Warning! Urine is not a substitue for ferilizer!
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applepoop1984
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no dont use that, lawn pellets are for lawn, think about it grass has all that dirt to drain into so it wont over feed the grass ever.but in potted plants it will make it taste bad and possibly be too much for them t handle, was there an npk rating? grassc lippings woudl eb better for your plants just dry them out put them in a pantyhose tie the end set them in a bucket of water, stir the mixture as ,uch as u can ad a tsp of hydrogen peroxide to get oxygen in the water(but not alot mind you, peroxide that is, u want alot of 02 in ur soil water etc) let it sit but here the important part dont let it get stagnant for too long. people have gotten really good at this theyl add an air pump and an airstone so it puts 02 bubbles in the water further activating the microbes to break down the palnt matter into readily available nitrogen. after 3 days it shoudl eb ready. remember try to stir every four hours for 10 minutes if u can or just by a small 10 $ air pump and 2$ airstone and enjoy. besides grass u can use leaves too anythign green will have nitrogen in it
420God
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Your ignorance is getting annoying.
~~~> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/08/AR2007100801028.html
~~~> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urine
~~~>http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/DyeHard/food-crop-fertilizer-features-gulp-human-urine/story?id=8517396
~~~> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/10/071008093608.htm
http://www.mndaily.com/2007/10/16/ne...ood-fertilizer
~~~> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/08/AR2007100801028.html
~~~> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urine
~~~>http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/DyeHard/food-crop-fertilizer-features-gulp-human-urine/story?id=8517396
~~~> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/10/071008093608.htm
http://www.mndaily.com/2007/10/16/ne...ood-fertilizer
lvl i k e y
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Filling your quote with typo?? A typo is a keyboard error nobody is trying to change what you were trying to say. What we are saying is that urnine is probably just not the best thing to use when trying to add nitrogen to your plant.
vh13
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Okay, I don't know why you're accusing me of abdicating urine as a superior food source. You're mis-representing my words and yes, this is feeling like a level of harassment worthy of reporting to the mods.
I'm glad you feel this forum is better off with people like you, and not people like me. You can keep it.
I'm glad you feel this forum is better off with people like you, and not people like me. You can keep it.
applepoop1984
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explain my ignorance. "It is a resource, not a pollutant, if correctly managed," meaning it needs to be refined. guess what mr ganja, yeah i called u by ur forum title, inorganic ferts are already made from animal urine. im not disputing u cant grow with it. look at ur box of miracle grow on the bag it says nitrogen from UREA. it is PROCESSED URINE not STRAIGHT PISSS. if u piss on your plants YOU WILL BURN THEM. i guess they didnt have any of that in ur articles did it. sorry for comign off a smart ass but when u say im tired of your ignorance it implies i dont understand the philosophy behind urine. are grass clippings bad for the environment? i have all your pros and cons and the cons out weigh the pros here. the ferts they say are polluting are based on animal urine. so their goes ur environment argument. human urine was used for the studies but it wasnt dumping urine like these guys are talking about. start a grow dump urine on ur plants in place of urea based ferts and see how quickly ur plants burn.
t0rn
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Have you read the back of some of the organic nutes lately? I wouldn't run around touting that someone using human urine in their plants is bad. Look at some labels sometime, you don't see people ignorantly saying "dude, you're totally smoking bat shit." Soil nutes include bat shit, bird shit, bones, blood, kelp, and you're complaining that urea from a human is bad or nasty.
Saying someone is smoking pee is also an ignorant statement. The plant cannot intake ammonia, it can intake what ammonia breaks down into, nitrates and nitrites. Ammonia doesn't burn your plants unless you use an excess of it. Peeing on your plants is bad because it is too concentrated.
Say we took your philosophy that "people are smoking pee," we would therefore be able to say that we could feed our plant strawberries all day and make it taste like strawberries. In your case, I'd be more worried about smoking bat shit, bird shit, worm shit, or whatever else you think the plant absorbs.
Saying someone is smoking pee is also an ignorant statement. The plant cannot intake ammonia, it can intake what ammonia breaks down into, nitrates and nitrites. Ammonia doesn't burn your plants unless you use an excess of it. Peeing on your plants is bad because it is too concentrated.
Say we took your philosophy that "people are smoking pee," we would therefore be able to say that we could feed our plant strawberries all day and make it taste like strawberries. In your case, I'd be more worried about smoking bat shit, bird shit, worm shit, or whatever else you think the plant absorbs.
t0rn
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Nobody advocated straight piss on their plants, EVERYONE has said that will burn as it is too concentrated. In a dilution, urea is a decent source of nitrogen.
applepoop1984
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bone meal blood meal guano and worm castings are all fineHave you read the back of some of the organic nutes lately? I wouldn't run around touting that someone using human urine in their plants is bad. Look at some labels sometime, you don't see people ignorantly saying "dude, you're totally smoking bat shit." Soil nutes include bat shit, bird shit, bones, blood, kelp, and you're complaining that urea from a human is bad or nasty.
Saying someone is smoking pee is also an ignorant statement. The plant cannot intake ammonia, it can intake what ammonia breaks down into, nitrates and nitrites. Ammonia doesn't burn your plants unless you use an excess of it. Peeing on your plants is bad because it is too concentrated.
Say we took your philosophy that "people are smoking pee," we would therefore be able to say that we could feed our plant strawberries all day and make it taste like strawberries. In your case, I'd be more worried about smoking bat shit, bird shit, worm shit, or whatever else you think the plant absorbs.
people who use bat guano report an earthy taste( ed rosenthals organic book iv had for 10 years) i knwo all of which u speak, im talkign of human urine and the polutants that come with it. iv already stated im aware of animal urea which is derived from urine is part of inorganic ferts, its good to know that all the things u stated are organic ferts huamn urine fert woudl eb inorganic just like cow urea is. im unnopossed to guano or manure. human feces and urine is fucking nasty though and there are things from urine that NEED be filtered out
applepoop1984
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i started this thread because i read someone had bottled pis for 3 days because someone said he used ti on his plants. his plants died
urea is a source of nitrogen yes, but not organic, guano shitty as it may sound, is organic
applepoop1984
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iv already stated urea is a source of nitrogen. 3 posts before yours do u read the entire thread or just hunt n peck?
420God
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Are you seriously trying to say urine is not organic?i started this thread because i read someone had bottled pis for 3 days because someone said he used ti on his plants. his plants died
Urine has to be used within 24hrs or it starts to break down and at this time is when ammonia builds.
t0rn
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So you make a thread to say "NEVER USE URINE, YOU'RE SMOKING PEE" because some noob told another noob to put 3 day old undiluted urine in his plant? If some guy had a bottle of nutes lying around and I said "hey, dump those nutes in your plant, they're nutes" he would burn his plant as well. I would then make a thread to say Botanicare is awful!?i started this thread because i read someone had bottled pis for 3 days because someone said he used ti on his plants. his plants died
vh13
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Exactly!
Maybe it's just me, but I think it's better to teach newbies how to be critical thinkers, so they don't make dumb mistakes, rather then make more absolute statements.
applepoop1984
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my thread is called "warning URINE is NOT a SUBSTITUE for ferilizer" typos aside if u woudl read my posts ud have ur questions answered already(u tell me to read the labels 4 posts after i had posted what was written on a miracle gro label lol) do u even realize hwo readliy available human urine is to a plant? plant food isnt made that way so it WONT burn them. organics need to be broken down by pathogens first thast why they dotn burn. urine will burn them worse than anything thats why i posted this thread. all ur doing is harassing this thread because u have an ego my only goal is to help some poor guy from burning his/her plants
Leothwyn
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I don't piss on my plants, but I have to say that it seems sort of ridiculous to say that your buds will smell like piss if you do. Unless you happen to be talking about pissing right onto the buds, which I don't think is the case. How is that my buds don't taste like worm poop tea, or seaweed, or anything else that I feed to them? The whole concept seems about as silly as... well, criticizing 'geniuses with a 12 grade vocabulary', when your own posts wouldn't even pass a 5th grade vocabulary test.
applepoop1984
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420 god urine is organic yes, FERTILIZER made FROM URINE is not
t0rn
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Have fun feeding kelp, blood, bone, bird shit, bat shit, worm shit, animal urine to your plant as well, we all do. What's the point, you grow your plant in DIRT, just becuase the dirt is "dirty" doesn't mean you're smoking everything that's in the media. You're only in-taking the 16 elements that a plant can intake. You throw a fish under your plant in the outdoors and you're not smoking fish.. I don't know why this is so hard for people to understand.
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