The Art of The Auto

[John Mondello]

LOL but i understand this as well. Had a few nights here where i was dry *gasp* and sleep didnt go as normal. I too am an insomniac and i can tell when my levels drop. My brain just will not shut off. I can lay there all i want and if no ganja no sleepy.

I know what yo all mean too... cant sleep without my shit anymore... although BH's comment about the melatonin... well, my parents used that for a whle and said it worked for them... but I like the added pain releif and and I like to fall asleep to something funny on tv... which a buzz always helps!

 

[mossys]

On the non auto Psirens I have found.......

Psiren F1's - Blue Cheese Dominant
Psiren F2's - Cheese Dominant
Psiren F3's - look to be Blueberry Dominant

Some of the F2's are more cheesy than the original cheese!!

Brilliant Bro....



I LOVE this one.

You Have to be excited..it looks as if the cross has really opened up the genetic pool..
leaves and all..
(6's AND 8's...hoo..hoo...)
wonder what kind of trait seperation you are gonna get

it will probably give you a little more work for stabilising..
But..
you are gonna have a lot more selections..
so she could be a little dynasty line.

Several distinctly different crosses out of the one set of genetics.

NICE.

I've never played with Cheese..so you will have to point out the dominance points as we go.

 

[John Mondello]

hey mossey... in regards to light dep... how soon is early? currently at 38 days

J

ps - I love how your avatar is constantly snickering... lol

 

[FullDuplex]

its the weekend had a great morning and decided to snap a few before feed.

You can see that the big girl on the right is just now starting to loose her first set.
Thing is she is on 1 1/2 dose of TB and Seaweed kelp. She's still hungry so i bumped todays feeding to 1 3/4 and i got an almost instant leaf lift. By the time the run off cleared the pots her top leaves were perked right up.


Left to right BB, ICU, ICU

Big girl

 

[ENCOUNTERZERO]

looking damn good man always good when there happy

 

[John Mondello]

hungry lil bitch huh?

 

[nealcook420]

I am kind of in a frenzy to get over to my other house where my plants are...
My dad went over to water them this morning and apparently nobody watered them yesterday because my big ALF#3 has been dry for 2 days now.
I'm going to have to set up an automated drip watering/feeding system if I can bring her back.
The leaves are drooping and discoloring but it hasn't effected the buds yet so maybe I'll give her a gallon and watch her spring back...

 

[FullDuplex]

looking damn good man always good when there happy

Thank you sir

I am kind of in a frenzy to get over to my other house where my plants are...
My dad went over to water them this morning and apparently nobody watered them yesterday because my big ALF#3 has been dry for 2 days now.
I'm going to have to set up an automated drip watering/feeding system if I can bring her back.
The leaves are drooping and discoloring but it hasn't effected the buds yet so maybe I'll give her a gallon and watch her spring back...

She should be fine neal, i would be really shocked if it does any real damage.
I would deff get over there and water but these things have hearts like lions
i bet she springs back in a day. those Alfies are tough

Karma sent for you my friend.

 

[ENCOUNTERZERO]

I found a vid on youtube you all might like to see http://www.youtube.com/user/TheDudegrows#p/u/13/xQ8BWfb_DQg i priced some of the products the guy showed in other vids about that and for around $30 for a 4oz jar it looks like it would really give the plants a booster shot if no ones using it now

 

[John Mondello]

Yup, we're already on the micro fungi... Fox Farm Root Drench (loaded with colony forming units)

 

[John Mondello]

Thank you sir



She should be fine neal, i would be really shocked if it does any real damage.
I would deff get over there and water but these things have hearts like lions
i bet she springs back in a day. those Alfies are tough

Karma sent for you my friend.

I'd agree... plus a little extra stress may induce more thc production ! lol
good karma doubled

 

[mossys]

nc...add 1 drop of washing up liquid to a gallon of water..
shake it so it is well distributed..and bubbly..
then water her with it.
It re-hydrates the compo when you have over dried it.

good karma doubled

karma trebled.....

 

[John Mondello]

nc...add 1 drop of washing up liquid to a gallon of water..
shake it so it is well distributed..and bubbly..
then water her with it.
It re-hydrates the compo when you have over dried it.

"washing up liquid"... you mean soap?

 

[mossys]

JM...give it a try m8...it looks as if the Bud is set to me.

Also -2C is the lowest the girls have been out in.
But..if you are tempted..hold the ferts..
they cannot cope with it when the transpiration is so low..so they will mold.

IOU a mail m8..haven't caught up yet...

 

[mossys]

"washing up liquid"... you mean soap?

IF that is what they call it in the US..yes...

Fairy Liquid..?

It is a wetting agent...holds the water in the soil longer.

I would have recommended throwing some ice-cubes on..it acts like a Slow/Drip watering..
But..
with the small pot there would probably be contact with the main-stem..so it could cause damage.

 

[John Mondello]

IF that is what they call it in the US..yes...

Fairy Liquid..?

It is a wetting agent...holds the water in the soil longer.

I would have recommended throwing some ice-cubes on..it acts like a Slow/Drip watering..
But..
with the small pot there would probably be contact with the main-stem..so it could cause damage.

Well I like both your techniques... very smart... not familar with "Fary liquid"... I sometimes use Dawn... (though I hate using it) to help mix my NEEM oil into my bacpack sprayer for the farm. usually about 1stp to 3 gallons to help the neem distribute evely in the water.

No rush on the mail M8... I dropped the fogger for the rest of this round to keep transpiration up, humidity down, and also because its having issues again...lol guess thats my sign to put that project on hold for a bit. Temps r always running in the 87-92 degree range and humidity isn't over 70% now and typically drops to 50% or less every 30 -45 minutes during exhaust cycle. I have that second set of Autos coming up (currently 16 days) thinking about letting them start to flower and then Light Dep and pollen collect from them , refridge that in a bag, and do controlled pllination on the following big round of 21 after this round. Thoughts?

J

 

[mossys]

my Sagamatha Star Ryder still hasn't started to flower yet and it's on day 32. I don't think it's going to flower unless I make it do so.

Damn Hitman..bad news..what have you decided to do....?

Well I like both your techniques... very smart... not familar with "Fary liquid"... I sometimes use Dawn... (though I hate using it) to help mix my NEEM oil into my bacpack sprayer for the farm. usually about 1stp to 3 gallons to help the neem distribute evely in the water

That will be the same JM..it not only distributes your neem..it makes it Stick to the plant..wetting agent

Also handy for killing Leaf & Soil Pests on it's own right with water.

Ice cube waterings are also good for lowering ambient temps in hot grow rooms.

No rush on the mail M8...

I'm on snail mail m8.
The cold weather hammers me..makes everything slow up..and the pain speed up
it's like being a sodding lizard..I can only play out in the sun.

 

[Bighill]

Yeah they call it dish soap up here.

JM: I forgot to reply about yer truck So then a tacoma? Seemed small for a tundra. Anyhoo, the resale on those is crazy eh?!. I was looking at toyota when i needed a truck. I couldn't belive almost 10 year old tacomas going for $10K to high 8's.. Crazy resale.
I ended up with a chev express. Suited my needs better. But i sure like the looks of the toyotas. They were my 1st choice until dodge came out with the new version of the ram. Honestly if toyota brought the tundra out in a diesle i would have serious issues choosing one or the other.


FD: WOOT! ICU pics. Starting to flower very nicely.
I decided to join the icu party. Dropped 15 of em. Also decided to test out those ALF's.. Neals gigantor makes me drool. Going to have a full box soon here.


Mossy: I could see the psirens beeing a nice gene pool also. It is almost more interesting using a poly hybrid to breeed with. If your into pheno selection that is. I have been doing ALOT or reading on cheese since dargo started work on it. Some breeders bred for the cheese taste while others went down the skunky path. Sannie has some interesting crosses of cheese.

While i was over at their site. Found they have a G13 x G13Hp. Been doing reasurch into where they got their G cutting. From what i have been able to gather a true G cutting is as rare as dimonds. So people claiming to have a real cutting are more than likely growing a X of it. So who has the pure'est is essential. imo.
I have been gathering some photos of G13 X's taking the ones that show similar traits. To try to be able to help find the heavy G phenos when the time comes. When i get everything together i'll post a big shpeal about it. The good news is the G13HP is a verifyed G13 cross. Shanti worked with sensi at a time. Shanti and Neville are the only ones who have "HAD" a verifyd legit G cutting. Just wish i could still get their G13Skunk.. It is suposed to show the best G phenos from any of the X's.

There is a NICE NICE G13 haze grow on The farm right now. I got some of his pics too. Super heavy indy looking gals.. Pinks in there too

Gettig long winded. Time to light one.
Edit: How do i manage to get the top of so many new pages? lol
BH.

 

[John Mondello]

That will be the same JM..it not only distributes your neem..it makes it Stick to the plant..wetting agent

Also handy for killing Leaf & Soil Pests on it's own right with water.

Ice cube waterings are also good for lowering ambient temps in hot grow rooms.



No rush on the mail M8...


I'm on snail mail m8.
The cold weather hammers me..makes everything slow up..and the pain speed up
it's like being a sodding lizard..I can only play out in the sun.

The Cold weather hammers me too dude... worked for a surveyor/engineer for 5 years before this and every winter was a struggle just to survive, let alone be efficient at work. I thank god every day thats over!

Im also aware of the pest killer ability (from what i understand due to ph and a certain amount of "stickiness") of soap as well as its "water adhereing" properties... never thought to use it to help rehydrate tho! I like the ice cube trick too.. simple, but effective... wish we had thought of that back in the day when we had wicked temp issues in the old operation.


BH- you get the top cua you da man! lol
thanks for shairng all the G13 info... I keep seeing that Nevill'es name pop up.... interesting background on the Silver haze line with that too....

Close sources say Arjan bred the SSH (nl x haze x skunk )in the Sensi Seed breeding rooms (Cannabis Castle) with royally bred Sensi strains. It's basically the same exact thing as Jack Herer, but with one difference. Arjan had some reputed misunderstandings with Sensi Seeds, and took the strain with him, accidentally leaving behind his notes (woops!).
The key difference is that Neville donated his special pure isolated "Haze" strain to the SuperSilverHaze which made it slightly better than Sensi's version. Neville went on to screw Arjan in much the same way Arjan screwed over Sensi. -Tobes

I bought Super Silver Haze cannabis seeds cannabis seeds in Amsterdam directly from Greenhouse. Out of everything available in Amsterdam (including all kinds of hash), I smoked Super Silver Haze cannabis seeds about 40% of he time because it was the nicest tasting smoke in Amsterdam. Most Amsterdam smoke has little taste in my opinion. But the Super Silver Haze cannabis seeds from Greenhouse had a spicy taste, that everyone I shared it with commented on.

J

 

[mossys]

FD: WOOT! ICU pics. Starting to flower very nicely.
I decided to join the icu party. Dropped 15 of em. Also decided to test out those ALF's.. Neals gigantor makes me drool. Going to have a full box soon here.

nc..see what you have started...everyone wants an Amazonian Auto...

guess what I have on the air-pot test..ALF#3..

Pure coincidence I have 2 different ALF#3 hybs..so I wanted to do an along-side grow and reproduce the Best as hyb.

Does anybody have Fairy Lights...can't remember if only shroomy has them or not.

Just thinking as well..I'm sure I have some ICU#1 kicking about..
I Think they were DC/ALF f2 x WR f9...
come spring we will try some of those out too.

I could see the psirens beeing a nice gene pool also. It is almost more interesting using a poly hybrid to breeed with

Most people don't even think that when they cross an auto they are actually crossing 4 plants..
the 3 in the Original LR #1...
AND the parental cross.

I think I worked it out in lowrdrs Purple Sky that he had about 17 crosses in at the face..
IF you count the Original LR proportion in too...
saves worrying about a bottle neck.........................

I have been doing ALOT or reading on cheese since dargo started work on it. Some breeders bred for the cheese taste while others went down the skunky path

I find that a Taste is the best foreplay for intensive homework.....
Kinda spurs you on....

As I say never tried it..but I know it has a devoted following..and if they put phenos out like dargos..
they are ALL good.
That is a Nicely tuned genetic.

I have been gathering some photos of G13 X's taking the ones that show similar traits.

Good..I had the first Whore break soil today.

Can you remember the photo of the girl with the Velcro trics I had @ IC...
That is what I want to chase out of her.
(I lost most my photos when I left..or I would show you..)