Club 600

[Heads Up]

Can anyone give me a general idea on how far - typically - one can expect to space a 600W HPS from the tops of a plant without an aircooled reflector/cooltube in a 8 sq ft, 4' tall tent? Room is A/C cooled, tent will be vented by means of 2 X 4" inline fans @ 80 CFM... 18"? more, less?

Put your arm under the lights at the canopy level. If in ten seconds you think it's too warm, so do your plants.

 

[Scopse]

Scopes, if you have one that is already a female and the other is the same age and showing no signs of being male, it's probably a female cause males generally show themselves before females. Out of the seeds I started for an 'in between' grow, a male was the first to show it's sex and it's been gone for about a week. I just finally saw the first pistils popping out of the last plant that needed to be identified last night. A week later than the male.

Ahhh okay, thanks for the heads up then dude (no pun intended) I didn't know that was the case being my first grow and all. I know I've got feminised seeds but it doesn't mean they're 100% going to be fem, is that right?

 

[mcpurple]

This is thanks to civil disobedience, I just found this on another thread and it is cool. A new way to clone, new to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkNN6Ar5pYo

This is just awesome.

sweet find, except its all in spanish but it looks to be doen the same way as grafting, very cool find

 

[DST]

I think vertical could be a winner...not sure if you have enough height to make it worthwhile...

Ok, I'm not sure if this will help any but I took a couple pics of the old table with the cooltube hanging over it and some plants. I took the pic by standing on the 48" side of a 36"X48" table. It's deceiving in the pic but it is actually 48" from left to right and only 36" from nearest the camera to farthest. You can see which direction the cooltube is pointing so maybe it will be easier to understand my question.

Basically you can see that there are no reflectors on a cooltube to reflect the light in the 48" dimension and I think everyone will agree that the HPS bulbs emit more light out of the sides of the bulb than the end (hence the reason some people do vertical grows with no reflectors on their cooltubes or use just a bare bulb hung vertically). There are however small reflectors to control the light coming from the bulb and direct it downward. I'm wondering if I'm better off hanging the cooltube over the new 36"X42" table the same way it is here so the long dimension of the cooltube (19" long) is running the same direction as the long dimension of the table or if I should turn it 90 degrees so the long dimension of the cooltube is running the same direction as the 36" dimension of the table.

Thanks for being patient with me on this. I'm not sure why I'm having a hard time explaining it but I am for some reason.

 

[DST]

Can anyone give me a general idea on how far - typically - one can expect to space a 600W HPS from the tops of a plant without an aircooled reflector/cooltube in a 8 sq ft, 4' tall tent? Room is A/C cooled, tent will be vented by means of 2 X 4" inline fans @ 80 CFM... 18"? more, less?

I woulds say that is about right.....

 

[1badmasonman]

DOGS..................

LEFT PLANT COLA

RIGHT PLANT COLA

they are i one gal pots,i'm still not good at keeping time of how old,but i must be around 2-3 weeks.
looking good if i must say so!!! nice work D.

Looking good as usual Genutiy. Very healthy DOGs bro. Getting frosty already. Nice

Thank 1BMM for the UrbanGarden article....but I must say....If you don't know...hire someone.
Lets face it...we are stoners....unless you completely understand electrical theory and Ohms law...and know the current national and local level codes......leave it to the pros.
I've have had 5 yrs electrical education through the apprenticeship program my union provides and still wouldn't do it myself.(although I am lazy so that's probably the main reason)I don't even know how I have such a healthy harvest being so lazy!!!

Yes I suppose you are probably right Endls. Electric is scary to fuck with. But if you have no stoner freindly electrician in your pocket. It either DIY or DONT. I know thats not good advice lol. You win haha.

Ok, I'm not sure if this will help any but I took a couple pics of the old table with the cooltube hanging over it and some plants. I took the pic by standing on the 48" side of a 36"X48" table. It's deceiving in the pic but it is actually 48" from left to right and only 36" from nearest the camera to farthest. You can see which direction the cooltube is pointing so maybe it will be easier to understand my question.

Basically you can see that there are no reflectors on a cooltube to reflect the light in the 48" dimension and I think everyone will agree that the HPS bulbs emit more light out of the sides of the bulb than the end (hence the reason some people do vertical grows with no reflectors on their cooltubes or use just a bare bulb hung vertically). There are however small reflectors to control the light coming from the bulb and direct it downward. I'm wondering if I'm better off hanging the cooltube over the new 36"X42" table the same way it is here so the long dimension of the cooltube (19" long) is running the same direction as the long dimension of the table or if I should turn it 90 degrees so the long dimension of the cooltube is running the same direction as the 36" dimension of the table.

Thanks for being patient with me on this. I'm not sure why I'm having a hard time explaining it but I am for some reason.

Looks like your getting there Dez. Plants are bushy and healthy from the looks of things bro. Good job man.

I think i got some Good Luck my Dina Fem Freebies i recieved were
Blue Widow 85%
And Cloud 9 60%
Along with my 6 Sour Creams
and Pineapple Express, and Kandy Freebies Cant wait ive been wanting to try Blue Widow Anyway heres some pics

Urkle

RR with its Fat Buds

BB D

Nice collection Hotsauce. You will love the Blue Widow. Its some really tasty herb. Pretty easy to grow too. Looks like your getting the handle on your hydro setup. Hats off to you bro. Im probably going to scorch a few plants getting mine dialed in lol.

OK, thanks guys. I have someone who wants some clones is why I'm asking. I like to use the barter system is some circumstances. Rather than charge the guy for clones I would rather have some bud in return. Does that sound like a reasonable trade for anyone who does deal with clones? Say five grams per clone?

Genuity, I had that something like ten years ago and it damn near killed me, or at least I felt like death. The new moania, not the other. Well I'm glad to hear you are feeling better. I was down for a week last week with some kind of chest and head thing.

Going to walmart tonight to get more air stones and another air pump for bubbles, and a food vacuum storage thingy. The clones are coming along but should be further along. I'm just pleased that out of the nineteen cuttings, so far they are all alive.

The country ass farmers I went in with on my outdoor have been doing the half & half BS for giving up there clones. In other words they give me a clone and expect half the harvest. But i found when the shoes on the other foot they dont like to follow ther own rules.

Before i go into a rant a few grams of primo would be compensation enough for me. I think from 5-15 apeice is tops. I got a guy that gets a few from me from time to time. At first i told him 20 and he was like naw ill just drive to colorado and get em for 10. OK go for it haha. No hes my boy so i hooked him up. Actually i gave them to him but thats just cause we been through alot of shit together.

Can anyone give me a general idea on how far - typically - one can expect to space a 600W HPS from the tops of a plant without an aircooled reflector/cooltube in a 8 sq ft, 4' tall tent? Room is A/C cooled, tent will be vented by means of 2 X 4" inline fans @ 80 CFM... 18"? more, less?

18" is a safe level. If you got a good fan blowing on the ladies you can get closer.

This is thanks to civil disobedience, I just found this on another thread and it is cool. A new way to clone, new to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkNN6Ar5pYo

This is just awesome.

Coming to check it out HU. 1BMM

 

[1badmasonman]

Ahh yes Ive seen this before. Air layer cloning i think is the technique

 

[nas2007]

hey lads. im having a isue with my plant i made a thred and posted pics if any of yeh lads can check it out it will be most appreciated. here is the link. Help! Plant leaves curling up pics included....

 

[Dezracer]

Thanks DST and 1BMM.

I realized this afternoon that my soil PH/moiture meter also has a light meter on it. I'm sure it's not accurate at all but figured it may show me which direction has stronger light at 24" away from the center of the bulb so I'll check it out tonight after the light comes back on. I haven't hung any Panda film or Mylar yet since I still haven't decided on which direction I want the two cooltubes to point.

It's definitely not going to be a vertical grow since I set the ceiling height at 7' but I'm still not sure if I want the tubes spanning the length or width of the flowering tables.

On another note, the autos are coming along nicely. I'll wait to post any pics of the new room or plants until everything is in it's permanent home but It's all built, sheeted and light tight. I've got the cooltube hung temporarily and it's got 6" ducting connected to it now with a fan on one end pulling 250 CFM and a Can 33 on the other.

 

[1badmasonman]

i dunno but she looks healthy to me homie

 

[GNOME GROWN]

17 days Flowering for the Bubba

4weeks 3 days vegg for the Sharks breath

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[Dezracer]

so I took my 3 in 1 meter and a tape measure and checked light intensity at 24" from the center of the bulb in each direction and at the same height. The light 24" from center of bulb to the side of the cooltube was twice as intense (showed as a 7 on the meter) as the light at 24" from the center of the bulb running the same direction as the bulb (showed as a 3). Again, this was measured at the same height both ways. The meter doesn't tell you lumens or lux or anything. It's only good for comparing one location to another.

Given this info, I'll be turning the cooltube 90 degrees on Monday and haning the new one next to it 42" away figuring the overlap of light should be sufficient at that distance to keep stretch to a minimum. This will give me the 36"X74" overall flower area that I was shooting for.

 

[Dezracer]

i dunno but she looks healthy to me homie

I agree. That's a nice looking plant.

 

[jigfresh]

First of all... I'm way behind on reading the 600. I'm like 10 pages back, so sorry if I missed anything. Been working like crazy the past few days.

Anyways, just wanted to share a couple things with my best mates:

First I took my new jeep on a pretty crazy trail, who knew there was an off road trail rating. This ones a black diamond. Kinda like ski slopes I guess.

Next, on the way home I came across an amazing sight. DST lives below the see.... I live above the clouds. This is right at sunset. I am at around 6500' elevation... the cloud level is around 5000'. So awesome to be in an international weed growers club.

Also.... I promise I'll post pictures of young marijuana plants soon. Just in case anyone thought I've quit growing. I've just been getting ready for a long long time.

 

[Dezracer]

I think I know that trail, lol. I used to ride there when it was too hot in the desert and also at night in the spring to test my lighting setups for the night races. It's been about a year though so I don't remember exactly where in that area that particular trailhead sign is.

 

[curious old fart]

First of all... I'm way behind on reading the 600. I'm like 10 pages back, so sorry if I missed anything. Been working like crazy the past few days.

Anyways, just wanted to share a couple things with my best mates:

First I took my new jeep on a pretty crazy trail, who knew there was an off road trail rating. This ones a black diamond. Kinda like ski slopes I guess.

Next, on the way home I came across an amazing sight. DST lives below the see.... I live above the clouds. This is right at sunset. I am at around 6500' elevation... the cloud level is around 5000'. So awesome to be in an international weed growers club.

Also.... I promise I'll post pictures of young marijuana plants soon. Just in case anyone thought I've quit growing. I've just been getting ready for a long long time.

Awesome photo! Thanks for sharing.

Enjoy any rested sleep you can, for when you become a father, it will be a long time coming. But it is the most wonderfull experience you will ever have.

from a father and grandfather.


cof

 

[DST]

Now that is a cool mofo shot my bru. Stay strong brother up there in them clouds.....peace and love from under the see!! DST

Next, on the way home I came across an amazing sight. DST lives below the see.... I live above the clouds. This is right at sunset. I am at around 6500' elevation... the cloud level is around 5000'. So awesome to be in an international weed growers club.

Also.... I promise I'll post pictures of young marijuana plants soon. Just in case anyone thought I've quit growing. I've just been getting ready for a long long time.

 

[Feirefiz]

wow, somone was watching over you Don gin and ton. good call on those bricks i am gonna have to get some of those goin. do you mind if i ask what type of speed controllers you guys use? i read don and 1bmm you guys were just getting new fans and controllers, my speedster shit out on me. just runs on full now which is wierd, never did like the hum from turning that type of controller down. Looking to get a good quality ... variac they call it? can anyone recommend one, this is the fan i am using http://www.valleyindoor.com/product.php?productid=1085&cat=12&page=3 ive tried lookin around nobody really has a definite answer, is this hum just somthing u gota deal with by turning down these types of motors? thanks my fellow 600's

 

[Don Gin and Ton]

i jknow man seriously lucky eh. im hungover today though and the smell of burnt plastic is making me wretch cant help with the controller man im just reading up on them myself.

awesome pic jig man!!

 

[las fingerez]

wow, somone was watching over you Don gin and ton. good call on those bricks i am gonna have to get some of those goin. do you mind if i ask what type of speed controllers you guys use? i read don and 1bmm you guys were just getting new fans and controllers, my speedster shit out on me. just runs on full now which is wierd, never did like the hum from turning that type of controller down. Looking to get a good quality ... variac they call it? can anyone recommend one, this is the fan i am using http://www.valleyindoor.com/product.php?productid=1085&cat=12&page=3 ive tried lookin around nobody really has a definite answer, is this hum just somthing u gota deal with by turning down these types of motors? thanks my fellow 600's

my primair puts out a hum when i start getting down to near idle speed. i also have a different controller for my air cool light (systemair), that starts humming also when you turn it down. i'm not sure why they do it but i'm not thinking its gonna damage it coz i've had it for over a year.


some wicked photos jig and bbm