Issues With Prop 19 Solved! Now we can all Support it.

desert dude

desert dude

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Hayduke said:
Q:When was the last time the price went down on ANYTHING people actually want???

A: NEVER.

If this passes...the only way anyone will be able to support small local growers will be illegally.

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You typed that post on some sort of computer. The price of computers has dropped many thousands of percent in price in the last twenty years, and we all own them.
 
mccumcumber

mccumcumber

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After alcohol prohibition alcohol prices plummeted. It is speculated that weed prices will go down because huge grows now have a chance to be legal. Quality will still be pricey, but there will be way more quality producers. With more producers, comes cheaper prices. That is why many people think the prices will go down. It's almost a fact that outdoor will go down when thousands upon thousands of acres will be dedicated to growing with no threat of being taken down. That means the price of maintenance will plummet, making the price of weed lower significantly. Businesses also get cheaper electricity prices than residential areas do, as well as cheaper water etc. So, a new company, in order to undercut the current dispensary market (which has already started to drop funny enough) would come out with the same quality bud at a cheaper price.
 
klmmicro

klmmicro

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mccumcumber said:
It's almost a fact that outdoor will go down when thousands upon thousands of acres will be dedicated to growing with no threat of being taken down. That means the price of maintenance will plummet, making the price of weed lower significantly.
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Except for one thing, the analogy of ending prohibition of alcohol does not apply in this case. This is STATE LAW ONLY. The Feds still can (and WILL) go after anything that surfaces on the radar. They have stated thus already that they will not tolerate California (or any other state) showing their war on drugs as the garbage that it is. My thought is simple, small personal "recreational" grows will slip under the radar without issue while the feds will pound anything commercial out of existence. We will not see any significant change in price or supply chain for a long time. The state agencies will be obliged a blind eye, but DEA and such will be keen to step up enforcement.
 
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gupp

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Hayduke said:
Q:When was the last time the price went down on ANYTHING people actually want???

A: NEVER.

If this passes...the only way anyone will be able to support small local growers will be illegally.

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Now, let's not forget that we're in a recession so a lot of things seem to be going up in price. Cost is pretty much defined as supply:demand. If I were to find a billion diamonds tomorrow....(as an example) the price would not be as high after I sold a few.
 
REALSTYLES

REALSTYLES

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gupp said:
Now, let's not forget that we're in a recession so a lot of things seem to be going up in price. Cost is pretty much defined as supply:demand. If I were to find a billion diamonds tomorrow....(as an example) the price would not be as high after I sold a few.
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Wrong you'll keep the same price and make more. Let's be real here
 
REALSTYLES

REALSTYLES

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klmmicro said:
Except for one thing, the analogy of ending prohibition of alcohol does not apply in this case. This is STATE LAW ONLY. The Feds still can (and WILL) go after anything that surfaces on the radar. They have stated thus already that they will not tolerate California (or any other state) showing their war on drugs as the garbage that it is. My thought is simple, small personal "recreational" grows will slip under the radar without issue while the feds will pound anything commercial out of existence. We will not see any significant change in price or supply chain for a long time. The state agencies will be obliged a blind eye, but DEA and such will be keen to step up enforcement.
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Right now man right now
 
mccumcumber

mccumcumber

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Plus there's so many computer companies, if 19 passes there won't be no competition for the big corps so they'll be able to do what ever they want
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What makes you think that there won't be tons of weed companies?
 
mr2shim

mr2shim

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REALSTYLES said:
computers and weed are two different things computers legal weed not
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Yes, very different, but think of the logic behind it. Supply is low, prices are high, supply is high prices are low. Marijuana is illegal so essentially supply is low because it's illegal. Make it legal, supply will increase price will drop.

It's simple economics. Things are always more expensive when they're illegal.
 
REALSTYLES

REALSTYLES

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mr2shim said:
Yes, very different, but think of the logic behind it. Supply is low, prices are high, supply is high prices are low. Marijuana is illegal so essentially supply is low because it's illegal. Make it legal, supply will increase price will drop.

It's simple economics. Things are always more expensive when they're illegal.
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Not when it get Regulated and controlled. Look at alcohol there's a lot that around and the good stuff is expensive there's no price break and don't get me talking about gas and cigarettes. This bill has too many alternative motives to it mostly money and when money is involved someone gets screwed.
 
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gupp

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REALSTYLES said:
Wrong you'll keep the same price and make more. Let's be real here
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How am I going to keep the price of diamonds above sand? Think huge amounts here man, huge.

Edit, for clarity lets just say that it was announced that there was a 10,,000 foot mountain of pot, like mount shasta, and it regrew itself, how is the price going to stay high

Because if i have your position right, you are trying to tell me that it is literally impossible for the price of an item to change, like somehow it's just pegged to a certain price or dollar value.

Edit: I think you are confusing price for utility. Many things have a use for them- be it making computers, entertainment, or anything else. This doesn't have to correlate with its availability (or price) at all.
 
REALSTYLES

REALSTYLES

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Funny thing is I don't grow 50+ plants. I grow 4-6 plants and they're at least 2 1/2 feet wide indoor and my grow area is now reduced to 5 x 5 and y'all don't think I'm pissed about it. Maybe when realized this is a phased you'd be pissed too.
 
REALSTYLES

REALSTYLES

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gupp said:
How am i going to keep the price of diamonds above sand? think huge amounts here man, huge.

Edit, for clarity lets just say that it was announced that there was a 10,,000 foot mountain of pot, the size of a mountain in the middle of town, how is the price going to stay high
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If it's fire it will and if it came from one plant it would be more way more . Because everyone would want to try it for it came from a mountain. It would be all over the news and shit
 
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gupp

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But its dollar value would not have to reflect that.
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Basically I'm saying that there are some things, like water, or potatoes, that we could charge more for if they were scarce. Water in particular is so abundant that it's basically free.
 
mccumcumber

mccumcumber

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Your grow is not reduced if you have a 215. Even if you didn't have your 215 then your grow wouldn't be reduced. It would increase by 25 sqft.
Do you know how much the permit is going to cost? Probably not more than a loan could cover.
 
Hayduke

Hayduke

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Bullshit! If the supply is high...YOU MAKE HASH!!!!!!

The price of weed is NOT going to plummet!!! Taxes, fees and greed make sure of it.

There will not be tons of companies...19 allows local governments to charge what they wish...or not allow it at all.

This was written by and for Dick Lee...SF and Alameda County will be fine with working with a select few Mega growers.

Conservative SoCal will see very little commercial production because Jesus is coming back and they don't want to risk pissing him off...Hemp threatens the timber industry in the North, and the Central Valley fights for every drop of Delta water they can get...and it's NOT enough!

But don't worry...you will probably be able to buy Oaksterdam weed all over the state.

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