Sugar in Soil

Titania

Titania

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Has any1 used sugar on their soil? It creates a bacteria population explosion which you can see on the top soil as a 'fur'. It's useful for a number of reasons: Firstly, if you have to much nitrogen in your soil (fert burn), the bacteria consume it at a much faster rate if you give them sugar. Secondly, the network of fine 'fur' that spreads throughout the soil works in harmony with the roots helping them absorb nutrients:hump:. Any thoughts greatly appreciated.:blsmoke:

:peace:
 
GrowItGreen

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I read some where that sugar in soil blocks water absorption....I'll see if I can find the source...but I never tried it.
 
frostythesnowthug

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Yeah sugar water will work to a point,but in the same thread the topic of spraying sugar onto bud was discussed as a method sometimes used by unscrupulous ppl to pass off shit weed as good..And to illegitematly increase bud weight..
If you wanna provide your plant with vital, usable sugars, feed the micro-herd and help increase bud size, with out creating 'fur' or as i call it MOLD...
use MOLASSES....
DONT BE A CHEAP ASS...unsulphured molasses is cheap as hell, does the job properly, and doesnt promote stuff like bud rot..

Also i am V stoned,but if i remember correctly, Molasses doesnt actually contain a whole lot of sugar, but is useable by plants as it contains essential carbohydrates that are easily broken down for use by the plants..also can be a good source of K(potassium)

just my .2
 
Titania

Titania

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frostythesnowthug said:
Yeah sugar water will work to a point,but in the same thread the topic of spraying sugar onto bud was discussed as a method sometimes used by unscrupulous ppl to pass off shit weed as good..And to illegitematly increase bud weight..
If you wanna provide your plant with vital, usable sugars, feed the micro-herd and help increase bud size, with out creating 'fur' or as i call it MOLD...
use MOLASSES....
DONT BE A CHEAP ASS...unsulphured molasses is cheap as hell, does the job properly, and doesnt promote stuff like bud rot..

Also i am V stoned,but if i remember correctly, Molasses doesnt actually contain a whole lot of sugar, but is useable by plants as it contains essential carbohydrates that are easily broken down for use by the plants..also can be a good source of K(potassium)

just my .2
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Yeah thanks for the reply, My mom used to put this on her plants (NOT marijuana!:joint:) and they grew ferociously:hump:. I've done my research on using molasses, your right I shouldn't be a cheap ass, I'll invest in some. The 'fur' I was referring to is a large bacterial/fungal colony, you may not see it but it is under the soil, much like that which is found in the wild. It is generally lacking in indoor grows because of the lack of carbs for the bacteria/fungus to use, which in the wild they would get from rotting leaves ect. These micro-organism's are by no means dangerous they are friendly bacteria and work with the plant. I have to say though Frosty if you had payed attention in biology you would know that plants can't take up carbohydrate eg. glucose, because the molecule is to large to pass through the root membrane. Thanks anyway!:mrgreen::peace:
 
frostythesnowthug

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hence why i said, "but is useable by plants as it contains essential carbohydrates that are easily broken down for use by the plants"


Go steady n have a fun wkend:)
 
Titania

Titania

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frostythesnowthug said:
hence why i said, "but is useable by plants as it contains essential carbohydrates that are easily broken down for use by the plants"


Go steady n have a fun wkend:)
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You can't break down glucose any further it is the simplest form of carbohydrate, :confused: Sorry if I've misunderstood.:blsmoke:
 
frostythesnowthug

frostythesnowthug

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LOL.. do i gotta go into a science lesson here and its my day off n all too!?! J/K :)

In addition to sugars, molasses contains significant amounts of potash, sulfur along with some other micronutrients.
molasses is derived from plants and because the processes that create molasses remove most of the sugars, the majority of the minerals that were in the original sugar beet are still present in molasses. This is a factor because a balanced supply of mineral nutrients is vital for the micro-herds to survive and develop That’s the secret to really successful organic gardening, the micronutrients found in organic substances like molasses and kelp are all from other plant sources and are quickly and easily available to soil and plants.
This is very important for the soil “micro-herd” who depend on tiny amounts of trace minerals to work as catalysts to make the enzymes that create the biochemical transformation we are aiming for.
it’s the micro-herd that break down organic fertilizers and “feed” it to the plants.

Molasses combined with the micro
herd also helps act as a chelating agent...Ie its a substance that can convert naturally occuring chemicals into a source thats easily and readily available to our plants and soil microbes.
Chelated mineral sources are very easy for the plant to absorb and maintain a good level of stability in the soil..Chelates are also known to unlock the potential of Ferts in soil.

there's an old saying “Feed the soil not the plant.”

I was just saying that regular sugar would suck in comparison,as it is not as nutritious as molasses, as it lacks a big proportion of the supplemental micronutrients...but it would work..Molasses is V cheap, and vastly superior over plain sugar.

The micro herd are sorta responsible for converting a single nutrient ion held in the center of the larger molecule,thus making it available to the root system..
Or atleast from what i remember...Been outta school for a long long time... :)
Hell if i'm wrong, thats cool, i like learning stuff...
Just my .2

Phew, i think i'd better roll me a smoke, that was way too much like doin my homework for school for my liking..
Man i dont envy kids one bit..

Peace. Out. ~~~~[[[__________()
 
Titania

Titania

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frostythesnowthug said:
LOL.. do i gotta go into a science lesson here and its my day off n all too!?! J/K :)

In addition to sugars, molasses contains significant amounts of potash, sulfur along with some other micronutrients.
molasses is derived from plants and because the processes that create molasses remove most of the sugars, the majority of the minerals that were in the original sugar beet are still present in molasses. This is a factor because a balanced supply of mineral nutrients is vital for the micro-herds to survive and develop That’s the secret to really successful organic gardening, the micronutrients found in organic substances like molasses and kelp are all from other plant sources and are quickly and easily available to soil and plants.
This is very important for the soil “micro-herd” who depend on tiny amounts of trace minerals to work as catalysts to make the enzymes that create the biochemical transformation we are aiming for.
it’s the micro-herd that break down organic fertilizers and “feed” it to the plants.

Molasses combined with the micro
herd also helps act as a chelating agent...Ie its a substance that can convert naturally occuring chemicals into a source thats easily and readily available to our plants and soil microbes.
Chelated mineral sources are very easy for the plant to absorb and maintain a good level of stability in the soil..Chelates are also known to unlock the potential of Ferts in soil.

there's an old saying “Feed the soil not the plant.”

I was just saying that regular sugar would suck in comparison,as it is not as nutritious as molasses, as it lacks a big proportion of the supplemental micronutrients...but it would work..Molasses is V cheap, and vastly superior over plain sugar.

The micro herd are sorta responsible for converting a single nutrient ion held in the center of the larger molecule,thus making it available to the root system..
Or atleast from what i remember...Been outta school for a long long time... :)
Hell if i'm wrong, thats cool, i like learning stuff...
Just my .2

Phew, i think i'd better roll me a smoke, that was way too much like doin my homework for school for my liking..
Man i dont envy kids one bit..

Peace. Out. ~~~~[[[__________()
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Cheers Frosty!:mrgreen: Enjoyed reading that, I like it when people go in-depth on subjects. I read what seemed like a book on just this subject a few weeks ago, so I'm down with all this info:blsmoke:. I misread you earlier. I thought you were one of those people who think that plants can absorb glucose. You obviously know what your talking about, my bad:-|. I was just trying to highlight how important the symbiotic relationship between plant and micro-herd is. As I remember correctly, Plants use 2 ways to get nutrients active transport (which requires energy), and diffusion (which works on a concentration gradient). But there is also this 3rd way, in which the micro-organism's 'feed' the plant useful nutrients, and the plant in return gives them energy. This obviously doesn't happen in hydro grows, which work on a concentration gradient, and they grow the fastest. So does any1 know the 'real' benefits of encouraging micro-organism's? :peace: Now I need 1 of these:joint::mrgreen:
 
frostythesnowthug

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just did a google n the subject of the benefits of microbial enriched/activated soil and there's a bunch of good info on the scientific aspect of the biology and physiology of plant and organism cohabitation
 
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