The Art of The Auto

FullDuplex

FullDuplex

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During the time that i have been a member on this site i see that a majority of the growers here are photo period based plant growers. I used to be one my self and still love the photo period ladies but my heart has found a new place. Mind you i haven't grown that many exotic strains or many of the "famed" strains that we see here, but i have grown a few.

I stepped away from the site to look for more information about something new i started growing. There are people here that grow them and i have seen several grows on these strains but there just wasn't enough info on them. I started a thread about AF's when i started with the Purple Jem. I had a good following from the few that grew them here as well as a few others that i have met along the way.

Since then i have been working with someone who has tons of experience with the AF strains as well as the gene pool all together. He has been a great mentor over the last season and i have to say i have learned quite a bit about them as well as how to get the most out of them.

This is to document my true success with AF's. I will mainly use this one thread to document all my AF grows as well as all the breeding i will be doing a long the way. Some say that these are a waste of time but after what i have learned and watched grow then smoked i will beg to differ. :leaf:
 
rocpilefsj

rocpilefsj

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How much did you pull off the purple jem per plant? I have been thinking of trying auto's but have been scared away by people saying the seeds aren't autoflowering on their own, or the amount you get from them is shit. How's the potency?
 
FullDuplex

FullDuplex

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rocpilefsj said:
How much did you pull off the purple jem per plant? I have been thinking of trying auto's but have been scared away by people saying the seeds aren't autoflowering on their own, or the amount you get from them is shit. How's the potency?
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See and that right there is why there needs to be a Auto sub forum here. What you are typically hearing are things from guys who have never grown autos more than once. they have specific needs as do photo period plants. for instance 12/12 is a huge thing for a photo period plant. It has to be done to promote proper photosynthesis. On the auto root depth is as important as 12/12. Small pots low yeilds. Jsut because its a little plant it still needs room. Unless you perfect a few things.

I got 42gs dry off that first plant. I have pulled the same if not more on the rest. Last harvest was over 3zips

The budwider strain is top notch. high is fantastic and i have yet to complain about any of the others. No one i sample it to complains or even knows its of the auto variety. They all just say "good shit man."
 
rocpilefsj

rocpilefsj

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42g ain't bad at all. I have harvested less than that off poorly taken care of photoperiod grows lol. I have heard that about root depth though, it seriously stunts their growth. I have been looking at the lowlife blueberry auto's for some time now, might have to give em a run. Do you start them out in the same pot for the whole grow? What light schedule do you run? 20/4? Thanks for the info in advance.
 
FullDuplex

FullDuplex

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rocpilefsj said:
42g ain't bad at all. I have harvested less than that off poorly taken care of photoperiod grows lol. I have heard that about root depth though, it seriously stunts their growth. I have been looking at the lowlife blueberry auto's for some time now, might have to give em a run. Do you start them out in the same pot for the whole grow? What light schedule do you run? 20/4? Thanks for the info in advance.
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I was impressed with it too. I am used to long season girls but this little sucker changed my perspective on autos. I usually start them in a jiff pellet and then right into the final resting place. If you mess with them past 2 weeks then you WILL stunt their growth. I currently run 18/6 and have been since spring. Once winter rolls in and temps drop ill be going to 20/4 for added heat.

One thing that i can recommend on autos. Make sure that the beans you get are proven 100% auto. Anything from Joint Dr and lowlife is your best bet to make sure you get your hands on full autos. Be careful on what you buy you want to make sure that it was crossed with LR1 or LR2 to ensure the auto gene. These two were built from rudelius which is the variety of cannabis that shows the auto trait.
 
MarcusTweed

MarcusTweed

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Fantastic....been looking for a thread for autos. got lots of questions need answering!!!

I must admit too, I'm a big lover of auto flowing strain, mainly because I'm a impatient bugger and like to have a constant supply of different types, all Jared up, like the shelve in a sweet shop.

I have currently got on the go:

Roadrunner #1 at 6 weeks, which is now root bound in a 9 litre pot, This is a big plant up to 2.5 feet or more, sweet citrus smell, very easy to grow
Big Buddha auto at 2 weeks, got pre-flowers, fast and easy to grow, big wide leafs, plant and forget
Onyx at 2 weeks slightly smaller than big Buddha, pre-flowers, compacted dark leafs.
Bubblicious auto at 6 weeks, did not auto, 12/12 first week, sensitive plant, bushy.
Either a Supersonic Crystal storm or g-o-m AK auto, seedling, got mixed up.
Thunder Bloody Mary, seedling

I plant seedling into peat pots, allow to grow until root pushes through then plant directly into final pot, this way they don’t get disturbed

Could you tell me the recommended pop size? I'm using a round 25''dia 26''deep around 9-10 litres? Also can you confirm deep pots are better for autos?
 
FullDuplex

FullDuplex

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MarcusTweed said:
Fantastic....been looking for a thread for autos. got lots of questions need answering!!!

I must admit too, I'm a big lover of auto flowing strain, mainly because I'm a impatient bugger and like to have a constant supply of different types, all Jared up, like the shelve in a sweet shop.

I have currently got on the go:

Roadrunner #1 at 6 weeks, which is now root bound in a 9 litre pot, This is a big plant up to 2.5 feet or more, sweet citrus smell, very easy to grow
Big Buddha auto at 2 weeks, got pre-flowers, fast and easy to grow, big wide leafs, plant and forget
Onyx at 2 weeks slightly smaller than big Buddha, pre-flowers, compacted dark leafs.
Bubblicious auto at 6 weeks, did not auto, 12/12 first week, sensitive plant, bushy.
Either a Supersonic Crystal storm or g-o-m AK auto, seedling, got mixed up.
Thunder Bloody Mary, seedling

I plant seedling into peat pots, allow to grow until root pushes through then plant directly into final pot, this way they don’t get disturbed

Could you tell me the recommended pop size? I'm using a round 25''dia 26''deep around 9-10 litres? Also can you confirm deep pots are better for autos?
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Sounds like you are off to a good start! Speed and safety with them.

Sounds to me that you have a good idea of where to start and a little understanding of the auto. Making sure that you dont disturb the rootball as well as the larger pots are right on the money. The bigger the pot the better she will do. I have yet to test this theory on my own but i have seen it done time and time again. i use smaller pots because of space, my ladies usually dont get to tall but oh do they get FAT. During the last harvest i have a wet weight of 70+ grams on a plant in a 4.5in pot. After time you will be able to dial everything in and get what you want/need from them..

Good luck with everything on the grow and stay tuned for as much info as you can digest.
 
FullDuplex

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DSB65 said:
Nice girls you have there..i grew short rider last year and they did really good,about 4 and a half oz off 5 plants.and it was pretty good smoke..not to jack your thread but heres a few pics of mine
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Thank you sir!

Sounds to me that you pulled a nice yield off of them and as long as you are happy with the results thats all that matters. You can post pics in here all you want, its all about learning and sharing as well as spreading the knowledge. This is what i want in this thread, to bring the auto growers together share and explore and provide the correct information about these rather than the crap that i see smeared all over here. Its time to make things right with autos here at RIU.
 
DSB65

DSB65

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Theirs been a few threads lately about nirvanas new autos not doing right... Even herd the short riders have been fucken up .this kind of stuff turns people off on the autos..just got to go with the breeders you mentioned above and you should be a happy customer...plus rep...
 
mcgyversmoke

mcgyversmoke

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good to have an auto thread i have not tried them out yet but definately thinking about it for a little closet s.o.g.
how many could i fit under a 1000w? and if they were in say 3 gallon pots.
 
AbsoluteChron

AbsoluteChron

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People can and do screw up literally anything you can think of so that part should not bother you too much.

How do you guys think the AFs perform on a per kilowatt hour basis versus a standard photo-period? I'm curious about the typical night time functions of the plant (namely root growth and co2 release) and how, if, and when the AF actually performs them. I don't think they really make sense for my situation (6/12 medical limit county), but it's very interesting and might make growing even easier for more people.
 
crazytrain14

crazytrain14

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yo duplex

good thread man. people really do need to realize autos aren't a joke. i grow them exclusivly now. here are a few pics


joint dr's lr#1 pic 1,2,3
lowlife auto blueberry pics 4,5
delicious seeds la diva. 6,7
pic 8 is of my la diva and blueberry in my case now.

plus rep for starting this thread

peace dude


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uptosumpn

uptosumpn

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Ha, found your thread bro!! :)
Anywayz, you already know how i feel about autos.....with that said, I agree, we need a auto section here @ RIU!!!
But in the meantime, it will be a def interesting fall/winter as i will use this time to work on my hybrids, (f1, f2 & f3) and show all the NON-BELIEVERS that AUTOS can and do hang with the 12/12 girls...PEROID! when I harvested my first crop.(Ak's WhiteDwarfs, and Lr2) Not 1 person knew those buds have rundells in it...Matter of fact, I kept hearing, man where did you get that bomb shit from! [if they only knew...lol!]... all of it was gone in a week!! 9oz....

Best advice I can give all that wanna give autos a try....besides what my friend FD has mentioned...2 gal min pots, no nutes till beg. of wk 2 min @ 1/4 strength..(but this depends on soil also...I perfer FF Light warr or Promix....DONT USE FFOF TO START SEEDS!!! TOO HOT!!!!But can use after transplanting) use a good root stimulator, like roots exceluator or rizhotonic<both mispelled but ya get it..have good drainage/run-off, ie perlite if growing in soil/coco<which is betta I heard...lots of blue light, (veg) in the beg. of their lives...@ 4-5in from tops (min HO T5's, which I use, but will be upgrading to 400MH on next grow) 20/4 first wk, then 18/6 2nd wk, then 17/7 by 3rd wk<this will encourge more females IMO with good humidity around 50-70%.....Then after transplant use either 20/4 or 18/6...you choice......peace and weed
 
FullDuplex

FullDuplex

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I see things are starting to roll here and thats a great sign.

Loving the Pics guys glad to see you all starting to come out a join in.

As promised here are t the few that i am working on now.

I give you ALF#3
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Pics 1-4 are what i call the donkey pheno no branching
Pics 5-7 are the bush pheno JEM Dominant
pics 8 & 9 up close of the donkey pheno

In a bit Ill get the JEM breeding project up

FD
 
FullDuplex

FullDuplex

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As i promised my Purple JEM breeding project:)

Here you will see both male and female plants. I have already isolated the Male to the new PC case i have built. Got 2 42 watt cfl's in there to keep him alive as well as producing pollen. Here is where i will do 2 things. One i will do an open pollination in here. Once the male starts dropping pollen i will move the one female to the PC case with him for 2-3 days to make sure that i get a good pollination on her. Two i will remove her from the pc to finish in the larger room and then harvest the pollen from him.

I currently have 2 males at the same age so this is a first i usually dont get one but this time i got two. I made my selection on this one due to its growth. It showed sex at exactly 2 weeks (14 days) and is quite vigorous so he will be my doner for this project.

So here are the seedlings

enjoy

FD
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FullDuplex

FullDuplex

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yo duplex

good thread man.
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Thanks man i just want people to know that this side of cannabis has come a long way from the lowryder.

joint dr's lr#1 pic 1,2,3
lowlife auto blueberry pics 4,5
delicious seeds la diva. 6,7
pic 8 is of my la diva and blueberry in my case now.
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Job well done here. These ladies look fantastic. I too am only growing autos but i do run photo ladies to get some new genetics in the gene pool. Ill have a new project this winter on a Long season girl i am bringing into auto.
 
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