxes on 100% of their sales, most sales just go under the table...
The state dont have the time, money or resources to regulate them...so instead they Build the WALLMARTS and tax them...

Prop 19 wont generate the tax money they are saying it would...its just a way for the government to get involved...

Hell its only a 100 fine to posess under an OZ, if you need more than that just get a card for 100-200$ dont let the state gov get their hands all up in this shit..!!

Of course they want to build and tax pot Walmarts, guaranteed money! Your tax dollars aren't shit to the government.

 

[TokinPodPilot]

Excellent point, CrazyBudz. The monies collected under Prop. 19 are to be used in regulating the cannabis industry. Pot smokers are being asked to fund the next round of the drug war against them.

 

[CrazyBudz]

big business and government gets involved...you answered it..!!

you dont think government as big business has their hands in enuff shit as it is..?

 

[budling357]

So you mean to tell me that you think someone might break into another persons house not knowing where they even are in there grow and steal a couple hundred dollars worth of smoke (if it's even ready for harvest). Doesn't sound anymore likely than it is now.

How often do you see a criminal steal alcohol to sell for a profit? Not that often

I wasnt around during the prohibition of alcohol, but I imagine profit from the theft of liquor was much more desirable during this time.
Oh boy. What would we do if we didnt have history to learn from? I guess just make the same mistakes.

 

[420God]

big business and government gets involved...you answered it..!!

you dont think government as big business has their hands in enuff shit as it is..?

That's the way things have to operate now-a-days. The time for mom and pop shops was over years ago and the winners are the big business now. It's supply and demand and big business can meet those requirements.
Again, there is nothing stopping you from investing. Big business is owned by the stock holders, the people that actually invest.

 

[CrazyBudz]

me and my buddys use to steal alcohol ALL THE TIME before we were 21

and the high dollor shit is usually locked up in a cabinet

 

[CrazyBudz]

That's the way things have to operate now-a-days. The time for mom and pop shops was over years ago and the winners are the big business now. It's supply and demand and big business can meet those requirements.
Again, there is nothing stopping you from investing. Big business is owned by the stock holders, the people that actually invest.

OR you could just get a cannibis card and not let big big business and governtment take over yet another industy, just to waist the money on even more politicians special interests

 

[420God]

OR you could just get a cannibis card and not let big big business and governtment take over yet another industy, just to waist the money on even more politicians special interests

I would much rather chance having that money put new books on childrens desks than buy guns across the border. Sorry, it's the American in me.

 

[budling357]

me and my buddys use to steal alcohol ALL THE TIME before we were 21

and the high dollor shit is usually locked up in a cabinet

What is your argument?

Did you and your buddys go and kick someones door in, commit armed robbery, and steal the goods, just to get a small profit, at best. lol.

No. It was illegal for you to purchase it, for you and your buddies to get a buzz, so you stole it. Same applies here.

Dummies steal marijuana now because it is illegal and a profit can be made. This will not be so after 19 has been applied for awhile.

 

[TokinPodPilot]

Prop. 19 doesn't buy books for kids. Just funds the new regulation and enforcement regime which will make up the next round of the drug war. Your tax dollars will buy guns on this side of the border instead.

 

[420God]

Prop. 19 doesn't buy books for kids. Just funds the new regulation and enforcement regime which will make up the next round of the drug war. Your tax dollars will buy guns on this side of the border instead.

Can you show me where and how the moneys from this will be spent? Don't make shit up to sound good.

 

[CrazyBudz]

well since you guys cant even debate without putting other people down im done........do what you do!!

 

[green.budz]

its based on what the doc says youcan have but is superceeded to my best knowledge by individual county limits

 

[TokinPodPilot]

Can you show me where and how the moneys from this will be spent? Don't make shit up to sound good.

Read the bill:

Section 11302: Imposition and Collection of Taxes and Fees

(a) Any ordinance, regulation or other act adopted pursuant to section 11301 may include imposition of appropriate general, special or excise, transfer or transaction taxes, benefit assessments, or fees, on any activity authorized pursuant to such enactment, in order to permit the local government to raise revenue, or to recoup any direct or indirect costs associated with the authorized activity, or the permitting or licensing scheme, including without limitation: administration; applications and issuance of licenses or permits; inspection of licensed premises and other enforcement of ordinances adopted under section 11301, including enforcement against unauthorized activities.

Regulation and enforcement with no real limitations on the amounts, number or types of taxes/assessments/fees that can be applied. How anyone thinks that will work out to less per annum than a medical recommendation is beyond me. Especially given that many places offer recommendations for less than $100 these days.

 

[420God]

Read the bill:




Regulation and enforcement with no real limitations on the amounts, number or types of taxes/assessments/fees that can be applied. How anyone thinks that will work out to less per annum than a medical recommendation is beyond me. Especially given that many places offer recommendations for less than $100 these days.

So a portion of it goes to regulate it, duh. At least it stays in this country.

 

[mr2shim]

big business and government gets involved...you answered it..!!

you dont think government as big business has their hands in enuff shit as it is..?

You have two choices. Keep it illegal and have people get locked up over a plant or make it legal, deal with lower quality and big business taking over.

I chose big business. Peoples lives are far more important than the quality of weed I am smoking. Life is much bigger than you and me. It's time some of you guys wake up and realize that.