odour control, less than 50 usd, is "Air Purifier" with carbon filter

[cornelivs]

something I found on net, it's like 50 USD,

I have closet with 10 plants, do you think it is gonna work? is cheaper than carbon filters (including a carbon filter and ect.)

http://www.teknopot.com/epages/Store.storefront/;Locale=en_GB?ObjectPath=/Shops/Akcaba/Products/101668
Sinbo SAP-5501 Air Purifier

• Cleaning system which purifies the air from dust and makes the environment healty by creating a small attraction effect
• PP filter which collects large dust particles and extends the life of HEPA system
• HEPA system which filters particles and pollens
• Cold catalyst filter which activates at room temperature and filters harmful gases in the air
• Active carbon filter which destruct outside particles
• Effective in 30-50 m² area
• Low sound level (26dB [A])
• Ionizer which spreads negative ions to the environment
• Negative ion density: 3.86x106 ions/m³
• Remote control
• Light up control panel
• 3 level operation speed (low, medium, high)
• Adjustable timer up to 12hours
• Setting memory function
• AC 230V / 50Hz / 30W
• 2 year warranty

 

[Kerovan]

You can use it to try to remove any remaining odor that leaks out of the grow room's carbon filter. That's about it. You HAVE to have a carbon filter that filters all air as it's extracted from the grow room, with negative pressure in the grow room to keep the odor down. You cannot just put a filter in there and hope it removes odors, because it won't.

 

[cornelivs]

You can use it to try to remove any remaining odor that leaks out of the grow room's carbon filter. That's about it. You HAVE to have a carbon filter that filters all air as it's extracted from the grow room, with negative pressure in the grow room to keep the odor down. You cannot just put a filter in there and hope it removes odors, because it won't.

thanks for the reply but, this thing has a carbon filter. is size of the filter that important? my room is like 3x6 feet ??

 

[NOWitall]

depends on your overall air changover rate.

its a function of the time it takes your closet to completely change its own volume in air

high changover ussually keeps odors low anyway.

but even if it doesnt work in your grow room.
you could put it in your Lroom and live longer.

oh and activated carbon is interchangable for the most part, and the shit u get for aquariums works just as good

 

[Kerovan]

thanks for the reply but, this thing has a carbon filter. is size of the filter that important? my room is like 3x6 feet ??

It's not just the size of the filter is important. Also important is that ALL air goes thru a carbon filter before being exhausted out of the grow room. All that filter does is recirculate air in the room. No matter how big a filter is, it will never remove odors that way.

 

[Jefferstone]

Uhh....no. You can have a carbon filter within the room. It will filter exactly like one out of the room except the cleaned, odor free air just gets dumped back into the room, not outside. A carbon filter's action upon the air filtered through it isn't affected by it's location. It may not be the most effective way of doing it, but it would work.

That said, I don't think you want to go with a unit like that. Go to the DIY section and look there. You can easily build a carbon filter that works amazingly well for under $50. Purple Rhino has an excellent step by step tutorial.

Another issue, and I can't remember where I read this so don't trust me on this, but too much ozone in your grow room is detrimental to plant growth.

 

[Kerovan]

Uhh....no. You can have a carbon filter within the room. It will filter exactly like one out of the room except the cleaned, odor free air just gets dumped back into the room, not outside. A carbon filter's action upon the air filtered through it isn't affected by it's location. It may not be the most effective way of doing it, but it would work.

That said, I don't think you want to go with a unit like that. Go to the DIY section and look there. You can easily build a carbon filter that works amazingly well for under $50.

Another issue, and I can't remember where I read this so don't trust me on this, but too much ozone in your grow room is detrimental to plant growth.

it won't work. The odor is coming out of the plants constantly. The filter is only filtering a small portion of air at a time and then putting the air back into the room and mixing it with the odor. It is impossible to remove the odor that way.

 

[KuLong]

That is an air purifier. It is not meant for odor control.

If you live in a dusty house and you have a hard time breathing because of it, this is what you would buy.

 

[ElectricPineapple]

kerovan, you are wrong, sorry.

Having a carbon filter in your room, will keep the odor in your room in check, as long as you have a fan on the filter with enough CFM. a 465 CFM has an exchange rate in a 10x10 room, of just about a minute or two. that means all of the air in that room will flow through the filter and out again, in just a couple of minutes, eliminating most of the odor. this is what growers in sealed rooms do, since they dont have an exhaust, and use CO2. im sorry but you are wrong. and i dont know how powerful of a filter that is, or its exchange rate, but it probably wont eliminate all of the odors, but cut them down some. if you want all or most of your odors eliminates, you will have to drop the buck and either buy a carbon filter, or make one.

 

[Jefferstone]

What he said...

 

[Kerovan]

sorry, but I disagree. You can reduce the smell like that, but you can never eliminate it with a circulating filter like that. odor is constantly being released into the air. And even though the volume of air moving thru the filter is equal to what the room is, it's not moving ALL the air thru the filter that fast. Some of the air will go thru 20 times in a minute, some won't go thru at all since it's all mixed up.

 

[ElectricPineapple]

but you are forgetting air circulation inside the room. to have a good setup, you want there to be constant air circulation inside the room, and or semi-constant. also, i referred to a sealed room that it works best for. additionally, you can not eliminate all of the smell regardless of what you do. you can only control it and minimize to as much as possible. which carbon filters do a great job of. i understand what you are getting at, cleaning the exhaust air, but the arrogant banter about a standalone carbon filter and fan, in a room exchanging air not working at all, well is just DUMB.

 

[Jefferstone]

You are right that the smell keeps on coming as you grow, but that has nothing to do with the filter. If the filter is in the room the smell is regenerated constantly. If you have a filter outside the room the smell is regenerated constantly. Heck, if you don't have a filter the smell is regenerated constantly. The only thing changing here is the location of the filter. The same quantity of air will still pass through it. The air will still be filtered. Location of the filter is irrelevant.

Another way of looking at it, why does it matter where the fresh filtered air is going to or coming from? If you are pulling air from the closet and dumping it outside, you are creating a slight vacuum in the room that will pull in fresh air from outside. That air will now need to be filtered. If you have the filter in the room it just dumps the same amount of cleaned air back into the tent that it would otherwise be pulling in from outside. No difference.

Still, that unit won't do enough.

 

[Kerovan]

You are right that the smell keeps on coming as you grow, but that has nothing to do with the filter. If the filter is in the room the smell is regenerated constantly. If you have a filter outside the room the smell is regenerated constantly. Heck, if you don't have a filter the smell is regenerated constantly. The only thing changing here is the location of the filter. The same quantity of air will still pass through it. The air will still be filtered. Location of the filter is irrelevant.

Not correct. A filter in the room recirculating the air will never get the smell out, it never filters 100% of the air that way. There will constantly be odor in there which can leak out thu any crack it can find. If you have a traditional carbon filter that is filtering all air as it's exhausted from the room with negative pressure, the only air leaving the room will be filtered and be odor free. All cracks that would have normally leaked air will instead be drawing air in, effectively keeping any odor from leaking out. Exhaust filters set up that will keep all odor in the grow room, outside of the room will be fresh and odor free.

 

[ElectricPineapple]

SEALED room... you are neglecting the fact that i said it works best in a SEALED room. and yes it will. sorry to burst your bubble

 

[Kerovan]

SEALED room... you are neglecting the fact that i said it works best in a SEALED room. and yes it will. sorry to burst your bubble

I highly doubt we are talking about a SEALED room here since the OP is wanting to go CHEAP. A sealed room is thousands and thousands of dollars to set up effectively. What we are talking about here is most likely a small home operation without a hermetically sealed environment. Besides, I wasn't replying to your comment, I was replying to the comment that said it doesn't matter how a filter is setup.

 

[ElectricPineapple]

oh im sorry about that confusion. i know we arent talking about the OP in his setup being sealed, but the doesnt mean this filter wont help the problem. is it the ideal way to control the smell? definitely not. but im assuming he is on a budget, and cant afford a carbon filter setup now. i did tell him though that there are plenty of DIY carbon filters, and they would be comparatively priced to the filter he is looking at.

EP

 

[Jefferstone]

Sorry, but I stand by everything I said. I agree that a negative pressure in the tent is desireable. I have my tent set up that way. And while I agree with that part of your post, the rest just doesn't hold water.

So why won't a fan in an enclosed room recirculate 100% of the air? Is there a reason why a 400CFM fan in a room won't pull 400cfm through the filter?

Of course there isn't.

An appropriately sized fan going into an appropriately sized carbon filter is going to minimize the smell wherever it exhausts.

I guess we'll just have to disagree.

Regardless, that fan in the OP isn't going to get it done.

 

[cornelivs]

thank you all, for advices I'll buy a carbon filter.

 

[That Canadian]

Dude if you want the easiest best thing don't listen to people like KEROVAN who have not used these things!!

My boy bought me 2 of these just bc opening bags of kush in my room was stinking my house up eryday, now I have plants in flower and there is no fucking smell when this thing is on even medium speed. CHECK IT OUT EVERYONE, totally worth the money, hassle free!

http://www.hunterair.com/product/0-49694-30090-4.html

bought it from sears.

PS - when on low, removes mad odour and is pretty much silent